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From: John Hinson <>

Subject: Re: Signal men out here?

Date: 08 Aug 1998 09:40:58 -0500


Well, I certainly am!

Unfortunately I am only here to learn, I don't have a fountain of
knowledge
on signalling in India.

Is anyone else interested in this important "aspect" of railway
operation?

John Hinson
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At 06:18 7.8.98 , you wrote:
>Hi all,
> Other than the locomotive and engine driving fans, is any body here
who
>is interested in signalling instruments?
> They also form a good part of the Railway network right?
>
>Bye,
>Sachin.
>
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From: Anurag Acharya <>

Subject: Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 10 Aug 1998 23:14:46 -0500




From: "dgoswami" <dgoswami@ad1.email
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:05:54 +0530

To,
Indian Railway Fan Club,

I came across your site on the internet by
accident but now treasure for what I have found.I would like to join
the IRFCA.I want to enquire about certain things concerning railways.

1. Some time back the BBC had broadcasted a series titled "Great
Railway Journeys".But I was unable to watch the series which I believe
must be very interesting.So if possible from where can I get video
cassettes of this series?

2. Are there any other videos on trains ? I am more interested in
videos of Indian trains.If there are any such films please name them.

3. I love collecting railway time-tables.I am interested in time-
tables dating back to 1940's and 50's.So if possible from where can I
get these time-tables?.

Once again I want to congratulate you all for your contibutions to the
site.The pictures of Indian trains are just marvelous.

I am looking forward for your reply and due to my
railway interests am hoping to be constantly be in touch with you.

Thankingly,

C.Goswami,
8/1938,Gopipura,
SURAT.(Gujarat)

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 11 Aug 1998 02:58:48 -0500


> 1. Some time back the BBC had broadcasted a series titled "Great
> Railway Journeys".But I was unable to watch the series which I believe
> must be very interesting.So if possible from where can I get video
> cassettes of this series?

The BBC is going to broadcast the second part in the series of The Great
Railway Journeys from either this comming Saturday or Sunday. The video
and the book of the same can be had from the bookshop in Bombay. Try
Nalanda at Taj.

> 2. Are there any other videos on trains ? I am more interested in
> videos of Indian trains.If there are any such films please name them.

There are plenty I'll send you the list.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 11 Aug 1998 04:05:56 -0500


Anurag Acharya wrote:

> From: "dgoswami" <dgoswami@ad1.email
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:05:54 +0530
>
> To,
> Indian Railway Fan Club,
>
> I came across your site on the internet by
> accident but now treasure for what I have found.I would like to join
> the IRFCA.I want to enquire about certain things concerning railways.
>

Welcome to the Indian Rail Crazy junta club !

> 1. Some time back the BBC had broadcasted a series titled "Great
> Railway Journeys".But I was unable to watch the series which I believe
> must be very interesting.So if possible from where can I get video
> cassettes of this series?

I have taped the series from TV, and can run a copy (ignore the
copyrite
issue for a while - we are enthusiasts here - had the originals been
available we would not have copied - right ?) if you send the blank
cassettes. I believe that some (pirate ?) cassettes are available in
the
larger video stores in India. National Geographic's 'I love trains' is
available everywhere.

>
>
> 2. Are there any other videos on trains ? I am more interested in
> videos of Indian trains.If there are any such films please name them.

Alas Alas !!I am however including a list of Indian films and TV serials
showing IR in action by a separate email.

>
>
> 3. I love collecting railway time-tables.I am interested in time-
> tables dating back to 1940's and 50's.So if possible from where can I
> get these time-tables?.

I have a sizable collection of time tables but none from those dates.
Let
us all know if you do come across a source of old time tables.

Please let us know in detail the railways scene (specially the freight
movement at Surat). Tell us about the suburban and short distance trains
around ST. What about the steam shed at Udhna ?


Apurva Bahadur

Pune India

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Up & Down

Date: 11 Aug 1998 04:19:38 -0500


Hi Gang !

