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From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: MONORAIL society WEBSITE homepage

Date: 22 Dec 1998 18:38:17 -0500


I have seen some old photographs (20 years back ) of selected Tokyo
lines
with OHE
Milan also seems to have its red line relying on OHE



>Jishnu,
>
>Add two more. Red Line in Cleveland, OH and Skokie Swift in
>Chicago, IL, unless they were already added earlier.
>
>Prakash
>
>Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>> Are there any metros in the world which use a OHE rather than 3rd
>> rail ?
>
>The Rome Metro comes to mind. Also the Paris RER lines use OHE. The RER
>lines are the Express semi-suburban underground system in Paris. I seem
>to recall that Madrid also has OHE using Metro.
>
>--
>Jishnu Mukerji
>
>
>

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: MONORAIL society WEBSITE homepage

Date: 22 Dec 1998 19:22:10 -0500


Rajan Mathew wrote:
>
> I have seen some old photographs (20 years back ) of selected Tokyo
lines
> with OHE
> Milan also seems to have its red line relying on OHE
>
> >Jishnu,
> >
> >Add two more. Red Line in Cleveland, OH and Skokie Swift in
> >Chicago, IL, unless they were already added earlier.
> >
> >Prakash
> >
> >Apurva Bahadur wrote:
> >> Are there any metros in the world which use a OHE rather than 3rd
> >> rail ?
> >
> >The Rome Metro comes to mind. Also the Paris RER lines use OHE. The
RER
> >lines are the Express semi-suburban underground system in Paris. I
seem
> >to recall that Madrid also has OHE using Metro.
> >
> >--
> >Jishnu Mukerji
> >
> >
> >

In San Francisco the subway runs under Market St and Twin Peaks (a
hill).
Each of the various lines branch off, and eventually comes up above
ground.
For example, the K Ingleside runs as subway for about 8km, then comes up
and runs as a surface tram for about 20km.
So the "trams" and the "metro" are one and the same.
All the equipment is OHE.

Annie

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Bye

Date: 22 Dec 1998 19:26:53 -0500



Hi Gang,

I am proceeding on long leave but before that I want to wish you all

HAPPY HOLIDAYS, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEWYEAR.

Viraf.

PS: I'll be missing all your mails.

==========================
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C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrej.email
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From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Re: What is this loco

Date: 22 Dec 1998 23:20:59 -0500



> The BHEL website shows off a 2600 HP dual cab loco. Any details of
this
> power ? Why would anyone want this modified WDM 2, when so many DLW
> units are available ?

For some export order ? Or is it just a one-off prototype ?
In any case, it should be remembered that the use of a
single-cabbed hood design under IR conditions is a
compromise on visibility anyway.

--
Jayant S : ID Studio : Tata Technologies India Limited
Telco Premises : Pimpri : PUNE : 411 018 : INDIA
TEL 91(20)702534 : FAX 91(20)773191
--

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: What is this loco

Date: 23 Dec 1998 00:17:16 -0500


Gang !

The BHEL website shows off a 2600 HP dual cab loco. Any details of this
power ? Why would anyone want this modified WDM 2, when so many DLW
units are available ?
Check out :
<A HREF="http://www.bhelis.com/tnsp01.htm">http://www.bhelis.com/tnsp01.htm</A>

Apurva

From: Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath <>

Subject: Re: [Indian%20Railways%20Enquiry]

Date: 23 Dec 1998 02:58:27 -0500


Dear Shakoor,
If you have official standing with AAR (which your E-mail address
seems to indicate?), you should be able to make a direct approach to
Railway
Board in Delhi for a copy of the Bridge Code; there is (or was ) a
Standing
Technical Committee (founded in the 1920s) and their reports might also
be
of interest.
The Kitab Mahal in Delhi (and other places) used to sell such
manuals, and it might be worth your while to enquire of them. (They're
the
Indian Government book store).
I presume you are located in the USA: enquiry of the Indian
Embassy
or Consular Office in your city may also yield results. They used to
maintain a small technical unit at the Indian High Comission in London,
and
they wre often helpful. There may be someone similar in USA.
I hope all that helps!
Season's greetings
Ken Walker


