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From: shankar s <>

Subject: Re: [Re: [More About Pakistan Railway ???]]

Date: 03 Oct 1999 02:33:17 -0500


Hello Sandeep,
Try the following additional websites for additional info on Pak
railways:

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Exchange/6033/pakistanrailways.html">http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Exchange/6033/pakistanrailways.html</A>

<A HREF="http://www.pak.gov.pk/govt/communications/comm4.htm">http://www.pak.gov.pk/govt/communications/comm4.htm</A>
I still haven't been able to locate a decent map!!
Cheers
Shankar







San-Ind <docqcs@nde.email wrote:
At 01:56 AM 10/2/99 PDT, you wrote:
>Hello Sandeep,
>Welcome aboard. I'm sure you'll enjoy being with us, and will learn a
good
>deal about the IR and about oneself, as I have.
>Thank you for your interest in my Pakistan Railway 'neighbors' website.
>At the same time however, I must confess that I'm hardly an authority
on
Pak.
>Railways: I happened to put the site together merely because I had some
>material on the subject. Fellow member Larry Russel was also kind
enough to
>allow me to link my site to his Pak page.
>
>Anyway, here is the url for Pak. Railways official website. You will
get
>answers to several of your questions here:
>
><A HREF="http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/">http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/</A>
>
>I shall forward more urls as and when I come across them.
>
>Cheers
>
>Shankar
>
>

Dear Mr. Shankar,
Thank u for writing me....
I'd Visited Pakistan Rly. Site.... But it was .......
I got an unclear Map......

Any way i'm trying through a Map agency to get it....

Regards

Sandeep Sharma



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From: Vdate <>

Subject: Re: [Re: [More About Pakistan Railway ???]]

Date: 03 Oct 1999 09:22:23 -0500


Agree, that the railways in Pakistan were once part of IR. Or were they,

Indian railways came in existence several years after the independence
due to
nationalization. What railways from prenationalization times were
operating
in, what is now, Pakistan? Jodhpur, BBCI and GIP. Any other?

I suspect the railways in Bangladesh have similar heritage.

From: lwebber <>

Subject: Re: Route-kms on IR (Revised) - ALSO, Missing Distances!

Date: 03 Oct 1999 10:38:30 -0500


Harsh said:
> Dear Larry,
> >ER/BG
> >Sheakhala-Dankuni Jn-Andul Jn.
>
> I would reckon it is Sealdah. Then Sealdah(0) - via Vivekananda
> Bridge -Dankuni Jn(22 ) -Andul Jn.
> If not, where is Sheakhala please?

No, I did not mean Sealdah! Murray's Guide shows it as a spur from
Dankuni Jn.

Here is an extract from Dr Walker's mail that I found:-

Martin's and Mcleod's light railways. There were quite a lot of
these, and the best source is the Railway Board's Indian Railways
Constructed and in Progress, and the compendium History of Defunct
Railways;
there is also a roundup in Hughes n.g. books. Martin's built several
lines
in Bengal, of which the 2ft gauge Howrah-Amta and Howrah-Sheakhala were
best
known. These closed on 1/1/1971. The other Bengal lines were
Bukhtiarpur-Bihar (closed 1962, replaced by BG) and Baraset-Basirhat
(closed
1955), both 2ft 6in gauge. They also had the Shahdara-Saharanpur line,
closed 1970, later replaced by BG. Their last two lines were the
Arrah-Sasaram (closed 1978) and the Futwah-Islampur, closed 1986.
McLeod's
had the Ahmadpur-Katwa and Burdwan-Katwa lines, which were transferred
to
the ER in 1966-7; the Bankura-Damoodar River line, which went to SER in
1967, and the Kalighat-Falta, which was closed in 1955. The other major
private line was Rohtas Industries Dehri-Tiura Pipradih line, the
Dehri-Rohtas Light Railway. This may still be running. There were
numerous
small industrial lines, but these were not common carriers.


> Any more on SER?