It is not only the railways which follow the Up & Down nomenclature -
Buses also do. There is a listing of a new bus service in the Times of
India from Oshiwara (near Andheri) and Backbay reclamation (near
Churchgate) in Mumbai. Oshiwara to Backbay is referred to as Down. This
sense is reverse to the one that the Western Railway follow.

Apurva Bahadur

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: IR in Indian Films and TV

Date: 11 Aug 1998 07:01:05 -0500


Hi Gang,

I came across this article in the Indian Railway Mag of Feb - March 98. It is a list by Anirban Dasgupta about the IR in the Indian Films and TV. Go through it.

From: m.metz <>

Subject: Darjeeling Himalayan Railway Society

Date: 12 Aug 1998 12:09:58 -0500


Dear Indian Railway Fan Club of America,

I have just today been told of your existence and thought that I would
contact you to tell you about our society which was formed at the end of
last year.

We are the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway Society, keen to promote
awarenss
of, interest in and support for the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway. We
are
based in the UK but have a growing international membership, in the USA
as
well as Japan, New Zealand, Austria and India. Members (£10 UK, £17.50
outside the UK) receive four 28-page magazines a year, which include
articles about the line, the history of the Darjeeling area, members'
experiences of trips on the line, book reviews, letters etc... We have
also organised a trip to the line for members in February 1999, which
will
include a ride on the first-ever DHR charter train.

We are a relatively new society and would like to welcome as many new
members as we can. As Secretary, I wondered if there was any way in
which
news of our existence could be spread via your organisation. Perhaps
you
could contact me on the above e-mail address? I will be happy to send
some
membership leaflets to you, if appropriate, or provide information about
the DHRS in another way.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Marilyn Metz
Secretary, DHRS

From: Pushkar Apte <>

Subject: Detours

Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:50:22 -0500


This is a piece of trivia for time-table and routing buffs.

Often a train going from point A to B will take a detour - "the scenic
route :-)" - rather than the shortest -"as the crow flies" - route
available. Almost always, this is to serve important stations on the
longer ("scenic") route. I thought it was an interesting trivia
exercise to compile a few of these:

There are plenty of examples of a single detour, e.g. Golden Temple
(Frontier) Ml via Meerut (vs Panipat), Brahmaputra Ml via Malda (vs
Barauni), Ahmadabad-Bangalore Exp. via Manmad (vs Kalyan), Mumbai-Howrah
Mail via Allahabad (vs Nagpur), Kerala Exp via Reningunta (vs Konkan
Rail) etc... One may also count all the Howrah-North trains going via
the Patna main-line or the Sahibganj loop (vs the Gaya Grand chord).
The model I really like for these detours is the Poorva Express - two
trains with complementary detours - Varanasi and Patna so that both take
the exact same time bet. pts. Howrad-Delhi.

I can think of two trains that take TWO detours
1. Neelanchal Exp: (i) Lucknow-Varanasi and (ii) Hatia
2. Toofan Exp: (i) Patna and (ii) Agra

Finally, two trains that get the dubious distinction of THREE detours:
1. Himsagar Exp: (i) Jakhal-Dhuri (vs Panipat), (ii)
Ernakulam-Trivandrum (vs Madurai), and of course, (iii) the missing of
Konkan Rail. But I think Himsagar will be re-routed by Konkan Rail
soon, so it may leave this category. I have yet to realize the logic of
the Jakhal-Dhuri detour though - none of the trains from
Mumbai/Delhi/Howrah/Chennai take this detour - then why make the
Kanniyakumari train - of all trains - do it ???
2. The current Mumbai Kanniyakumari Express: Starting from Mumbai, it
first misses the huge Konkan Rail short-cut (i) at Diva. Then at
Guntakal, it misses the Krishnarajpuram-Salem one (ii). And finally at
Erode, it misses the Madurai short-cut (iii) to Kanyakumari.

As always, comments and discussion desired!

- Pushkar
-------

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: EMUs and Calcutta Suburban line

Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:37:59 -0500


Hey gang,

Strange as it may seem (because they are an acquired taste at best), I
need
as many pictures as I can get of suburban EMU trains, preferably in the
green and yellow colors of the Eastern Railway.

