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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: new web site

Date: 01 Oct 1999 00:21:35 -0500


Have you gang (careful not to say guys, we may be lady members too),
seen
the driver sitting on the OUTSIDE of the YL power ?
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/7942/yl.jpg">http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/7942/yl.jpg</A>
Which WP shed livery is shown in the pics - Jhansi or Agra ?

John Lacey wrote:

> Thanks to the kind efforts of S.Shankar, who laboured to overcome the
> shortcomings of my scanning attempts, my web site now has 20 images of
> IR.
> They can be found at:
> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/7942/steam_masala.htm">http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/7942/steam_masala.htm</A>
>
> John Lacey

From: lwebber <>

Subject: Route-kms on IR (Revised) - ALSO, Missing Distances!

Date: 01 Oct 1999 04:35:51 -0500


Here are the total route-mileages on IR by Railway and by gauge, per my
latest data (thanks to many for added info. Omitted are only routes for
which I lack even estimated distances - mainly in the colliery region,
and Calcutta metro, and lines known to be permanently shut down.
"BG/MG" for example indicates that the same route is served by both BG
and MG (and is excluded from both the BG and the MG figures). BG/NG is
the Nagpur-Itwari section; MG/NG is the Siliguri-New Jalpaiguri section.
Conversion WIP is shown in the original gauge only.


kms BG MG NG BG/MG BG/NG MG/NG TOTAL
CR 6241 1027 7268
ER 4026 133 4159
KR 768 768
NEFR 1176 2229 80 131 8 3624
NER 2268 2818 23 5109
NR 8923 2018 100 11041
SCR 5954 1215 47 7216
SER 6133 1280 4 7417
SR 4624 2124 131 155 7034
WR 4484 4455 887 154 9980

TOTAL 44597 12841 5556 610 4 8 63616


For example, this means total route mileage for BG on IR is 44597+610+4
= 45211 kms.

Comments etc. are welcome!



Here are the remaining routes where I lack even estimated interstation
distances - help please, even if only a map-based estimate!

ER/BG
Sheakhala-Dankuni Jn-Andul Jn.
Malkera-Katrasgarh
Damodar Jn.-Kalipahari
Sindri Town-Pathardih Jn.-Sindri Marshalling Yard

SER/BG
Rukni-Anara Jn.
Sanka-Joychandipahar-Garh Dhrubeswar
Damodar Jn.-Kulti [ALSO - WHERE IS MOHUDA JN. (not Mahuda Jn.)?]
Bhandaridah-Rajabehra-Dugdawasrery-Jamuniatanr Halt
Amta-Bargachia Jn.-Chanpadanga

SR/BG
Chennai Beach-Chepauk-Luz


Regards to all

Larry


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From: lwebber <>

Subject: Does IR really have 610kms of route duplicated (BG and MG)?

Date: 01 Oct 1999 07:18:37 -0500


My records show all these sections as being DUAL GAUGE (i.e. both Broad
Gauge and Metre Gauge). Is this correct (or are some just "under
conversion", or whatever)?


NEFR
New Bongaigaon-Fakiragram Jn.
Mukuria-Alubari Road

NER
Lucknow Jn.-Daliganj Jn.
Khagaria Jn.-Mansi Jn.
Gorakhpur Cantonment-Gorakhpur Jn.
Chhapra Jn.-Chhapra Kacheri

NR
Delhi Sarai Rohilla-Rewari Jn.
Suratgarh Jn.-Sarupsar Jn.

SCR
Bellary Jn.-Guntakal Jn.

SR
Thanjavur Jn.-Ponmalai (Golden Rock) Jn.
Madurai Jn.-Dindigul Jn.
Cuddalore Port Jn.-Villupuram Jn.

WR
Sabarmati Jn.-Kalol Jn.
Ambliyasan Jn.-Mahesana Jn.
Chanderiya-Nimach
Samakhiali Jn.-Gandhidham Jn.


Any guidance appreciated. I have asked parts (but not all) of this
before.

Regards to all

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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Namaskar From India !!!!