Outstanding are:

Bhandaridah-Rajabehra-Dugdawasrery-Jamuniatanr Halt

(Which are all in the Mahuda Jn. area, generally to the West. Please
check back between the exchanges between Vijay and myself a couple of
weeks ago (titled: "Unsolved IR Mysteries: Mahuda Region", also
"Mahuda-Bhokudih revisited") and you can follow the detailed discussion.
Jamuniatanr Halt is in the Bradshaw.)

Amta-Bargachia Jn.-Chanpadanga

Also, intermediate stations/distances on Tamluk Jn.-Digha(W.B), which I
understand is incomplete.

> Regards,
> Harsh

Regards to all

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From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: Re: rail photos

Date: 03 Oct 1999 11:29:14 -0500


Hello Tim,
Nice pics. I found four of them particularly interesting:
1. THe caboose in the glen (I think its #4)
2. The diesel with the lights on against a steamy background.
3. The one next to the forest fire (or so it seems)
4. The last one: with the snowy mountain in the background.

The first few (which you say were the basis for the Indian diesels) have
a comparatively short long hood with an elongated nose at the short
hood.

I particularly enjoyed the photography.

How are you doing with your webpage development? You should probably put
one a page showing your best photographs, irrespective of subject.
One of the links on my webpages (Geoff Cryer's pages: the icon appears
on all my webpages except the index) has a spearate page for his best
photos only. THere is a link on that page to another website by Alan,
with a similar arrangement.
I particularly freaked out on your Katpadi shots, and have saved each
and every one of them on a floppy.
Cheers.
Shankar



Tim & Anita Wakeman wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> You may or may not be interested in these. I thought I would share
some
> of my photography that I had posted for other "list". They are all of
US
> railroads but the first couple are of Alco C420s which were the design
> used for ?WDM/YDM2?.
>

From: John Lacey <>

Subject: Re: [Re: [More About Pakistan Railway ???]]

Date: 03 Oct 1999 15:49:18 -0500


Vdate@aol.email wrote:
>
> Agree, that the railways in Pakistan were once part of IR. Or were
they,
> Indian railways came in existence several years after the independence
due to
> nationalization. What railways from prenationalization times were
operating
> in, what is now, Pakistan? Jodhpur, BBCI and GIP. Any other?
>
> I suspect the railways in Bangladesh have similar heritage.

BR:
from
Bengal Assam Railway-BG, MG
Eastern Bengal State Railway-NG

PR:
from
North Western Railway-BG,NG
Jodphur Railway-MG

Both NWR and BAR were government owned and operated.

Cheers,
John Lacey

From: Tim & Anita Wakeman <>

Subject: Re: rail photos

Date: 03 Oct 1999 18:30:08 -0500


S.Shankar wrote:
>
> Hello Tim,
> Nice pics. I found four of them particularly interesting:
> 1. THe caboose in the glen (I think its #4)

This was actully in a small rail yard near where I live. There are very
few cabooses anywhere any more.

> 2. The diesel with the lights on against a steamy background.

This was taken along the Hudson River at sunrise as the morning fog was
lifting from the water.

> 3. The one next to the forest fire (or so it seems)

This shot was taken across the river from the #2 shot you like.It was
also at sunrise. That is the sun reflecting off the water with fog
lifting also. This shot has been published in a U.S. RR mag.By the way,
these are two different rail lines on opposite banks of the river.

> 4. The last one: with the snowy mountain in the background.
This one was on a trip to Califirnia on the Union Pacific Railroad.
>
> The first few (which you say were the basis for the Indian diesels)
have
> a comparatively short long hood with an elongated nose at the short
> hood.
>
> I particularly enjoyed the photography.
>
> How are you doing with your webpage development? You should probably
put
> one a page showing your best photographs, irrespective of subject.
> One of the links on my webpages (Geoff Cryer's pages: the icon appears
> on all my webpages except the index) has a spearate page for his best
> photos only. THere is a link on that page to another website by Alan,
> with a similar arrangement.

I would like to do this. It is all a matter of time.