The reason is that I am planning a model of a station on the Calcutta
suburban line. Kalyani is my current choice because it is kind of a
junction
of sorts. For this, I hope to scratch-build at least one local train.

BTW, if anyone can think a better station on the Sealdah line for a
prototype, I'd love to hear your suggestions!

Thanks,
Shanku

P.S. And no, my model will not have faithful reproductions of the gutted
interior that is usually found in these trains. :)

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 12 Aug 1998 20:22:25 -0500



Hi Gang,

Good Morning, here Iam with the list of all the Indian railways (some
Pakistan too) Videos. Some of them are available here in Bombay
bookshops
as well as at India Hobby Centre (Marine Lines) and at a few Toy shops
which sell educative Video tapes (try Breach Candy area -Amarsons,
Roopsons, Benzer and The Cross Words).

But I get most of my tapes from London which my friend there orders from
any of these shops.

1. MIDLAND COUNTIES PUBLICATIONS.
EMAIL: midlandbooks@compuserve.email

2. MOTOR BOOKS.
EMAIL: motor_books@compuserve.email

3. THE SIGNAL BOX.
FAX: 0116 234 0401.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

THE LIST.
=========

1. ALCAZAR VIDEO:
Steam across the world - west & north India
Steam across the world - south India.

2. LINESIDE LOCATIONS:
Steam in Pakistan.

3. NICK LERA:
Relics of the Raj.- This tape has The Gaekwar Of Baroda State
Railway.
2'6" Western Railway N.G. network near Baroda.
B.G. steam in Bengal-WP, 0-6-0, HPS.
Bengal N.G. 2-4-0 Shantipur.
M.G. in Goa - Steam banking action in Ghat
section
on the British built 2-8-2.
Nilgiri Line
Lastly Annie hold your breath - The Patiala State
Monorail.

Rails to N.W.Frontier - Pakistan.

4. RAIL FILMS:
Indian steam sunset volumes 1,2 & 3.
Indus Express (Pakistan).

5. Roy Laverick:
Darjeeling.

6. Ray Freeman:
India volumes 1,2 & 3. Volume 1-North, Western & Central Railways.
Volume 2-South Eastern, South Central &
Southern Railways.

7. B.B.C.:
Great Railways - Flying Scotman. This tape has the introduction by
Mr.O.S.Nock and also features The
Romance Of Indian Railways narated
by Mr.Satow.(Founder of our National

Railway Museum - Delhi.)

Great Railway Journeys Of The World - India.

8. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC:
The Great Indian Railway.


The B.B.C. and the National Geog. tapes are available in Bombay.

GOOD NEWS.
----------
Switch on the N.Geog channel today at 7.30pm for The Great Indian
Railways. And B.B.C. on Sunday the 16th. at 5.30pm for the new episodes
of The Great Railway Journeys.


HAPPY VIEWING.

Viraf.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: D.G.Goswami <>

Subject: Reply to V.Desai

Date: 13 Aug 1998 09:04:37 -0500


Hi Mr.Desai,
You, as hailing from Surat will be pleased to know that
an Internet
server has been installed by VSNL in Surat from 1st July '98.So we can
get
connected to the internet via a local call.Regarding my e-mail add. we
had
an a/c with the Ahmedabad server before the service came to Surat.Then
we
had to dial Ahmedabad for the net.But now the Surat server has roaming
facility so I can access the Ahmedabad a/c via the Surat server.
So I have two e-mail addresses:
dgoswami@ad1.email (Ahd server)
dgoswami@bom6.email (Surat server)
Both of the above addresses are accessible by a local call.


C.Goswami

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Detours, Delhi-Bangalore, etc.