-----Original Message-----
From: Shakoor_Uppal@aar.email <Shakoor_Uppal@aar.email
To: Irfca@cs.email <Irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, 23 December 1998 1:51
Subject: Re: [Indian%20Railways%20Enquiry]


>
>
>Could you kindly assist? Thanks!
>---------------------- Forwarded by Shakoor Uppal/TTC/AAR on 22/12/98
08:34
>AM ---------------------------
>
>
>Vivek Prakash <railmail@netscape.email on 16/12/98 07:25:21 PM
>
>To: Shakoor Uppal/TTC/AAR
>cc:
>
>Subject: Re: [Indian%20Railways%20Enquiry]
>
>
>
>
>Hi Shakoor,
>Unfortunately I have absolutley no idea on how to get this information,
but
>I
>will point you to some folks who might know. The Indian Railways Fan
Club
>Association has a lot of people with a wealth of knowledge on all
aspects
>of
>IR, you can join the mailing list by sending an email to
>irfca-request@cs.email with "Subscribe" in the subject. Then you can
post
>messages to irfca@cs.email and people there are sure to be able to
help
>you
>:-)
>Regards,
>Vivek
>
>Shakoor_Uppal@aar.email wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would like to obtain a copy of the Indian Railways Bridge Design
Code >
>and would gratly appreciate if you could help me in this regard. Thanks
>>
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at
><A HREF="http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail">http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail</A>
>
>
>
>

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re:

Date: 23 Dec 1998 06:53:40 -0500


 
I have just setup a complete site of resources and information on the
Konkan
Railway System. Do pay a visit and let me know the feedback. This
includes
the additional pages mentioned about.
 
URL : <A HREF="http://www.cyberdezigns.com/konkanrail/index.html">http://www.cyberdezigns.com/konkanrail/index.html</A>
<<A HREF="http://www.cyberdezigns.com/konkanrail/index.html>">http://www.cyberdezigns.com/konkanrail/index.html></A>
 
Thanks
Rajan 
 
 
Good stuff.  Eye-catching pages!  Am looking forward to all the
additions.
At present, the images don't show - you may want to reset the path
(remove
MIRROR from the pathname). 
 
The Western Railway TT also quotes fares from Kota to Thiruvananthapuram
for
the TVC Raj,so Kota may be added as a halt in the near future.
 
Vijay

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Sound files of locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 07:09:20 -0500


Gang !

I was just thinking that there is no site on the entire web which offers
loco sounds
in MP 3 format, or is there ? I do not know much about MP3 but what I
have understood
is that a 5 minute sequence in stereo would be around one Mb or so.
Hence I go with a
portable tape recorder and take a footplate ride on the WDM 2 to
Kolhapur and edit the
sections of the prime mover sounds, dynamic brakes, horns, driver's talk
(assistant
spot the signal and shout - "Salpa home 'right' ", driver responds
"right", driver -
"Salpa road 1" - asst - "Road 1, sir".) and then wav to MP3 it and
upload it. How
feasible is this ? What should be the target MP 3 file size and that
should result
from how large a WAV file and how large a sound sequence. The more
experienced gang
please advise.

Apurva

Where did this 'right' term come from ? If there is a common slang on
the entire IR,
this is it. It signifies understood, correct and generally affirmative.
I think it is
a corruption of 'right away' or some term like that which the Britishers
use.

From: prakash <>

Subject: Re: Sound files of locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 08:53:49 -0500




Apurva,

I believe the term "right" here means "correct"or "okay". So the
conversation is:

Asstt: "Salpa home 'right' (i.e. okay)"
Driver: "Right" (okay).