> I particularly freaked out on your Katpadi shots, and have saved each
> and every one of them on a floppy.

Thanks for "freakin'".Look for a follow up on the Katpadi page soon.

Regards, Tim

> Cheers.

From: HVC <>

Subject: Re: pakistan railway website

Date: 03 Oct 1999 21:28:25 -0500


Dear Shankar,

>Pak: actually, curiosity alright. But historically,
>Pak and IR were once almost one and the same. Remember
>the NWR engines in the NRM? The massive XG, the ST
>707, the MTR which once worked on the KArachi Port
>Trust lines?


Not to forget the Decauville, HG/C and relics fron Kalka-Simla Rly.,
like
the railcar and ZF-107, which was a part of NWR then. Incidently XG was
originally 0-8-0 and was rebuilt as 2-8-2 at Mogulpura w/s to decrease
the
axle load. So XG became XG/M meaning modified.

I think we have preserved more or Pakistan's Rly. heritage than Pakistan
themselves. However to give the devil their due, there are in fact two
locomotives preserved(plinthed) outside the Mogulpura works.

>India once had TWO rack railways: the Nilgiri mg one
>in the south, and a bg one near the Khyber (or is it
>Bolan) pass in the NW. The latter passed on to
>Pakistan.

Can you throw some more light on this one please?

Harsh

From: raymond/Polaris <>

Subject: Gauntletted Tracks

Date: 03 Oct 1999 21:32:09 -0500




Dear gang,

The Madras Beach - Royapuram track was gauntletted (3 rails and not 4),
with
three BG rails. This was to enable MG petroleum rakes to go to the
Madras Port
sidings and get filled. I shall check it out this Saturday and confirm.

Regards

Raymond

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: Gauntletted Tracks

Date: 03 Oct 1999 22:59:02 -0500



Hello gang,

In 1970 I remember having travelled on BG + NG dual gauge track between
Nagpur & Itwari. I was in the NG train.

Viraf

From: HVC <>

Subject: HGS 26761 run.

Date: 04 Oct 1999 00:55:38 -0500


 
Well you have heard (and seen) the most of it from reports and webnews. Here is my delayed two-bit account of the revival of steam in east India.
 
As planned the HGS 26761 ran  on 19.09.99
However the run was rescheduled from Howrah to Tribeni instead of Bandel. A distance of 49 Km.
 
The formation was a CRT wagon with tools tackles repair gang and a genset water pump, a TW wagon with spare water, an AC chair car, an AC first class coach converted into lounge car and two first class coaches.
 
The crew working were on the train were a little nervous as all big shots including 3 GM's were to be around for the occasion. Train was prepared at Howrah loco and brought to Howrah stn. at 0930 Departed at 1000. It was a good clear day although sweaty which is usual at this time for Calcutta.
The train was worked slowly at about 25-30 Kmph with the anxious AMEs DMEs on the footplate giving all briefs. The loco did have the original whistle which is quite loud and shrieking type. Huge crowds gathered gathered wherever the train stopped or passed through. The loco was decorated quite well although the Orange, white and green livery didn't go very well with the wagons. The tender also had a EIR insignia. Travelling on the mainline, with a few caution stops in between Bandel Jn. was reached at about 1200. Here I got down and took some pictures of the train departing.
Then took local to Katwa(incidentally this is also a single line electrified passenger section) at 12.50 join the party at tribeni. After lunch and speeches, we started back at 1530 and this time there were some problems of the tender axle getting heated so there was some delay but who was complaining. The train was worked upto 50 Kmph on return and the clapping of the pistons was a music to be heard to be believed. Reached back Howrah at 06.30
 
ER now plans to make it a regular trip in marketing arrangement with WB Tourism Deptt. The journey will also include visit to important places enroute like Belur math, Mahesh, Chandannagar, Chuchura, Hooghly Ghat, Bandel and Bansberia. Alternate routes are also being explored.
Steam Tour operators who may be interested can write to DRM Howrah Division or West Bengal Tourism Deptt. Any problems, feel free to contact me.
 
