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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Details from Rediff

Date: 31 Jul 1998 08:23:33 -0500


More trains to run via Goa
Central Railway has announced that the 6333/6334
Rajkot-Trivandrum-Rajkot Weekly Express, the 6335/6336
Gandhidham-Nagercoil-Gandhidham Weekly Express and the 6337/6338
Rajkot-Cochin-Rajkot Weekly Express will now run on the Konkan Railway.

The journey for each of these trains will be eight to 10 hours shorter.

In effect, it will now be possible to travel from the important towns of

Gujarat -- Rajkot, Baroda, Ahmedabad, Surat, Gandhidham -- to Goa
directly.


6333 Dn Rajkot-Trivandrum Weekly Express will depart from Rajkot on
Saturdays at 0700 hours, reach Panvel at 2255 hours and reach Trivandrum

at 0500 hours on Mondays. In the reverse direction 6334 Up
Trivandrum-Rajkot Weekly Express will depart from Trivandrum at 1410
hours on Wednesdays, reach Panvel at 2015 hours on Thursdays and reach
Rajkot at 1415 hours on Thursdays.

6335 Dn Gandhidham-Nagercoil Weekly Express will depart from Gandhidham
onSundays at 0520 hours, reach Panvel at 2255 hours and reach Nagercoil
at 0655 hours on Tuesdays. In the reverse direction 6336 Up
Nagercoil-Gandhidham Weekly Express will depart from Nagercoil at 1200
hours on Thursdays, reach Panvel at 2015 hours on Fridays and reach
Gandhidham at 1530 hours on Fridays.

6337 Dn Rajkot-Cochin Weekly Express will depart from Rajkot on Mondays
at 0700 hours, reach Panvel at 2255 hours and reach Cochin at 2345 hours

on Tuesdays. In the reverse direction 6338 Up Cochin-Rajkot Weekly
Express will depart from Cochin at 1830 hours on Fridays, reach Panvel
at 2015 hours on Saturdays and Rajkot at 1415 hours on Saturdays.
Reservations for this train are available at all reservation centres
connected to the Bombay passenger reservation system.



------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

Special to Coimbatore

A special train will run from Kurla Terminus, Bombay, to Coimbatore on
August 13. 163 Dn will depart from Kurla at 2020 hours and arrive in
Coimbatore at 0205 on August 15.

This train will stop at Kalyan, Lonavla, Pune, Solapur, Gulbarga,
Shahabad, Wadi, Nalwar, Yadgir, Raichur, Mantralayam Road, Adoni,
Guntakal, Gooty, Anantapur, Dharmavaram, Hindupur, Krishnarajapuram,
Bangarapet Junction, Hruppattur, Salem, Erode, Tirupur before it pulls
into Coimbatore.

This train will have 17 coaches, including one AC three tier
compartment, one AC two tier compartment, ten sleeper class compartments

and five general second class compartments.

Reservations for this train are available at all reservation centres
connected to the Bombay passenger reservation system.



------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

An extension

The Central Railway has extended the 1013/1014 Kurla-Bangalore-Kurla
Express upto Coimbatore from August 15.

But there will be no change in arrival or departure timings between
Kurla and Bangalore in both directions.

The timings and halts between Bangalore and Coimbatore are:

Departure from Kurla Terminus at 2205 hours.
It arrives in Bangalore at 2300 hours (there is no change in departure
and arrival times and halts between Kurla and Bangalore).
Arrives in Hosur at 0015 hours.
Arrives in Dharamapuri at 0832 hours.
Arrives in Salem Junction at 0355 hours.
Arrives in Erode at 0510 hours.
Arrives in Tirupur at 0600 hours.
Arrives in Coimbatore at 0720 hours.
The timings and halts between Coimbatore and Bangalore are:


Departure from Coimbatore at 0430 hours.
Arrives in Tirupur at 0515 hours.
Arrives in Erode at 0605 hours.
Arrives in Salem Junction at 0710 hours.
Arrives in Dharamapuri at 0830 hours.
Arrives in Hosur at 1000 hours.
Arrives in Bangalore at 1112 hours.
Arrives in Kurla at 1235 hours (there is no change in departure and
arrival times and halts between Bangalore and Kurla).
Reservations for this train are available at all reservation centres
connected to the Bombay passenger reservation system.