Prakash


Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email on 12/23/98 07:09:20 AM

To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
cc:
Subject: Sound files of locos




Where did this 'right' term come from ? If there is a common slang on
the
entire IR,
this is it. It signifies understood, correct and generally affirmative.
I
think it is
a corruption of 'right away' or some term like that which the Britishers
use.

From: Vivek Prakash <>

Subject: Re: Sound files of locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 08:57:46 -0500


Hi Apurva, I've been toying with MP3 for a little while. A 5 minute mp3
sequence should take about 3 - 4 Mb of space, and the wav file would
take about 35 - 40. I think recording sounds from a footplate trip for
us folk would be fantastic! I'd set the computer alarm to wake me up to
the sound of a wdm2's horns every morning :-)
If you can somehow get the sounds into wav, I can send you some fairly
easy to use software to convert it to MP3, and then you would be able to
put it on a website for us to download. Just one thing to be mindful of
-- the conversion process can take a while (about 30 minutes on a good
pentium) for 5 minutes of audio... and pentiums are advised for people
listening to sounds in MP3 as well.
Regards
Vivek.

Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Gang !
>
> I was just thinking that there is no site on the entire web which
offers loco sounds
> in MP 3 format, or is there ? I do not know much about MP3 but what I
have understood
> is that a 5 minute sequence in stereo would be around one Mb or so.
Hence I go with a
> portable tape recorder and take a footplate ride on the WDM 2 to
Kolhapur and edit the
> sections of the prime mover sounds, dynamic brakes, horns, driver's
talk (assistant
> spot the signal and shout - "Salpa home 'right' ", driver responds
"right", driver -
> "Salpa road 1" - asst - "Road 1, sir".) and then wav to MP3 it and
upload it. How
> feasible is this ? What should be the target MP 3 file size and that
should result
> from how large a WAV file and how large a sound sequence. The more
experienced gang
> please advise.
>
> Apurva
>
> Where did this 'right' term come from ? If there is a common slang on
the entire IR,
> this is it. It signifies understood, correct and generally
affirmative. I think it is
> a corruption of 'right away' or some term like that which the
Britishers use.


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From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Anil's trip to india] - a possible solution

Date: 23 Dec 1998 09:10:27 -0500


> This is my itenary and plan.
> > I arrive into Delhi on Dec 29 and leave from Bombay on Feb 1.
> >
> > I have arranged with my relatives 4 major cities to form
> 'nodes' or bases at.
> > These are Delhi(3 days), Chandighar (2days),
> Banglore(2weeks) and Bombay(1 week). (in this order)
> >
> > I would like to travel by train for the most part, to
> travel during the day so as to see the country and experience
> the country side. I am willing to fly when necessary or when
> it is very inconvenient to take a train.


Here is a possible itinerary:

1. Dep. New Delhi on Jan.1(Friday) by Chandigarh Shatabdi Exp. at 7.30
am -
arr. Chandigarh 10.40 am.

2. Finish Kulu/Manali (or Shimla if you wish to travel by train)

3. Dep. Chandigarh on Jan. 3(Sunday) by Chandigarh Shatabdi at 12.20 pm
-
arr. New Delhi 3.30 pm.

4. Dep. New Delhi on Jan. 3 by Karnataka Exp. at 9.15 pm - arr.
Bangalore
2.00 pm on Jan. 5(Tuesday)
OR
Dep. Nizamuddin on Jan. 4(Monday) by Rajdhani Exp. at 8.50 pm - arr.
Bangalore 6.55 am on Jan. 6(Wednesday)

(if you want to travel by the Rajdhani, you now have an extra day to
spend
at Chandigarh/Delhi. Note that the Chandigarh Shatabdi is a daily train
and
the Bangalore Rajdhani is a biweekly train)

5. Dep. Bangalore on Jan. 7(Thursday) at 9.00 pm by Bangalore-Trivandrum
Exp.(daily train) - arr. Ernakulam Town at 9.55 am on Jan. 8(Friday).
Take
the bus(?) to Cochin.