Date: 13 Aug 1998 09:28:25 -0500


>This is a piece of trivia for time-table and routing buffs.
>
>Often a train going from point A to B will take a detour - "the scenic
>route :-)" - rather than the shortest -"as the crow flies" - route
>available. Almost always, this is to serve important stations on the
>longer ("scenic") route. I thought it was an interesting trivia
>exercise to compile a few of these:

As long as there are multiple routes between A and B with atleast one
train using each route, this would be the case. What would be
interesting to observe is the comparative densities of traffic on the
"shortest" and other routes. Sometimes, the purpose of "serving
important stations" gets carried too far with the result that the
shortest route has none or less trains that the others. Here are a
couple of examples where this has been done to a ridiculous extent,
IMHO:

1) N.Delhi-Varanasi:

via Kanpur-Allahabad - shortest and has maximum high-speed
+electrified sections
only two trains: Poorva Exp. (via Janghai)
Lichchavi Exp. (via Madhosingh)
there used to be an Upper India Exp. which now goes only between
Mughalsarai and Sealdah.

via Kanpur-Lucknow - Patna Rajdhani Exp., Neelanchal Exp.,
Ganga Yamuna Exp.

via Moradabad-Lucknow - Kashi Vishwanath Exp., Sadbhavana Exp.,
Shramjeevi Exp.

In other words, a total of 6 trains use the longer routes vs 2 trains
on the shorter routes, so that Delhi can benefit by having connections
to more stations. It's crazy that the Patna Rajdhani Exp.
has been routed via Lucknow and actually ends up taking more time
between Patna and Delhi than the Poorva Exp., since the latter goes via
Allahabad-Mughalsarai.


2) Delhi-Bangalore:

The shortest route is via
Itarsi-Nagpur-Vijayawada-Gudur-Renigunta-Katpadi but there is NO TRAIN
via this route. This route is also COMPLETELY ELECTRIFIED and
double-tracked for a major portion.

The present three trains (Rajdhani, Karnataka and Swarna Jayanti) go

on single-line sections for a significant portion of their journeys. In

fact, the Bangalore Rajdhani would gain more than 2 hours if it were to
be routed via Vijayawada rather than Secunderabad.

At present, there is no train from Bangalore that serves stations
between Vijayawada and Kazipet (Khammam, Dornakal, etc.) Both the
Bangalore-bound trains from the north - Rajdhani Exp. and
Gorakhpur-Bangalore Exp. go via Kazipet-Secunderabad-Raichur-Guntakal.

It is interesting to trace the history of Delhi-Bangalore
connections. It all started with the Kerala-Karnataka Exp. (introduced
in 1978?) which employed the shortest route and bifurcated at
Jolarpettai. Within a few years, there were separate Karnataka and
Kerala Exps. with the Karnataka Exp. still using the shortest route. A
few years later, a weekly Nizamuddin-Bangalore Exp. via
Itarsi-Bhusaval-Manmad-Wadi-Guntakal was introduced. And then it was
decided to re-route the Karnataka Exp. via Secunderabad-Guntakal. This
was compensated by the introduction of a Nizamuddin-Bangalore Exp. via
Vijayawada which had an unusual halt pattern - skipped Gudur but halted
at Nellore, etc. So, there were three trains to Banglore at that time.

By the late 80s, both the Nizamuddin-Bangalore Exps. had disappeared
with the Karnataka Exp. using the route via Bhusaval-Wadi-Guntakal. The

Rajdhani Exp. replaced the old route of the Karnataka Exp. but the
Kazipet-Vijayawada-Jolarpettai section was "robbed" off its
Delhi-Bangalore train.

>
>I can think of two trains that take TWO detours
>1. Neelanchal Exp: (i) Lucknow-Varanasi and (ii) Hatia
>2. Toofan Exp: (i) Patna and (ii) Agra

Howrah-Gorakhpur Exp. via Varanasi: Patna instead of Gaya
Varanasi instead of Muzaffarpur

The Saryu-Yamuna Exp.: Lucknow-Shahganj-Mau-Bhatni-Chhapra instead of
Lucknow-Varanasi-Ballia-Chhapra
Lucknow-Chhapra instead of Kanpur-Varanasi


>Erode, it misses the Madurai short-cut (iii) to Kanyakumari.