------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

More cool seats

From August 1, Central Railway will attach one more AC chair car to
1401/1402 Bombay-Manmad Panchavati Express, increasing the AC capacity
by 70 seats.

Reservations for this train are available at all reservation centres
connected to the Bombay passenger reservation system.



------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

I am curious about the special Mumbai-Coimbatore train on Aug. 13.
Seems to me that this is being done to set-up the rake to start from the

Coimbatore end on Aug. 15. Earlier, the Kurla-Bangalore train had a 12
hr. layover in Bangalore so that the rake arriving at Bangalore could be

used the next afternoon. However, the departure from Coimbatore is well

before the arrival, requiring an additional rake - this is also being
fulfilled by this special train.

What is puzzling, though, is the choice of route via K'puram-Bangarapet
instead of Hosur-Dharmapuri. Why is that? Is it because they don't
want the train to arrive earlier at Coimbatore? Or is it an just an
experiment to determine traffic requirements?

Vijay

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From: Steven Brown <>

Subject: Re: Query-supported time-table page

Date: 31 Jul 1998 09:57:10 -0500


Here's another active timetable page:
<A HREF="http://www.mumbainet.com/travel/railtime.htm">http://www.mumbainet.com/travel/railtime.htm</A>
In addition to the previously mentioned
><A HREF="http://businesstourism.com/train.html">http://businesstourism.com/train.html</A> site. This one also has bugs but
it's
an interesting approach to the problem.

Also Apurva Bahadur has scanned some timetable pages which are now
available
at <A HREF="http://www.trainweb.com/indiarail/ttable.htm">http://www.trainweb.com/indiarail/ttable.htm</A>
I am interested in peoples reaction to timetables in this form.

Regards, Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: Vijay Balasubramanian <vijay_642@hotmail.email
To: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 9:40 AM
Subject: Query-supported time-table page


>Hi Folks,
>
> Check this page out:
>
><A HREF="http://businesstourism.com/train.html">http://businesstourism.com/train.html</A>
>
> Search results are displayed through queries on the source,
>destination, train name and no. I wonder how large and current their
>database is. I was particularly interested in their summer specials
>since some of these may be converted to regular trains. For example,
>the following is their description of the Kurla-Varanasi special:
>
>**************************************************
>>From
> Mumbai Kurla - Bombay
>
>
>Kurla Varanasi Special •
> Train No.
> 141
>
>Destination Varanasi
> Thane, Kalyan, Igatpuri, Nasik, Manmad, Bhusaval, Itarsi, Jabalpur,
>Satna, Allahabad, Janghal, Bhadohi, Varanasi
>Departure Time
> 0030
>
>Via
> Nasik Road
>
>Departure Days
> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
>
>
>
> 9 Sleeper, 1 Reserved II, 5 General II,2 General II Ladies
>
>************************************************
>
> The halt pattern is rather skewed. Too many halts in the
>Mumbai-Bhusaval and Allahabad-Varanasi stretches and a decent run
>between Bhusaval and Allahabad (ignores Khandwa and Katni among
others).
>
>Vijay
>
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From: Vdate <>

Subject: Re: WDM2 triple header

Date: 31 Jul 1998 17:38:45 -0500


I always thought that the "L" stood for live and the sign indicated that
the
last carriage carried passengers. Probably does not contribute a whole
lot to
accident prevention now compared to the days when trains ran at 20mph.

From: BSR SHARMA <>

Subject: Re: LV board

Date: 31 Jul 1998 18:18:53 -0500


> could I ask whether "LV" stands for Last Vehicle,
and >what form these plates take?

I think LV stands for Last Van or Last Vehicle.
It is a bright red steel disk (12" dia ?) with LV
painted in bold white with a connector at the back.
All cars have a hook to mount this on. The night time
equivalent of this is a red tail light; a kerosene
lamp many years back but mostly electric now. LV
board and tail lamps are used to confirm to a
pass-through station's station master who stands
watching a train pass with a green flag or lamp (but
can show danger (red) if he fails to see LV or tail
light) that the train is "complete" i.e. it did not
"part" in the previous "block section"

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WDM2 triple header

Date: 01 Aug 1998 01:12:54 -0500




John Hinson wrote:

> Not being very knowledgeable on Indian railway operations, but keen to
> learn, could I ask whether "LV" stands for Last Vehicle, and what form
> these plates take?