OR

Dep. Bangalore on Jan. 6(Wednesday) at 3.45 pm by Bangalore-Quilon
Exp.
(weekly train) - arr. Cochin at 5.55 am on Jan. 7(Thursday).

6. Dep. Ernakulam on Jan. 8(Friday) at 4.20 pm by Alleppey-Chennai
Exp.(daily) - arr. Chennai at 6.30 am on Jan. 9(Saturday).

7. Dep. Chennai Egmore on Jan. 9 at 10.00 pm by Rockfort Exp.(daily) -
arr.
Villupuram at 1.10 am on Jan. 10(Sunday). Then catch the morning
passenger
(departs around 5.00 am) to reach Pondicherry around 6.00 am. [Need to
confirm this from SR TT]. However, you would have to spend 4 hrs. at
Villupuram in the middle of the night. There should be plenty of buses
from Villupuram to Pondicherry although I am not sure about the hours of
operation.

OR

Dep. Chennai on Jan 10(Sunday) at 8.00 am by Cholan Exp.(daily) -
arr.
Villupuram at 12.10 pm. Then take a bus to Pondicherry.

8. Return to Villupuram by bus/train on Jan. 10. Villupuram to
Bangalore is
the tricky part. The shortest route is via Vellore-Katpadi but there
doesn't seem to be any convenient connection at Katpadi for Bangalore.
Probably the best thing is to spend a couple of hours at Villupuram,
then
catch the Nagore-Chennai Exp. (daily) at 1.45 am to reach Chennai at
5.35 am
on Jan. 11(Monday). You would not have time to catch the Shatabdi Exp.
that
leaves Chennai Central at 6.00 am, so board the Brindavan Exp.(daily) at
7.15 am - arr. Bangalore at 1.20 pm.

9. Dep. Bangalore on Jan. 25(Monday) at 6.35 pm by Rajdhani Exp. - arr.
Secunderabad at 6.30 am on Jan. 26(Tuesday). Or you can take the
Bangalore-Secunderabad Exp.(daily) that leaves Bangalore about an hour
earlier to reach Secunderabad around the same time.

10. Dep. Secunderabad on Jan. 26 at 7.30 pm by Secunderabad-Bangalore
Exp. -
arr. Guntakal at 2.00 am. Then board the Hampi Exp.(daily) at 4.55 am
to
reach Hubli at 11.10 am on Jan. 27(Wednesday).

11. Dep. Hubli on Jan. 28(Thursday) at 2.50 pm by Mysore-Mumbai CST Exp.
-
arr. Pune at 3.20 am on Jan. 29(Friday). Can someone confirm that the
Mysore-Mumbai Exp. has already been introduced? If not, take the
Bangalore-Mumbai Exp. a day later (the timings are the same).

12. Dep. Pune on Jan. 30 (Saturday) at 7.15 am by Deccan Queen Exp. -
arr.
Mumbai CST at 10.40 am.


Note
----
This gives you only a couple of days at Mumbai, so you may want to
shorten
your Bangalore stint or skip Hyderabad altogether. Also, there is a
direct
train from Bangalore to Hubli - Hampi Exp. dep. Bangalore at 9.55 pm,
arr.
Hubli at 11.10 am the next day.

I have tried to include overnight journeys as much as possible so that
you
spend your daytimes fruitfully. Also, I have indicated the frequency of
the
trains so that you can shift certain journeys by a day or two.

Hope this helps,

Vijay

From: Henry Posner III <>

Subject: Re: Sound files of locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 10:57:13 -0500


If there are sounds to be recorded, I would suggest YP and YG whistles
at
Wankaner, or even on the Royal Orient. They could thus be preserved in
digital form in cyberspace for the New Millenium, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vivek Prakash [mailto:vivekp@ihug.email
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 11:58 AM
To: Apurva Bahadur
Cc: IRFCA
Subject: Re: Sound files of locos


Hi Apurva, I've been toying with MP3 for a little while. A 5 minute mp3
sequence should take about 3 - 4 Mb of space, and the wav file would
take about 35 - 40. I think recording sounds from a footplate trip for
us folk would be fantastic! I'd set the computer alarm to wake me up to
the sound of a wdm2's horns every morning :-)
If you can somehow get the sounds into wav, I can send you some fairly
easy to use software to convert it to MP3, and then you would be able to
put it on a website for us to download. Just one thing to be mindful of
-- the conversion process can take a while (about 30 minutes on a good
pentium) for 5 minutes of audio... and pentiums are advised for people
listening to sounds in MP3 as well.
Regards
Vivek.

Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Gang !
>
> I was just thinking that there is no site on the entire web which
offers
loco sounds
> in MP 3 format, or is there ? I do not know much about MP3 but what I
have
understood
> is that a 5 minute sequence in stereo would be around one Mb or so.
Hence
I go with a
> portable tape recorder and take a footplate ride on the WDM 2 to
Kolhapur
and edit the
> sections of the prime mover sounds, dynamic brakes, horns, driver's
talk
(assistant
> spot the signal and shout - "Salpa home 'right' ", driver responds
"right", driver -
> "Salpa road 1" - asst - "Road 1, sir".) and then wav to MP3 it and
upload
it. How
> feasible is this ? What should be the target MP 3 file size and that
should result
> from how large a WAV file and how large a sound sequence. The more
experienced gang
> please advise.
>
> Apurva
>
> Where did this 'right' term come from ? If there is a common slang on
the
entire IR,
> this is it. It signifies understood, correct and generally
affirmative. I
think it is
> a corruption of 'right away' or some term like that which the
Britishers
use.


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That will be the beginning. | ICQ # 3183907 |
- Louis L'Amour | webpage: coming soon |
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From: Philip Wormald <>

Subject: Re: Sound files of Locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 12:48:05 -0500


Apurva,
Yes I have played around with sound files, the MP3 files are very good,
and
compact compared to WAV.
YES PLEASE, lets have some WDM2 action on the WEB, I would certainly
like to
hear some sounds, from tick over until FULL POWER. And also some good
screaming dynamics.
We have a few done of the ALCO power in Greece. Must get them uploaded
to a
site somewhere.

Thanks, and HAPPY CHRISTMAS, and a New Year, full of ALCO talk!

Phil
PWormald@alco.email

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: Sound files of locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 17:55:40 -0500



Hi gang,

Talking about loco sounds, I have a very old 45rpm extended play record
by
Decca (made in India) which has sounds of Indian Diesel Locos. I wish
they
had something like that on Indian Steam.

Don't know why but I still love those old fashioned Records than
cassettes.

Viraf.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrej.email
==========================

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Sound files of locos

Date: 23 Dec 1998 22:27:17 -0500


Okay Henry - this can be done. The Mumbai gang and I (at Pune) are going
to
Wankaner in Jan. I would carry a small recorder and let us see how this
works
out.

Apurva

Henry Posner III wrote:

> If there are sounds to be recorded, I would suggest YP and YG whistles
at
> Wankaner, or even on the Royal Orient. They could thus be preserved in
> digital form in cyberspace for the New Millenium, etc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivek Prakash [mailto:vivekp@ihug.email
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 11:58 AM
> To: Apurva Bahadur
> Cc: IRFCA
> Subject: Re: Sound files of locos
>
> Hi Apurva, I've been toying with MP3 for a little while. A 5 minute
mp3
> sequence should take about 3 - 4 Mb of space, and the wav file would
> take about 35 - 40. I think recording sounds from a footplate trip for
> us folk would be fantastic! I'd set the computer alarm to wake me up
to
> the sound of a wdm2's horns every morning :-)
> If you can somehow get the sounds into wav, I can send you some fairly
> easy to use software to convert it to MP3, and then you would be able
to
> put it on a website for us to download. Just one thing to be mindful
of
> -- the conversion process can take a while (about 30 minutes on a good
> pentium) for 5 minutes of audio... and pentiums are advised for people
> listening to sounds in MP3 as well.
> Regards
> Vivek.
>
> Apurva Bahadur wrote:
> >
> > Gang !
> >
> > I was just thinking that there is no site on the entire web which
offers
> loco sounds
> > in MP 3 format, or is there ? I do not know much about MP3 but what
I have
> understood
> > is that a 5 minute sequence in stereo would be around one Mb or so.
Hence
> I go with a
> > portable tape recorder and take a footplate ride on the WDM 2 to
Kolhapur
> and edit the
> > sections of the prime mover sounds, dynamic brakes, horns, driver's
talk
> (assistant
> > spot the signal and shout - "Salpa home 'right' ", driver responds
> "right", driver -
> > "Salpa road 1" - asst - "Road 1, sir".) and then wav to MP3 it and
upload
> it. How
> > feasible is this ? What should be the target MP 3 file size and that
> should result
> > from how large a WAV file and how large a sound sequence. The more
> experienced gang
> > please advise.
> >
> > Apurva
> >
> > Where did this 'right' term come from ? If there is a common slang
on the
> entire IR,
> > this is it. It signifies understood, correct and generally
affirmative. I
> think it is
> > a corruption of 'right away' or some term like that which the
Britishers
> use.
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> There will come a time | Vivek Prakash
|
> when you believe everything is finished. | vivekp@ihug.email
|
> That will be the beginning. | ICQ # 3183907
|
> - Louis L'Amour | webpage: coming soon
|
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: More on sound files

Date: 24 Dec 1998 00:34:57 -0500


Gang !

I am soon going to take a trial run of sounds at Pune Jn. Although the
security forces and the officials at the station are touchy about junta
taking pictures, they cannot object to me openly recording sounds. The
official secrets act (c. 1890s?) will not apply to sound recordings !

Apurva

From: S.B.Mehta <>

Subject: Re: More on sound files

Date: 24 Dec 1998 01:36:53 -0500


> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:04:57 +0530
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
> Subject: More on sound files

> Gang !
>
> I am soon going to take a trial run of sounds at Pune Jn. Although the
> security forces and the officials at the station are touchy about
junta
> taking pictures, they cannot object to me openly recording sounds. The
> official secrets act (c. 1890s?) will not apply to sound recordings !
>
> Apurva
>
>
That's because sounds have drastically changed since 1890.
Moreover, you wouldn't have found any gentleman carrying a gramophone
to the rly station to record the sounds in those times. Apurva, this
is just for a lark!
(Maybe, I am drastically wrong!)

Sarosh


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From: KRISHNA T S <>

Subject: Re: More on sound files, also about the YAM1

Date: 24 Dec 1998 05:13:54 -0500


Hi Apurva

Sorry for the lack of participation after the first round of mail
exchanges. I really appreciate your prompt replies and those from Vijay.


Even if you do get arrested, please make sure that you get at least 25
different sound bites of the Alcos - I'll then bail you out for sure. If

you get some really good WDM2 pics, I'll even pay for the lawyer - only
kidding (about you getting arrested that is).

Guys, the YAM1 AC loco out of Tambaram shed is gonna be extinct as soon
as the long drawn out gauge conversion is over. This is a really cute
electric loco and I'll post some pics of this loco and some Alco pics of

the groovy Golden Rock WDM2s and YDM4s that now come to Chennai Egmore
station onto a website ASAP.

Krishna


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From: Milind Thekedar <>

Subject: GREETINGS

Date: 24 Dec 1998 10:17:59 -0500


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To: Ajit Gadre < sagadre@bom5.email <mailto:sagadre@bom5.email
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 11:40 PM
Subject: GREETINGS



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From: Alan Sponberg <>

Subject: Kucknow Travel

Date: 24 Dec 1998 14:22:58 -0500


Hello,

Can someone recommend a reliable travel agency in Lucknow, one capable
of
booking tickets as well as arranging bus charters? FAX or phone numbers
and
e-mail address if available would be especially helpful.

Many Thanks!
Alan Sponberg