How much does the Madurai short-cut reduce the run-time between Erode
and Nagercoil? It would be interesting to compare the run-times of
ngthe Mumbai-Nagercoil Exp. vs the Himsagar Exp. between these two
stations.


Another interesting situtation is where all the present routes serve as
detours because of the construction of a much shorter route that hasn't
been opened to traffic yet. This is the case with Raipur-Khurda Rd.-
both the routes via Raurkela-Kharagpur / Titlagarh-Vizianagaram are
detours compared to the new route via Sambhalpur-Talcher which will
become available once this line gets constructed.


On a final note, sometimes the longer route takes lesser time because of

higher speeds. For example, Vadodara-Jaipur via Ratlam-Kota is longer
than via Ahmedabad-Ajmer (can someone confirm this?) but takes lesser
time because it is almost completely doubled and electified and allows
higher speeds.


Regards,
Vijay

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From: Auroprem Kandaswami <>

Subject: SR to introduce new Express trains

Date: 13 Aug 1998 13:43:31 -0500



Courtesy: The Hindu
CHENNAI, Aug. 13.

The Southern Railway is introducing four new express trains and
three passenger services from August 15. This is in addition to
four specials to be pressed into service from Chennai to various
destinations.

The new express trains are: Bangalore-Vishakapatnam Weekly
Express, Tiruchi-Howrah Tri-weekly Express, Coimbatore- Rajkot
Weekly Express and Madurai-Coimbatore Express. The special
trains are the Chennai Central-Mysore Express, Central- Madurai
Express, Central-Tuticorin Express and Egmore-Tirunelveli
Express. The new passenger services are: the Tiruchi-Karur
passenger, Egmore- Villupuram Fast passenger and Madurai-Bodi
Fast passenger.

Releasing the time table, the Additional General Manager,
Mr.S.Gopalakrishnan, said the new services, including the
specials, would become operational from the Independence Day
except the Tiruchi-Howrah Express, the date of commencement of
which would be notified later. The specials to Madurai,
Tuticorin and Tirunelveli would be automatically cancelled after
the inauguration of the new broad gauge line from Chennai to
Dindigul via Villupuram and Tiruchi.

While the specials to Madurai and Tuticorin would run via Salem,
Erode, Karur and Dindigul, the Tirunelveli special would be via
Tiruchi, Karur and Dindigul, which would become operational
after the Tambaram-Tiruchi new BG line is ready for traffic.

Mr.Gopalakrishnan said for the convenience of passengers from
Coimbatore, who had lost direct service to many northern centres
after the inauguration of the Konkan Railway, a new weekly
express would run from Coimbatore to Rajkot and a daily express
between Kurla and Bangalore. Apart from this, a day express
would be introduced between Coimbatore and Madurai in the metre
gauge section via Dindigul, Palani and Pollachi with a running
time of about four and a half hours.

Referring to the reintroduction of express trains via chord line
which were now either cancelled or diverted via main line due to
the gauge conversion work, he said the Pallavan and the Rockfort
Expresses would start running after the completion of the
Tambaram-Tiruchi BG conversion. The rest of the trains, namely,
the Vaigai Express, Pandiyan Express, Pearl City Express and
Nellai Express would become operational when the Tiruchi-
Dindigul BG conversion is over.

Mr.Sudir Chandra, Chief Administration Manager, in charge of
projects, who was present, said while the work between Tambaram
and Tiruchi would be over by this month-end, the
Tiruchi-Dindigul conversion would take another six months. To
facilitate the Tiruchi-Dindigul BG conversion the traffic in the
section would be closed from August 15.

Mr.Gopalakrishnan said major changes had been effected in the
timings of 14 express trains on the broad gauge while
reorganisation had been done in respect of some of the mail and
express trains in the metre gauge section.

The speed of three long distance trains to New Delhi from
Chennai - the Rajdhani Express, Tamil Nadu Express, and the
Grand Trunk Express and the Kerala Express from Trivandrum to
New Delhi had been increased to cut the running time by one hour.