LV indeed is Last Vehicle, it is a round red coloured plate on the rear
buffers
of a train. Even light engines carry this plate when traveling on the
main
line. But come to think of it, there are number of sightings without
that
plate. At every station, the station master is supposed to check the
physical
presence of this plate, meaning that the train has arrived intact.
Absence of
this plate means that the load has parted and this is an emergency
situation as
per the rulebook. But the triple headed goods, definitely had no LV
plate on
the rear. I could photograph this plate and upload it soon.

Apurva

>
>
> Also, in the UK trains may run without brake van if the automatic
brake is
> operable on all wagons (in fact all trains are now thus) perhaps the
> arrangements in India are similar? That doesn't excuse the lack of LV
plate
> though . . .
>
> John Hinson
>
> <A HREF="http://trainweb.com/signalbox/">http://trainweb.com/signalbox/</A>
>
> At 12:42 30.7.98 , you wrote:
> <snip>
> No brake van at the end as is the norm with the short
> >haul freighters. The train lacked even a LV sign at the rear, which I
> >feel is the legal minimum for any train. Even light locomotives
> >traveling by themselves between stations have a 'LV' board at their
> >rear buffer.
> <snip>
> >Apurva Bahadur
> >

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Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:28:05 -0500


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Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:26:47 -0500


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From: Srikant Subramaniam <>

Subject: Political compulsions? :-)

Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:34:10 -0500


Train to halt at Kuppam

Chennai: The Lal Bagh Express between Chennai Central and
Bangalore will henceforth stop at Kuppam in Andhra Pradesh in both
directions, a Southern Railway release here said.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: WCAM 3 details

Date: 06 Aug 1998 06:34:50 -0500


Hello dear friends ,

What has happened to all of you and your regular mails ? I have been with the IRFCA from May 98 and there was never a day without a post. Traffic seems very thin lately.
I had a hard disk crash - okay,  there was an unknown virus that began eating my files. I was living dangerously. I had anti viral software running but the bug was not detected. Anyway all I can say is I must (and so must all of my friends) stay away from hacker's sites which offer passwords and stuff (what is warez ?) That is most likely source of the infection.

Now about railways.

 I have just returned from the Pune station - the new time tables are not out yet - the book store on Platform 1 told me that they will be out only in September. I will keep checking periodically and keep you all informed.

There are five new 3 tier air conditioned coached which are in the 'sick wagon' siding. I think they are part of the new Jhelum Exp rake. There are five Jhelum Exp rakes required to run between Pune and Jammu Tawi.

I also had a chat with the driver of a WCAM 3 AC / DC loco to understand why the two bar DC pantograph is lowered when the loco is coupled. The procedure is do  with the changing of the cabs. Whenever the cab is changed the panto must be lowered. the design is like that - that is all the driver could explain.
I went inside the cab of the loco and was impressed by the finish. Even the dashboard had nicely curved sheet metal sections and reasonable ergonomics. The small control wheel has a separate large round electrical gauge which points to the notch position. The loco can be driven with the single bar 'AC' panto in the DC section but the panto selector lever must be put in the emergency position. There is no Alt DC and Alt AC positions as in the WCAM 1 & 2 of the Western Railways. The loco has a nicely laid out controls including a small lever with five positions for field weakning. Horn levers are recessed in a cavity under the dash. The A9 and SA 9 brake levers are of different size and operate in different planes. On the whole the front visibility is excellent and this loco would be the favorite of footplaters. There are over 60 locos in the Mumbai division and they work all the mail/ express and passenger links. Some goods trains are also being worked by these locos. The pillar between the windshields houses the Hassler recording speedometer. A very impressive cab layout.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Political compulsions? :-)

Date: 06 Aug 1998 06:39:34 -0500




Srikant Subramaniam wrote:

> Train to halt at Kuppam

Sorry for the dumb question, but what is the political about Kuppam ?

Apurva

>
>
> Chennai: The Lal Bagh Express between Chennai Central and
> Bangalore will henceforth stop at Kuppam in Andhra Pradesh in both
> directions, a Southern Railway release here said.

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Thin traffic

Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:22:36 -0500


Well, Apurva - ya want to increase traffic here, yah gotta post some
more pictures!

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Thin traffic

Date: 06 Aug 1998 10:41:04 -0500


Sob Sob,

The blasted virus wiped out my hard disk ! All the work is gone, it will
have to be redone. Like all clever people I did not back up by webpages.
I backed my regular (cash earning) work though. I will come with
pictures from my last trip to Daund very soon.