Another highlight of the journey besides encounter with steam was that in just 48 hours I could undertake and enjoy the following modes of transportation;
An Electric loco
A Diesel Loco(WDM2 and WDS6)
A Steam loco
A Suburban train
A Metro train
A Tram
A Steamer
A Push-pull type train on circular railway.
 and Not to mention of the battered taxis and buses of Calcutta.
 

From: HVC <>

Subject: Re: Route-kms on IR (Revised) - ALSO, Missing Distances!

Date: 04 Oct 1999 01:26:09 -0500




>
>Bhandaridah-Rajabehra- Chandrapur Jn.(353), Dugda(349)-Jamuniatand(346)
Km. ex. Howrah

Chandrapura Jn.(305), Bhandaridah(312), Barkakana(389)

Dhanbad(0), Katrasgarh(14), Jamuni H(24), Jamuniatanr H(26) Chandrapura
Jn.(34)

Bhojudih - Mohuda 23.830
Muri - Rajabera 63.634
Mohuda - Dugda 14.993

Hope that helps in some way.

harsh

>
>(Which are all in the Mahuda Jn. area, generally to the West. Please
check
back between the exchanges between Vijay and myself a couple of weeks
ago
(titled: "Unsolved IR Mysteries: Mahuda Region", also "Mahuda-Bhokudih
revisited") and you can follow the detailed discussion. Jamuniatanr
Halt is
in the Bradshaw.)
>

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: Does IR really have 610kms of route duplicated (BG and MG)?

Date: 04 Oct 1999 01:32:49 -0500


Hi Larry and Gang,

>SR
>Thanjavur Jn.-Ponmalai (Golden Rock) Jn.
This line to the best of my knowledge is now dual. The BG has been very
very
recently commissioned and is undergoing freight trials. I remember
seeing a
news clipping on this.

>Madurai Jn.-Dindigul Jn.
There is a BG line for sure but has the M.G been discontinued will be
verified by tomorrow unless someone else comes up with an answer

>Cuddalore Port Jn.-Villupuram Jn.
Strictly M.G. There is a proposal to convert the main line MG also to BG
and
work has started on the conversion at the Tanjavur end. But this stretch
has
not yet been touched till now. May be a year or two atleast to get
converted.


kind regards,
Anand

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Solapur - Hotgi - Bijapur - Gadag

Date: 04 Oct 1999 02:02:22 -0500


Gang !

The 1999 CR tt mentions Solapur - Hotgi - Bijapur runs. The HG
- BJP section is very much under the Hubli division of SCR but
the BG services are operated by SUR division of CR so they are
listed in the CR tt. This is a new listing found only from
this year.
For the last month a push pull coach (maybe sent to Pune shed
for axle turning) with the marking of SCR and the board of SUR
- BJP - SUR is stabled in the Pune yard, this maybe sent to
Pune shed for axle turning.
So the SUR - BJP run (listed as passenger) is actually a
pushpull service.
The Hubli - Gagag is already BG and through connected to GTL
via Hopspet. Only the Gagag - Bijapur seems to be MG or under
conversion.

Apurva

From: shankar s. <>

Subject: Re: pakistan railway website

Date: 04 Oct 1999 02:20:40 -0500




Hello,
Thank you very much, Harsh.

I have copy-pasted the text of the relevant bits
below, in case you are traveling and cannot access the
net due to your slow laptop.
In case you are home, you can get a more colorful
version of the same by clicking on the following url:

<A HREF="http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r019.html">http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r019.html</A>


Here are some bits and pieces about the NWR rack line:

North Western |Musahkaf - Bolan |1 in
25
|Sind - Pishin |1 in
40 and 45
|Kyber Railway |1 in
25 and 33
|2 ft. 6 in. Gauge |
North Western |Kangra Valley |1 in
25
| |
(mostly 1 in 40)
|Kalka - Simla |1 in
33