For the convenience of tourists and residents of the Nilgiris,
two new pairs of trains were being introduced between
Mettupalayam and Udagamandalam, one in the morning and the other
in the afternoon, he added.

***

From: Auroprem Kandaswami <>

Subject: Six new trains from tomorrow

Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:09:23 -0500



Courtesy: The Hindu
NEW DELHI, Aug. 13.

As per the announcements made during presentation of this year's
Railway Budget, six new trains would be flagged off on
Independence Day, according to an official press release.

These are Guntur-Secunderabad Express, Madurai-Coimbatore
Express, Jodhpur-Ahmedabad Intercity Express, Jorhat-Guwahati
Express, Bhubaneshwar-Rourkela Express via Sambalpur and
Talcher- Sambalpur Express.

In addition, the run of two trains would be extended and the
frequency of three other trains is being increased.

From August 15, Mangalore-Palghat Express would be extended to
Tiruchi and Kurla-Bangalore Express to Coimbatore.

The Nagercoil-Mumbai (Chatrapati Shivaji Terminal) would run
four days instead of the present three, Kurla-Darbhanga Express
would be extended to three from two days and Marudhar Express
will run daily four days a week.

***

From: Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 13 Aug 1998 17:07:07 -0500


To Viraf and everyone,
Re buying videos: I had considerable difficulties with Motor Books a
couple of years back: they cocked up an order and simply would not reply
to
letters requesting a response. I finally had to use contacts in an
English
hobby magazine to "lean" on them. I now call them "Motor Crooks" and I
do
not deal with them. The basic problem is that they do not check
shipments
properly before sending them. They also do not invoice orders
separately,
so, especially if you are getting stuff by surface mail, you just don't
know
if it is coming or not. ALWAYS get a separate invoice, by air mail,
whoever
you're dealing with -- it makes for peace of mind!
Timetablers should note that numerous U.K. s/h booksellers deal in
old
timetables -- mostly British, of course -- and contacting them should
help.
Finally, does anyone know of any reliable Indian secondhand book
dealers who specialise in (or even handle!) railway materials. I have
quite
a list of obscure books and pamphlets I'm after, but have trouble
sourcing
them in Britain and Australia. At least one bookseller I have enquired
of
simply never replied.
Cheers
Ken Walker

-----Original Message-----
From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <sncf@godrejnet.email
To: Anurag Acharya <acha@cs.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email apte@spdc.email
<apte@spdc.email dgoswami@ad1.email <dgoswami@ad1.email
vivekp@ihug.email <vivekp@ihug.email anniepoo@netmagic.email
<anniepoo@netmagic.email
Date: Thursday, 13 August 1998 1:31
Subject: Re: fwd: where to get rail videos and timetables?