Apurva

Anne Ogborn wrote:

> Well, Apurva - ya want to increase traffic here, yah gotta post some
> more pictures!

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: WCAM 3 details

Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:48:33 -0500



Hi Appu,

Yes Appu I agree with you. Everything seems to be sleek and in place
with
the WCM 3 cab but you forgot the driver's seat. From the drivers point
of
view this is this most uncomfortable loco to drive.The driver can't fit
in
his legs and have to keep them sideways. Even the asst. driver has
better
comfortable seating. For the footplater this is a good loco to ride in
but
I miss the WCM1 and WCM2.

==========================
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Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: Shrinivas Bhatwadekar <>

Subject: Re: Political compulsions? :-)

Date: 06 Aug 1998 21:08:15 -0500


Apurva Bahadur <iti@giaspn01.email wrote:
>
> Srikant Subramaniam wrote:
>
> > Train to halt at Kuppam
>
> Sorry for the dumb question, but what is the political about Kuppam ?
>
> Apurva

Hello Apurva,

One interesting thing about Kuppam .This is the only station on
Madras Central( Chennail Central ?)-Bangalore City route that is
neither in Tamilnadu nor in Karnataka, but it's in Andhra Pradesh !!

-- Shrinivas



>
> >
> >
> > Chennai: The Lal Bagh Express between Chennai Central and
> > Bangalore will henceforth stop at Kuppam in Andhra Pradesh in both
> > directions, a Southern Railway release here said.
>
>
>
>

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From: Sachin P Keshavan <>

Subject: Signal men out here?

Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:18:25 -0500


Hi all,
Other than the locomotive and engine driving fans, is any body here who

is interested in signalling instruments?
They also form a good part of the Railway network right?

Bye,
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From: dheeraj <>

Subject: Timetable.

Date: 06 Aug 1998 23:48:05 -0500



There was a short news item in a local newspaper which said
that timing of 42 trains at Kanpur Central has changed in
the new timetable from 5 minutes to 15 minutes. So, perhaps
the new timetable has come into force. But it also said
that there are additional coaches in couple of trains (e.g.,
Magadh) from 15th August. So maybe the new timetable is
also from 15th August. But there is no copy available at
Kanpur Central station yet.

-dheeraj

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Political compulsions? :-)

Date: 07 Aug 1998 00:32:21 -0500




Shrinivas Bhatwadekar wrote:

> Apurva Bahadur <iti@giaspn01.email wrote:
> >
> > Srikant Subramaniam wrote:
> >
> > > Train to halt at Kuppam
> >
> > Sorry for the dumb question, but what is the political about Kuppam
?
> >
> > Apurva
>
> Hello Apurva,
>
> One interesting thing about Kuppam .This is the only station on
> Madras Central( Chennail Central ?)-Bangalore City route that is
> neither in Tamilnadu nor in Karnataka, but it's in Andhra Pradesh !!
>
> -- Shrinivas

Which still does not answer the question about the political compulsion
about Kuppam. Dhaulpur on the Bhopal - New Delhi section is like Kuppam.
While the train changes borders between Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh
Dhaulpur sits on a small projecting finger of the Rajastan state.

Apurva

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From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: August IRFC meet

Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:21:47 -0500


Hey folks - I've changed computers for getting email.
Would people drop me a line if you want to find out about the
S. Bay IRFC meetings? That way I won't miss anybody.

And if you're on this list, live in the SF bay area, and don't know
about the S. Bay IRFC chapter, certainly email me!

Aaaanyway - we oughtta start organizing the second one.
Sanjiv suggested we railfan - there was some discussion of Jack London
Sq.
We might consider the SPCRR, they're in Fremont.

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Annie even has an Indian RR related reason for this - I'm interested in
the PSMT monorail, so I'm interested in animal power for RR's.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Pune Mumbai chapter of IRFCA meets at Karjat

Date: 08 Aug 1998 01:53:54 -0500


Let us do it now Gang , the SF bay chapter is close to doing their
second one in a short time. We have not done it even once. Decide - 6th
or 13th September 1998, location: Karjat. Please respond to me (outside
the mailing list) immediately about convenient dates. Please invite and
bring along other nuts even of they are not on the internet. Please also
consider yourself invited if you live in Pune, Mumbai or anywhere else
and would like to attend and your name is not listed above.

Apurva Bahadur

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