Turning our attention now to the rugged North-West
Frontier, with its wild tribesmen and hundreds of
miles of
barren mountains, we find in the Bolan Pass Line,
Baluchistan, another broad-gauge line with even
steeper
gradients. This mountain railway, forming the
Mushkaf-Bolan section of the North-Western Railway,
carries a
substantial traffic to and from the North-West
Frontier Province, the important military centre of
Quetta, and
Chaman, on, the borders of Afghanistan. At the time of
writing (1935), Quetta has been devastated by one of
the
worst earthquakes in the history of India. There is
some doubt as to whether this famous military centre
will be
rebuilt, and this must be borne in mind when any
mention is made of Quetta on this page. The
Mushkaf-Bolan
section is the direct route from the plains to Quetta,
as opposed to the alternative Sind-Pishin railway,
which,
however, has easier gradients. Originally built as a
metre-gauge line, the Bolan Pass Railway was
reconstructed as
a broad-gauge section in the 1890's. It is eighty-six
miles long, and the aggregate rise from Sibi, at the
foot of the
incline, to Kolpur, the summit before reaching Quetta,
is 5,463 vertical feet. This great ascent necessitates
long
stretches graded at 1 in 25 and 1 in 33, throughout
both of which the line is double, as well as climbs of
1 in 40 and
easier gradients.

The line, which is steam operated, is solidly built,
so that the heaviest engines can run over it. For many
years the
only Indian broad-gauge "Mallet" compound, having the
2-6-0 + 0-6-2 wheel arrangement, and a heavy 2-6-2 +
2-6-2 Garratt locomotive were used on the Bolan line
to supplement the standard superheated "H.G." class
4-8-0
"maids-of-all-work." The latter haul the mails,
passenger trains, and goods trains indiscriminately,
assisted up the 1
in 23 and 1 in 33 lengths by powerful 2-8-2 side tank
locomotives weighing some 95 tons. They have 20 in. by
26 in.
cylinders, 4 ft. 3 in. coupled wheels, a grate area of
30 sq. ft. and a total heating surface of just over
2,000 sq. ft.; 70
tons are available for adhesion and 2,200 gallons of
water and 6.5 tons of coal are carried. Although the
Mushkaf-Bolan section is in Baluchistan, the barren,
rocky mountains through which it climbs are typical of
"the
Frontier." Sibi, at its foot, is probably the hottest
spot in all India, and the shade temperature on the
station
platform goes up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit. On the
other hand, the Quetta district in winter experiences
cold down
to 15 degrees of frost. The difference in the climate,
atmosphere, and temperature as one travels up this
wonderful
railway is very marked indeed at almost any time of
the year.

The first line to be constructed to Quetta was the
Sind-Pishin, but it is still of a comparatively light
standard. The
heaviest engines allowed over it are the new Indian
standard light 4-6-2 XA's, which have only 13-ton axle
loads.
Single throughout, this line is about 120 miles in
length. In that distance it mounts over 6,000 vertical
feet, with a
ruling gradient of 1 in 40-45. Two outstanding
engineering features on this route are the Chappar
Rift and the Mud
Gorge. The former is a deep cleft in the country about
three miles long, with vertical cliffs 200 to 300 ft.
in height,
which cuts across the ridge separating two valleys.
The line uses it to pass from one of the valleys to
the other, but
this bold policy involves nine tunnels 6,400 ft. in
aggregate length, a seven-span viaduct and the famous
Margaret
Louise bridge, which is 250 ft. high and consists of
one 150 ft. and eight 40 ft. spans. The Mud Gorge is a
very steep
narrow valley, five miles long, with most treacherous
soil, mostly gypsum, that becomes a sludge and slips
down the
valley when there is any rain. The only practicable
way to control the landslides was to line the gorge
with masonry,
after some considerable difficulty and at great cost.

Though not on our list of hill railways, the other two
lines which radiate from Quetta are of unusual
interest. One
goes northwards, and after passing through the Khojak
Tunnel, the longest in India, reaches the Afghan
frontier at
Chaman. There is considerable fruit traffic from
Khandahar via Chaman to all parts of India at certain
times of the
year.