Date: 01 Oct 1999 07:19:06 -0500


Dear Sandeep,

Good to hear from you. You can directly send mail to
irfca@cs.email
which will then get broadcasted to all the members (thanks to our able
administrator, Anurag)

I'd visited to IRFCA's site.... But i didn't got a space to Write
a
message...
> Well reading about train names.... I've some info to share .......
> There are some trains in India which have no Official names but they
have
> public names....
> Like
> 1057/1058 Dadar Amritsar Exp. its public name is Pathankot Mail...
> (Pathankot is a famous Military town of Northern India, 100km. from
> Amritsar & mine native place also) but strange thing is that this
train
> never touch this Pathankot town :)......
>
That's interesting news! Quite a few trains skip Pathankot and halt at
Chakki Bank, instead.
Is Chakki Bank a suburb of Pathankot? Why the "Bank" at the end of the
name?


> Another Train is
> 2403/2404 Jaipur- Jammu Tawi Exp. it had started in 1993 as Pooja
Holiday
> Special train in 1995 it has regularised as a daily train & converted
into
> a Superfast train & extended upto Jaipur but between Delhi & Jaipur
the
> train no. is 2413/2414.....
> Since then it is famous as Pooja Exp.in Public but officially it has
No
> name....
>
Very interesting! This implies that the 2413/2414 Jaipur/Ajmer - Delhi
exp.
and the 2403/2404 Delhi-Jammu Exp. share rakes, so that the Jaipur-Delhi
exp. gets renamed as the
Delhi-Jammu Exp. at Delhi and proceeds to Jammu. I took a look at the
through/sectional service in
my WR TT and there is, indeed, through service between Jaipur and Jammu
using the above trains - two
sleeper coaches are earmarked for Jaipur-Jammu passengers. Very similar
to
the Minar/Konark rake sharing
before the Konark was extended to Mumbai.

Vijay

From: TESPL - Delhi <>

Subject: Re: Park Trains

Date: 01 Oct 1999 10:16:04 -0500


Hi Viraf,
So they ruined the same loco as you say. It was quite
good
actually although not scaled after any standard thing. If you do find
your
report, do let me know. By conversion you mean that it still a steam
loco on
oil firing or is an altogether new diesel engine. By the way, I hate toy
trains on gas/diesel engines.

The best toy steam loco I know is with Bal Bhawan(Children's Museum) in
Delhi. Most asthetically pleasing although they have made a wood/glass
panel
to protect the driver and passengers from soot but it looks quite out of
place and unsightly. It was built by Krauss Maffei (assembled by Telco)
and
presented to J.L. Nehru when the museum was inaugurated. A goodwill
gesture
on part of KM who supplied several of the IR post-war locos. It does
looks
very much like a toy YP and has been scaled after it.

Another good loco is what CLW made for their park. Scaled after WP but
with
a obnoxious tall stack(again for the same reason). It is on 15" and
comes to
Delhi for the annual `Rail Mela'. Might come to Bombay for the
celebrations
which you mentioned.
If it does, don't miss it.

Calcutta trip was excellent and you must have read most of the news from
the
press. I write a brief note shortly as well.
Regards,

Harsh


-----Original Message-----
From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <sncf@godrej.email
To: Harsh Vardhan <hvc@vsnl.email
Cc: Indian Railway Fan Club <irfca@cs.email
Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Park Trains


>
>> Viraf
>> Do you know where the steam loco is nowadays and in what
>> condition?!!? I recall it being a 15" gauge. Isn't it?
>>
>> Harsh
>
>
>Hello Harsh,
>
>The steam loco has been converted to diesel. I have a newspaper cutting
>about it somewhere in my archives.
>
>When in Baroda, the person incharge of the train did complained that
>whenever the steam loco would konk out (which was very common)they had
to
>request and depend on the Indian Railways to carry on the repairs.
>
>About the gauge I'll have to refer my books.
>
>BTW did you enjoy your trip to Calcutta?
>
>Regards
>
>Viraf
>
>

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Does IR really have 610kms of route duplicated (BG and MG)?

Date: 01 Oct 1999 10:51:35 -0500


Have you any data on 'Gauntletted tracks' ? This is BG and MG on the
same permanent way. There is some in the NR. Many bridges are like that,
sharing the pathway.