>
>Hi Gang,
>
>Good Morning, here Iam with the list of all the Indian railways (some
>Pakistan too) Videos. Some of them are available here in Bombay
bookshops
>as well as at India Hobby Centre (Marine Lines) and at a few Toy shops
>which sell educative Video tapes (try Breach Candy area -Amarsons,
>Roopsons, Benzer and The Cross Words).
>
>But I get most of my tapes from London which my friend there orders
from
>any of these shops.
>
>1. MIDLAND COUNTIES PUBLICATIONS.
> EMAIL: midlandbooks@compuserve.email
>
>2. MOTOR BOOKS.
> EMAIL: motor_books@compuserve.email
>
>3. THE SIGNAL BOX.
> FAX: 0116 234 0401.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
> THE LIST.
> =========
>
>1. ALCAZAR VIDEO:
> Steam across the world - west & north India
> Steam across the world - south India.
>
>2. LINESIDE LOCATIONS:
> Steam in Pakistan.
>
>3. NICK LERA:
> Relics of the Raj.- This tape has The Gaekwar Of Baroda State
Railway.
> 2'6" Western Railway N.G. network near Baroda.
> B.G. steam in Bengal-WP, 0-6-0, HPS.
> Bengal N.G. 2-4-0 Shantipur.
> M.G. in Goa - Steam banking action in Ghat
section
> on the British built 2-8-2.
> Nilgiri Line
> Lastly Annie hold your breath - The Patiala
State
> Monorail.
>
> Rails to N.W.Frontier - Pakistan.
>
>4. RAIL FILMS:
> Indian steam sunset volumes 1,2 & 3.
> Indus Express (Pakistan).
>
>5. Roy Laverick:
> Darjeeling.
>
>6. Ray Freeman:
> India volumes 1,2 & 3. Volume 1-North, Western & Central Railways.
> Volume 2-South Eastern, South Central &
> Southern Railways.
>
>7. B.B.C.:
> Great Railways - Flying Scotman. This tape has the introduction by
> Mr.O.S.Nock and also features The
> Romance Of Indian Railways narated
> by Mr.Satow.(Founder of our
National
> Railway Museum - Delhi.)
>
> Great Railway Journeys Of The World - India.
>
>8. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC:
> The Great Indian Railway.
>
>
>The B.B.C. and the National Geog. tapes are available in Bombay.
>
>GOOD NEWS.
>----------
>Switch on the N.Geog channel today at 7.30pm for The Great Indian
>Railways. And B.B.C. on Sunday the 16th. at 5.30pm for the new episodes
>of The Great Railway Journeys.
>
>
>HAPPY VIEWING.
>
>Viraf.
>
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From: Shrinivas Bhatwadekar <>

Subject: Western Rly. to procure Train Management System -- Newspaper Reports

Date: 13 Aug 1998 22:13:46 -0500


Hi All,

Western Railway is going have Train Management System, the first of its
kind on Indian Railways for Churchgate-Virar suburban section.

Here are some newspaper reports on the subject .

-- Shrinivas

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Courtesy : Free Press Journal dated 23.7.98

TRAIN MANGEMENT SYSTEM SIGNED FOR WR'S SUBURB SECTION
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Mumbai : A train management system(TMS) for Western Railway's suburban
section from Churchgate to Virar would become operational within next
two years, according to A. K. Chopra, Chief Signal and Telecom
Engineer of Western Railways, reports PTI.

Addressing the media, Chopra said the scheme envisaged 'real-time
display' of movements of all suburban trains at the central control at
Mumbai Central on a rear video projection panel.

In addition, the controllers would have video monitors in front of
them, where they could instantaneously zoom on any section/station
affected in case of any untoward incident, he said.

The Rs. 28.10 Crore contract was awarded to M/s ABB Daimler-Benz
Transportation(india) Ltd,Vadodara on July 14 last.

Chopra said the TMS was also expected to assist railways in crew
management,time tabling, rake link planning besides generating various
management information system reported for optimum system performance.

The project would also provide for mobile communication between
motormen and guards, between suburban trains and the central control
at Mumbai Central.

Chopra said the TMS would enable controllers to ascertain the exact
cause of train hold-ups as well as inform the motormen of following
trains about likely delays."Motormen in turn could keep the on-board
passengers informed through the public address system which is already
installed in the suburban trains", he said explaining how this project
took several years to come to this stage as there were several
technical hurdles.

Chopra said of special interest to the commuters would be the
real-time updating of train indicators all along the suburban stations
from central server located at Mumbai Central.

Presently, the train indicators only display the time tabled timings
of suburban trains.

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Courtesy : Express Newsline dated 23.7.98

WR's FAST-TRACK PLAN FOR EASY RIDE
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In a bid to make life a wee bit easiler for city commuters who seem to
spend one half of their existence waiting on platforms or in trains,
the Western Railway(WR) has embarked on an ambitious Train Management
System.This project envisages a 10 metre video projector panel at the
central control room at Mumbai Central to display the movement of
trains at any point of time.