The other line forms the long tentacle that stretches
westwards and for two hundred miles marches with the
Afghan
frontier until it enters Persia at Mirjawa, and ends
at Duzdap. On this line there is a very tortuous
descending ghat
section to Nushki, the ruling gradient for several
miles being 1 in 50. The section of this line from Nok
Kundi to
Duzdap was, however, closed to traffic some years ago.


The last but not the least of the broad-gauge hill
railways is that over the Khyber Pass, which was
completed in
1925. Leaving the Plain of Peshawar at Jamrud, this
line climbs through some 2,000 vertical feet to the
summit of
the pass at Landi Kotal, the stiffest part of the
climb requiring 1 in 33 grades, and two reversing
stations. From
Landi Kotal the line descends to Landi Khana on the
Afghan frontier. There is a fall of 577 vertical feet
in a
distance of under a mile as the crow flies, but a
track distance of three and a half miles has been
developed by
means of two reversing stations, and a gradient of 1
in 25. But the most interesting development is on the
1 in 33
climb from Jamrud. This line, also is worked by the
ubiquitous "H.G." class 2-8-0 type locomotives. It is
less
spectacular than some others, but it was very
difficult to build. The construction involved
thirty-two tunnels in what
proved to be most treacherous shale. The work had to
be carried out in the face of the wild and lawless
Pathan
tribesman, who resented the coming of the railway.










--- HVC <hvc@vsnl.email wrote:

> >India once had TWO rack railways: the Nilgiri mg
> one
> >in the south, and a bg one near the Khyber (or is
> it
> >Bolan) pass in the NW. The latter passed on to
> >Pakistan.
>
> Can you throw some more light on this one please?
>
> Harsh
>
>


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From: shankar s. <>

Subject:

Date: 04 Oct 1999 02:32:37 -0500


Hello Harsh and others,
Whoooops! I'm most awfully sorry.
Although I'd so painstakingly reproduced the hill
railways text in my earlier mail, I realize now that
there is no mention of the rack railway there
whatsoever!

I'd read it somewhere in a Pakistan supplement here in
Dubai.

I'll nose around a little and let you know whenever I
can find something.

Cheers.

Shankar


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From: raymond/Polaris <>

Subject: Re: pakistan railway website

Date: 04 Oct 1999 03:20:28 -0500




I remember seeing this on BBC World "Great Railway Journeys", with Mark
Tully as
the anchor. This was basically an epilogue to the episode on the Khyber
Mail.
The Karachi - Peshawar run was over 36 hours, diesel hauled by a WDM1
lookalike.. Then the PR made a special run from Pershawar to Quetta,
which
consisted of two compartments with steam engines on either end. Lots of
bridges
and tunnels, as well as a couple of reversing stations, which is why
they had
the engines literally back to back, except for the compartments in
between. And
yes, the engines were oil burning, not coal. I wonder if someone can get
that
series re-broadcast.

Raymond

From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Visit to South Station

Date: 04 Oct 1999 08:47:48 -0500


Sundar Krishnamurthy wrote:
>
> Hello Jishnu, VIjay and Gang
>
> > > I doubt whether Amtrak will be able to introduce
> > > its high-speed ACELA service by October of
> > > this year.
> <*snip*>
> > ... Firts train using HH8s will be sometime rearly
> > next year, and Acela Expresses using TGV derived
> > trains in early second quarter 2000.
>
> I had been to meet up a mate in Philadelphia this weekend and had a
> surprise waiting for me at the 30th street station. There is an Acela
power
> car on the yard tracks below the SEPTA platforms.. and it stands
heading a
> normal set of Amtrak passenger cars. To get a better view - I got down
and
> went to the top of a parking lot bordering the yard there - it looks
very
> TGV-ish.

That is most probably a HHL8 8000 HP new electric locomotive that you
saw. At
one time there were two complete Acela Express trainsets at the Race
Street
facility in Philly. They were being used for test along the NEC between
New
Brunswick and Trenton, and also between Philly and Harrisburg. They may
or may
not still be there.