Apurva

lwebber@planetmail.email wrote:

> My records show all these sections as being DUAL GAUGE (i.e. both
Broad Gauge and Metre Gauge). Is this correct (or are some just "under
conversion", or whatever)?
>
> NEFR
> New Bongaigaon-Fakiragram Jn.
> Mukuria-Alubari Road
>
> NER
> Lucknow Jn.-Daliganj Jn.
> Khagaria Jn.-Mansi Jn.
> Gorakhpur Cantonment-Gorakhpur Jn.
> Chhapra Jn.-Chhapra Kacheri
>
> NR
> Delhi Sarai Rohilla-Rewari Jn.
> Suratgarh Jn.-Sarupsar Jn.
>
> SCR
> Bellary Jn.-Guntakal Jn.
>
> SR
> Thanjavur Jn.-Ponmalai (Golden Rock) Jn.
> Madurai Jn.-Dindigul Jn.
> Cuddalore Port Jn.-Villupuram Jn.
>
> WR
> Sabarmati Jn.-Kalol Jn.
> Ambliyasan Jn.-Mahesana Jn.
> Chanderiya-Nimach
> Samakhiali Jn.-Gandhidham Jn.
>
> Any guidance appreciated. I have asked parts (but not all) of this
before.
>
> Regards to all
>
> Larry
>
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From: C. Zeni <>

Subject: Re: Does IR really have 610kms of route duplicated (BG and MG)?

Date: 01 Oct 1999 11:11:28 -0500


Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Have you any data on 'Gauntletted tracks' ? This is BG and MG on the
same permanent way. There is some in the NR. Many bridges are like that,
sharing the pathway.

Apurva,

Does the dual gauge trackage have three rails or four? Here, a track is
called Gauntlet if has four rails. The three rail set up is simply
considered dual gauge.
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Does IR really have 610kms of route duplicated (BG and MG)?

Date: 01 Oct 1999 11:46:28 -0500


>
> Does the dual gauge trackage have three rails or four? Here, a track
is
> called Gauntlet if has four rails. The three rail set up is simply
> considered dual gauge.
> --
>

Four rails, the MG and BG rails have different heights.

From: S.SRINIVAS <>

Subject: Re: KR electrification

Date: 01 Oct 1999 20:19:53 -0500


DEAR RAYMOND

THE SINGLE LINE SECTIONS WHICH ARE
ELECTRIFIED AND WHICH I KNOW OF ARE

1. GUDUR TO RENIGUNTA
2. VPM TO EGMORE (MG)

BOTH ARE BASICALLY FOR PASSENGER
TRAIN TRAFFIC.

WITH ELECTRIFICATION AND IMPROVED
SIGNALLING ARRANGEMENTS, YOU CAN
PRACTICALLY HAVE DOUBLE TRAIN
CAPACITY ON KR. AND, OF COURSE,
THROUGH RUNNING OF ELECTRIC LOCOS
FROM EKM (AFTER ELECTRIFICATION IS
COMPLETE) TO MUMBAI / AHMEDABAD /
NEW DELHI.

S. SRINIVAS

raymond/Polaris@polaris.email wrote:

> Dear Srinivas and gang,
>
> KR being a single line section - it does look doubtful. I wonder how
many
> non-freight / non-mining sections are electrified while still single
line. I
> suppose most the electrified sections are doubled. Gang, anybody with
a ready
> list of elec.single lines.
>
> Regards
>
> Raymond

From: S.SRINIVAS <>

Subject: Re: Park Trains

Date: 01 Oct 1999 20:20:15 -0500


HI PRADIP

WHAT VIRAF MEANS IS THAT THE STEAM LOCO HAS BEEN
REPLACED BY A NEW DIESEL LOCO. VIRAF - PLS. CONFIRM.

S. SRINIVAS
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Pradip613@aol.email wrote:

> In a message dated 9/30/99 2:51:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Viraf
writes :
>
> The steam loco has been converted to diesel. I have a newspaper
cutting
> about it somewhere in my archives.
>
> Question : How is a steam loco converted to diesel? What does it look
like
> after the conversion?
>
> Pradip Rao

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: Park Trains

Date: 01 Oct 1999 22:33:06 -0500




>Another good loco is what CLW made for their park. Scaled after WP but
with
>a obnoxious tall stack(again for the same reason

Unfortunately this is part of these trains. You have to do something
with
the smoke.
The one I ran, we had an extension stack with a bend in it to shoot the
smoke off to
the side - ugly but it worked.
We only used it when there wasn't any wind. Kansas is prairie, and
there's
usually a
fairly stiff breeze to keep the smoke traveling away except when going
directly up wind.