The controllers will also have video monitors to zoom in on any
station or section in case of untoward incidents.The WR has signed a
deal with ABB Daimler-Benz Transportation(India) Ltd for the Rs. 28.10
Crore project, which is expected to be complete in two years.The
project will also enable mobile communication between the train,
stations and control room.This will aid the controllers in knowing the
exact nature of damage and warn train drivers who are following the
local."Lack of communication has been the main drawback of the
system.Hopefully, this project will rectify the defect," said Chief
Systems and Telecom Engineer AK Chopra.Optical fibres needed for
transmission of messages from stations to control rooms and back have
already been laid between Chuchgate and Virar."The trains will be
fitted with Very High Frequency radios to send messages to control
rooms and also inform passengers", added Chopra.Video indicators will
be placed at stations to display the time a train is actually expected
to reach the station."At present the indicators only display the train
times as per the timetable, and commuters are at a loss to know what
time the train will actually reach the station", said Chopra.

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Jhakal Dhuri Diversion

Date: 14 Aug 1998 01:23:31 -0500


Hi Gang,

Following the thread of possible diversions of trains with great interest:
 

I had worked out the distance traveled by the Kanyakumari - Jammu Himsagar Exp (which is supposed to be the longest run in India) vs Trivandrum Guwahati Exp (which is the second longest run). I feel actually the TVC - GHY  express is the longest run by 40 Kms or so. The CAPE - JAT Exp. would have been the longest had it taken the main line via Panipat rather than Jhakhal Dhuri shortcut. The findings need to be verified with an accurate timetable.
One real long diversion is the 2627 Karnatak Express which uses single line - non electrified track between Guntakal and Manmad via Daund rather than via Renigunta - Katpadi as Vijay has suggested.
Bangalore Rajdhani also curiously uses the dieselised line just before Wadi to get to Secunderabad .

Apurva Bahadur

From: Iain A Fraser <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 14 Aug 1998 01:54:07 -0500


Hi

We have material coming through from India and from the East African
asian community albeit irregular but....
Videos...happy to obtain them for you if you wish, I dont stock them but
can get them.
Let me know if I can help

Cheers

Iain
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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Six new trains from tomorrow

Date: 14 Aug 1998 06:22:33 -0500



> As per the announcements made during presentation of this year's
> Railway Budget, six new trains would be flagged off on
> Independence Day, according to an official press release.

How about the other eight new trains in the budget?
How long do we have to wait before they introduce the Kurla -
Howrah/Nagpur deluxe trains? I am also interested in the Kurla-Varanasi

Exp. and am hoping that it would turn out to be a superfast train.

>
> These are Guntur-Secunderabad Express, Madurai-Coimbatore
> Express, Jodhpur-Ahmedabad Intercity Express, Jorhat-Guwahati
> Express, Bhubaneshwar-Rourkela Express via Sambalpur and
> Talcher- Sambalpur Express.

This indicates that the Marwar-Jodhpur conversion and the new
Sambhalpur-Talcher link have been completed and opened to traffic. We
can now expect a Mumbai Central-Ahmedabad-Jodhpur-Bikaner Exp. Also,
the Kalinga-Utkal Exp. and the Ahmedabad-Puri Exp. should start using
the new Sambhalpur-Talcher link to get to Cuttack and Puri.

BTW, are the new time-tables now available for public?

Vijay


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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 14 Aug 1998 09:31:56 -0500


Thanks for providing this list, Viraf.

>4. RAIL FILMS:
> Indian steam sunset volumes 1,2 & 3.
> Indus Express (Pakistan).

Is this pretty much about steam locos. or does it cover other aspects of

IR and show other locos., trains, stations, etc.?


>6. Ray Freeman:
> India volumes 1,2 & 3. Volume 1-North, Western & Central
>Railways.
> Volume 2-South Eastern, South Central &
> Southern Railways.

I am intrigued by this one and may want to purchase it. What does it
cover? Does it have good shots of diesel/elec. locos., trains,
stations, etc?


>GOOD NEWS.
>----------
>Switch on the N.Geog channel today at 7.30pm for The Great Indian
>Railways. And B.B.C. on Sunday the 16th. at 5.30pm for the new
>episodes of The Great Railway Journeys.

Are there any other episodes on India besides the one by Brian Thompson?

Vijay
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