Jishnu.
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Jishnu Mukerji
Systems Architect

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From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Route-kms on IR (Revised) - ALSO, Missing Distances!

Date: 04 Oct 1999 09:02:24 -0500


lwebber@planetmail.email wrote:
>
> Harsh said:
> > Dear Larry,
> > >ER/BG
> > >Sheakhala-Dankuni Jn-Andul Jn.
> >
> > I would reckon it is Sealdah. Then Sealdah(0) - via Vivekananda
> > Bridge -Dankuni Jn(22 ) -Andul Jn.
> > If not, where is Sheakhala please?

It is in the area which lies roughly roughly North of the SER main line
to
Kharagpur and South-West of the ER Howrah-Barddhaman Chord.

> No, I did not mean Sealdah! Murray's Guide shows it as a spur from
Dankuni Jn.
>
> Here is an extract from Dr Walker's mail that I found:-
>
> Martin's and Mcleod's light railways. There were quite a lot of
> these, and the best source is the Railway Board's Indian Railways
> Constructed and in Progress, and the compendium History of Defunct
Railways;
> there is also a roundup in Hughes n.g. books. Martin's built several
lines
> in Bengal, of which the 2ft gauge Howrah-Amta and Howrah-Sheakhala
were best
> known. These closed on 1/1/1971.

I seem to recall that both Howrah - Amta and Howrah - Sheakhala NG lines
terminated at Howrah Maidan. If that is correct then it is unlikely that
the
Sheakhala BG line is a spur from Dankuni. It is more likely that it is a
spur
off the new Howrah - Amta line, but this is of course all subject to
verification. I am also told that the Howrah - Amta BG line has not
quite
reached Amta yet. Same may be the situation with the Sheakhala line.
Unless some
one does the on the ground reconnaisance of this before May 2000, I will
do it
personally and report back.

... snip snip ...

>
> Amta-Bargachia Jn.-Chanpadanga
>
> Also, intermediate stations/distances on Tamluk Jn.-Digha(W.B), which
I understand is incomplete.

Yep, there's a station in Digha and most of the right of way (i.e.
mostly
embankments are in place, but missing several culverts/bridges, and of
course
the track.:-) At least that is the last report that I have on this
matter. Again
needs on the ground rec to verify.

Jishnu.
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From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Single line electrification and more...

Date: 04 Oct 1999 09:08:19 -0500


Bharat Vohra wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I can add a few more to single lines that are electrified-
> 1. Anand-Godhra - AC (WR)
> 2. Bayana-Agra Fort - AC (WR)
> 3. Vasai-Diva - DC (CR)
> 4. Belapur-Panvel - DC (CR) [till doubling is complete]
> 5. Karjat-Khopoli - DC (CR)

I believe Barasat - Basirhat - Hasnabad is electrified single track.
There are a
few sections of electrified single tracks in the Sealdah South area
also. I
don't recall which sections though. These are all AC Calcutta suburban
trackage.
Several of the colliery area electrified lines are also single track
(which
ones?). Sheoraphuli - Tarakeshwar (originally 3kV DC converted to 25kV
AC) also
used to be single track. I don't know if it has gotten doubled. Agin
this line
is EMU traffic only.

Jishnu.

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: HOT NEWS --- SCR COMMENCES PASSENGER OPERATIONS OVER BRAGANZA GHAT

Date: 04 Oct 1999 11:02:29 -0500


Dear Gang,
 
I had gone to Goa for my long planned weekend. Went by Konkan Kanya on friday night, returned on Sunday by the Mandovi Express.
 
SAW THIS ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE STATION NOTICE BOARD
 
Effective 04 October 1999
 
7318
VASCO d 1350
MADGAON d 1417
LONDA a 1730
 
7317
LONDA d 0310
MADGAON d 0617
VASCO a 0645
 
Guess these are the connecting trains to the Nizammuddin - Londa Goa Express ..
 
Hoping that other trains follow shortly .... like the Vasco - Bangalore, Vasco - Vijaywada etc....
 

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