Annie

From: S.SRINIVAS <>

Subject: Re: Namaskar From India !!!!

Date: 01 Oct 1999 22:45:39 -0500


HELLO VIJAY

PLS SEE MY COMMENTS TO A FEW OF YOUR
POINTS OR QUESTIONS. REGARDS.

S. SRINIVAS

Vijay Balasubramanian wrote:

> >
> That's interesting news! Quite a few trains skip Pathankot and halt
at
> Chakki Bank, instead.
> Is Chakki Bank a suburb of Pathankot? Why the "Bank" at the end of
the
> name?

THE DADAR TO AMRITSAR EXP. WON'T GO ANYWHAERE NEAR PATHANKOT OR
CHAKKI
BANK. IT WILL TAKE
JALLANDHAR - BEAS - AMRITSAR ROUTE.

YES CHAKKI BANK IS JUST 3 KMS FROM PATHANKOT.
CHAKKI IS A SMALL RIVER. AND THE STATION IS
NAMED CHAKKI BANK. THERE IS A LOVELY GIRDER
ARCH BRIDGE THERE.

>

From: S.SRINIVAS <>

Subject: Re: Does IR really have 610kms of route duplicated (BG and MG)?

Date: 01 Oct 1999 22:45:55 -0500


DEAR APURVA AND OTHER RAILFANS,

MOST OF THE BG/MG LINES ARE A BG LINE AND A MG LINE
RUNNING PARALLEL TO EACH OTHER. SO TWO TRAINS
CAN RUN AT THE SAME TIME.

THE ONLY ONE CASE OF "GAUNTLETTED" TRACKS - WHICH
IS ACTUALLY THREE RAILS LAID ON THE SAME SLEEPER -
IS THE CANAL LOOP NEAR SURATGARH. MAYBE, EVEN
THIS MIGHT HAVE DISAPPEARED IN THE UNIGAGE SCHEME.

OF COURSE, WE FIND SUCH TRACKS AT MANY PLACES IN
THE STATION YARDS BUT THESE DO NOT RUN FROM ONE
RAILWAY STATION TO ANOTHER. BRIDGES ARE ALSO TO
BE EXCLUDED.

IN CASE OF A BG/MG MIXED LINE (GUANTLETTED), THE
THREE RAILS WILL BE OF BIGGER SIZE SUITABLE FOR BG.
I ALSO REMEMBER A MG/NG MIXED LINE IN BANGALORE
BETWEEN MALLESWARAM AND YESHAWANTPUR, WAY
BACK IN SIXTYS, WHICH WAS MADE UP OF THREE MG
RAILS. AFTER YPR, THE NG TRACKS WERE OF SMALLER
SIZE. THE NG LINE EXISTS NO MORE.

ALSO SEE BELOW AGAINST EACH ROUTE
WHICH IS BASED ON MY OWN INFO. OTHER MEMBERS
MAY GIVE THE DATA ON THE DUAL GAUGE LINES NOT
COVERED BY ME.

Apurva Bahadur wrote:

> Have you any data on 'Gauntletted tracks' ? This is BG and MG on the
same permanent way. There is some in the NR. Many bridges are like that,
sharing the pathway.
>
> Apurva
>
> lwebber@planetmail.email wrote:
>
> > My records show all these sections as being DUAL GAUGE (i.e. both
Broad Gauge and Metre Gauge). Is this correct (or are some just "under
conversion", or whatever)?
> >
> > NEFR
> > New Bongaigaon-Fakiragram Jn.
> > Mukuria-Alubari Road
> >
> > NER
> > Lucknow Jn.-Daliganj Jn.
> > Khagaria Jn.-Mansi Jn.
> > Gorakhpur Cantonment-Gorakhpur Jn.
> > Chhapra Jn.-Chhapra Kacheri
> >
> > NR
> > Delhi Sarai Rohilla-Rewari Jn. (TWO PARALLEL TRACKS)
> > Suratgarh Jn.-Sarupsar Jn. (GAUNTLETTED)
> >
> > SCR
> > Bellary Jn.-Guntakal Jn. (TWO PARALLEL TRACKS)
> >
> > SR
> > Thanjavur Jn.-Ponmalai (Golden Rock) Jn.(TWO PARALLEL TRACKS)
> > Madurai Jn.-Dindigul Jn.(TWO PARALLEL TRACKS)
> > Cuddalore Port Jn.-Villupuram Jn.(AS PER MY INFO - IT IS ONLY MG)

> > WR
> > Sabarmati Jn.-Kalol Jn.
> > Ambliyasan Jn.-Mahesana Jn.
> > Chanderiya-Nimach
> > Samakhiali Jn.-Gandhidham Jn.
> >
> > Any guidance appreciated. I have asked parts (but not all) of this
before.
> >
> > Regards to all
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
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From: HVC <>

Subject: Re: Route-kms on IR (Revised) - ALSO, Missing Distances!

Date: 01 Oct 1999 23:32:18 -0500


Dear Larry,


>ER/BG
>Sheakhala-Dankuni Jn-Andul Jn.

I would reckon it is Sealdah. Then Sealdah(0) - via Vivekananda
Bridge -Dankuni Jn(22 ) -Andul Jn.
If not, where is Sheakhala please?

>Damodar Jn.-Kalipahari

10.180 Km


Damodar - Kulti(15.107 Km). Pls see below.

Any rmaining questions on the Calsutta suburban? Circular railway
distances
however are not listed.

>SER/BG

>Rukni-Anara Jn.

8.25 Km

>Sanka-(7.050 Km)-Joychandipahar-(6.5 Km)-Garh Dhrubeswar

Adra - Anara(13.469). Pls recheck.

>Damodar Jn.-Kulti(15.107 Km) [ALSO - WHERE IS MOHUDA JN. (not Mahuda
Jn.)?]
Mohuda is not here. Sorry for the earlier error. Radhanagar 7 Km from
Damoder Jn. is the only station in between. The last on SER.
Mohuda is on Adra-Gomoh line earlier written as Mahuda.

>Bhandaridah-Rajabehra-Dugdawasrery-Jamuniatanr Halt
None of these is listed. Any idea where these are??


Raipur - Urkura avoiding R(5.270 Km) Pls recheck.

Daritala - Tiger Hill(10.533 Km) Pls recheck.

>Santragachi- 27.030 Km -Bargachia Jn.-Chanpadanga
Santragachi- 5.070 Km - Shalimar


Any more on SER?

Regards,

Harsh

From: shankar s. <>

Subject: pakistan railway website

Date: 02 Oct 1999 01:51:03 -0500



Hello,

Check out the latest development in Pakistan, the
Pakistan Railways OFFICIAL website:

<A HREF="http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/">http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/</A>

Needless to say, I shall provide a hyperlink to this
site on my 'neighbors' site as well.

Cheers.

Shankar

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From: shankar s <>

Subject: Re: [More About Pakistan Railway ???]

Date: 02 Oct 1999 01:56:22 -0500


Hello Sandeep,
Welcome aboard. I'm sure you'll enjoy being with us, and will learn a
good
deal about the IR and about oneself, as I have.
Thank you for your interest in my Pakistan Railway 'neighbors' website.
At the same time however, I must confess that I'm hardly an authority on
Pak.
Railways: I happened to put the site together merely because I had some
material on the subject. Fellow member Larry Russel was also kind enough
to
allow me to link my site to his Pak page.

Anyway, here is the url for Pak. Railways official website. You will get
answers to several of your questions here:

<A HREF="http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/">http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/</A>

I shall forward more urls as and when I come across them.

Cheers

Shankar




San-Ind <docqcs@nde.email wrote:
DEar Mr. Shankar,
Hello !

I'm Sandeep From New Delhi.... I'm a new one on IRFCA... I'd read yr'
e-mail & visited the Website about PAksitan Railway .....

CAn u provide me some more Info about this...... How many Express Trains
are running in Pakistan Now a Days...
Is there any Direct train between Paishawar & KArachi via
Multan-Mianwali
or via Faisalabad.......
Is there any Direct train between Paishawar & Quetta ???
Is there any Direct train between Lahore & ZAhedan(IRAN) via Bolan PAss
???

Hope u must give reply to my mail....

Regards

Sandeep Sharma



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From: Bharat Vohra <>

Subject: Single line electrification and more...

Date: 02 Oct 1999 02:14:24 -0500


Hi all,
I can add a few more to single lines that are electrified-
1. Anand-Godhra - AC (WR)
2. Bayana-Agra Fort - AC (WR)
3. Vasai-Diva - DC (CR)
4. Belapur-Panvel - DC (CR) [till doubling is complete]
5. Karjat-Khopoli - DC (CR)

Apurva....about your observations at Pune yard the other day....the
zebra
stripes on GS coaches...I had mentioned it earlier....I think the only
reason for painting them in this manner is a kind of standardisation
that IR
is carrying out...to differenciate GS coaches from the rest of the rake.

On another note...saw the Ahmedabad passenger yesterday on its way to
BDTS...new air braked rake and hauled by a WCAM2!!! I wonder why
passenger
trains are getting air braked rakes and not other long distance express
trains...especially on WR?

Regards,
Bharat


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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Single line electrification and more...

Date: 02 Oct 1999 02:24:46 -0500


> On another note...saw the Ahmedabad passenger yesterday on its way to
> BDTS...new air braked rake and hauled by a WCAM2!!! I wonder why
passenger
> trains are getting air braked rakes and not other long distance
express
> trains...especially on WR?

Every rake that goes a a POH will get air brakes. The rake is not new
only
repainted and fitted with air brakes, thoroughly refurbished of course.
Actually passenger rakes with air brakes is better as they have to make
frequent
stops and fast brakes release help the mail/ expresses behind them to
maintain
schedule. Imagine if the EMUs were to have vacuum brakes and had to wait
7
minutes per stop for the brakes to release :-)
Thanks for the info on the Zebra stripes.

Apurva

From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: IR links page

Date: 02 Oct 1999 03:34:11 -0500


Hello,
Check out the revised links page of my superrailway site with several
new links added.

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/superrlylinks.htm">http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/superrlylinks.htm</A>

Apurva, where is your list?

Cheers.

Shankar

From: shankar s. <>

Subject: Re: pakistan railway website

Date: 03 Oct 1999 00:58:45 -0500


Hello Appu,
Indeed, I agree with you. Its a typical, dry,
Government website.
For that matter, even our indianrailway.com site does
not have any railfan info., though the Yearbook always
has a last chapter on preserving railway heritage.

While on the subject, I really do not think the
concept of railway preservation exists in Pakistan.
I'd read a stray report somewhere about a proposal in
Pak for a railway museum or something, but little has
come out of it. THe only tourist oriented steam
excursion is on the Khyber pass (see the link at the
end of my 'neighbors' website).

Railway preservation and railfanning require a certain
degree of enlightenment, a certain degree of openness,
and an appreciation for the finer things in life.
Without making any loose remarks and risking the ire
of others, its indeed encouraging to see all these
aspects present in meraa bharat mahaan. Can you
believe it, though the nrm was inaugurated over 22
years ago, the idea for it was propounded as early as
in 1961?

I browse casually ever so often. There are so many ir
railfan sites out there: by corporate bodies, travel
companies, and of course individuals. I've not spotted
even a SINGLE Pak or Bangla railfan oriented site.
Just a few dry statistics, if at all. In the light of
all this, the Pak Railway official web site was quite
a surprise.

Several of our members might wonder why I'm into
making all these websites about Pak and bangla
railways and all.And then showcase them in this irfca
forum.

Bangla: well, just for curiosity sake. A refreshing
change of scene.

Pak: actually, curiosity alright. But historically,
Pak and IR were once almost one and the same. Remember
the NWR engines in the NRM? The massive XG, the ST
707, the MTR which once worked on the KArachi Port
Trust lines?
India once had TWO rack railways: the Nilgiri mg one
in the south, and a bg one near the Khyber (or is it
Bolan) pass in the NW. The latter passed on to
Pakistan.

I sometimes find it fascinating to look at the
enstranged half of the IR, and see what all they have
done after the split from India.

I'm proud to announce that everything appears very
BLEAK and promotive in comparison to good old IR!!

Cheers.

Shankar

--- Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email wrote:
> Does not seem to be any railfan related info on the
> Paki site.
>
> "shankar s." wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Check out the latest development in Pakistan, the
> > Pakistan Railways OFFICIAL website:
> >
> > <A HREF="http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/">http://www.pakrailway.gov.pk/</A>
> >
> > Needless to say, I shall provide a hyperlink to
> this
> > site on my 'neighbors' site as well.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Shankar
> >
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