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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WAM 1/ WAG 1

Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:14:26 -0500




Anne Ogborn wrote:

> > > bogie for that loco was the same as the WDM 2.
> > Masterstroke of engineering economy, that, on the part
> > of IR. Nearest model bogie would be, as Annie mentioned
> > some time ago, those from a F-M Trainmaster or an Alco
> > PA diesel. Wonder if it is worth modifying her DB181
> > to accept these, even if technically possible....
> > >Does the side buffer really make such a difference in the ride of a
> > >passenger train ?
>
> I'm a bit confused now. You're saying WAM2 and WDM2 have the
> same truck?

WAM 4 and WDM 2 share the bogie design.

> But the WDM2 has outside equalizers, and the WAM2
> pic Shanku just posted a link to doesn't!

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: Query for Annie: WAM2 model

Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:15:44 -0500


> Which reminds me: Annie; after you settle the
> question of gauge in 1:87 HO scale, what stock are
> you planning to run ? Also, what couplers does your
> Roco DB181 have ? A set of Kadee knuckles while
> retaining the side buffers would be prototypical.
> IR motive power offers the fairly unique sight
> of central knuckles with side buffers.
>

If I end up using 5/8" gauge (which both HO and OO use),
I'll use normal European manufacture stock, which is available here.
If I use an odd gage, I'll have to modify the rolling stock
for it.

As for couplers, I guess kadee knuckle couplers and
buffers is the solution. I've got metal buffer castings.

The 181 has had it's buffers removed. They used the hole
left where the buffer was pulled for a small cap screw
that holds a metal plate that holds the kadee.
I'll have to rework this.

certainly the 181 is too narrow anyway - IR locos hang over more
than european ones do, and IR gage is wider.

From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Re: Annie: WAM2 model

Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:43:19 -0500


> If I end up using 5/8" gauge (which both HO and OO use)
Seems to be underscale even for US/Euro standard gauge.
Used to be a somewhat idiosyncratic scale in the US called
"American OO", which used 19mm gauge track (closest to
1:87 scale Indian broad gauge !). Don't think it's
made any more though. Does British EM scale have any
commercial support ? 19mm gauge track again, I think.
I'll check a few references.
> I'll use normal European manufacture stock, which is available here.
Hmm. If you get hold of some British-type two-axle goods
vans, it may be possible to simulate IR stock out of it.
For passenger stock, let's see, US coaches are actually
closer, as they have deeper panelling over the windows.
Need to add buffers, and paint them accordingly......
> As for couplers, I guess kadee knuckle couplers and
> buffers is the solution. I've got metal buffer castings.
The only thing that worries me here is the possiblity
of "buffer lock" on layouts with tight curves. I think
Marklin couplers allow close-coupling buffered stock
without this happening, but Kadees for US prototypes
had no problem because buffers are not involved.
> certainly the 181 is too narrow anyway - IR locos hang over more
> than european ones do, and IR gage is wider.
If you cut the side skirts as on the WAM2, the DB181 will
visually widen out to some extent. I don't know if you can
raise the bottom line of the windshield as on the WAM2, but
the addition of a windshield grille, cowcatcher and painting
the buffer beam red should make the thing look wider without
the need to chop up the bodyshell.

Anyway, sounds like a lot of fun. Happy building !

--
Jayant S : ID Studio : Tata Technologies India Limited
Telco Premises : Pimpri : PUNE : 411 018 : INDIA
TEL 91(20)702534 : FAX 91(20)773191
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WAM 1/ WAG 1

Date: 10 Mar 1999 02:59:37 -0500


> > bogie for that loco was the same as the WDM 2.
> Masterstroke of engineering economy, that, on the part
> of IR.

The WDG 2 bogie is same as the one used on the WCAM 3s, this I have seen
at Pune Jn. Some AC locos must be also using this new design of (high
adhesion ?) bogie. The real genius of engineering economy is the
standardisation of bridge girders and the various types of points/
switches.

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Some trivia

Date: 10 Mar 1999 03:17:06 -0500


From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: New Shatabdi

Date: 10 Mar 1999 03:31:22 -0500




> I was thinking about the viability of extending the Mumbai-Pune
Shatabdi
> Exp. to Solapur, atleast, on some days of the week. Is there enough
traffic
> from Solapur to justify such an extension? The journey could be
covered in
> 7 hrs. 15 mts. - so a daytime Shatabdi service is possible.

A good train in the day from PA to SUR is must. Either Shatabadi or
even an
Indrayani / Pragati type of rake. The IR does not seem to realise that
atleast
200 buses leave for SUR everyday round the clock as there is no
convenient train
and yes, the train would be faster than the road. Much safer too ! The
usual
excuse is that Pune division lacks any real decision making powers. Also
there
is no place to stable more rakes at Pune. The only day train from PA to
SUR is
the 6529 Udyan Express.

>
>
> Vijay

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: STOP PRESS!

Date: 10 Mar 1999 03:49:52 -0500


My friend did mention that earlier 2813 was to go but since Wankaner
powers
are more battered(as you earlier mentioned), 2805 was choosen finally.
2813
has indeed worked at Sabarmati and Jetalsar before arriving at
Wankaner.

Iam sure he would be very thrilled if this was going to UK which is home
country.

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
To: Harsh Vardhan <hvc@vsnl.email
Cc: Donald L. Mills, Jr <dmills@MARSHALL.email Dipl.-Ing. Nikolaus
Sbarounis
<sbaros@excite.email India Rail Fan Page <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: STOP PRESS!


>While we were in Wankaner between the 9th and 12th of Jan
>1999, we did see the
>YP 2813 which was supposed to be exported to UK (not USA). I
>am quite sure about
>the loco number as this was the ex Sabarmati power that Viraf
>and Sarosh footplated
>on an earlier trip, although I am not sure about the final
>destination of the
>loco.
>
>Apurva
>
>Harsh Vardhan wrote:
>
>> These locos are syill in India awaiting some cosmetic work. Will pass
on
any
>> news received about their destination. Loco No.s are YP 2250 and 2805
which
>> were seen last in a fairly good shape.
>>
>> Iam not certain if these will actually be run in the USA or just
plinthed.
>> But laying new tracks I suppose is hardly a job compared to importing
a
>> locomotive.
>>
>> Harsh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Donald L. Mills, Jr <dmills@MARSHALL.email
>> To: Harsh Vardhan <hvc@vsnl.email
>> Cc: India Rail Fan Page <irfca@cs.email
>> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 7:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: STOP PRESS!
>>
>> >Harsh or Anyone,
>> >Does anyone know where these engines are coming in the US. This
might
be
>> >my only was of seeing one of these in person. I also want to see
them
>> >before the Touist Railroad renumbers or redoes any part of the
engines.
>> >Don in West Virginia
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From: Harsh Vardhan <champa@del3.email
>> >To: VIRAF P.. MULLA <sncf@godrej.email Indian Railway Fan Club
Association
>> ><irfca@cs.email
>> >Subject: STOP PRESS!
>> >Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 7:58 AM
>> >
>> > STEAM UPDATE
>> >
>> >Wankaner is the last bastion of steam on IR on the normal passenger
>> >services(non mountain/tourist section).
>> >
>> >Steam workings have finished in Jetalsar and Mhow recently as
reported
by a
>> >traveller(Can anyone else confirm this).
>> >
>> >Two YP(numbers not clear) locomotives from Wankaner are to go to USA
for
>> >working tourist specials by preservation groups(destinations
unknown).
>> >
>> >YG 3724 from Wankaner has been transferred to Rewari as surplus
power
for
>> >`Royal Orient'.
>> >
>> >Harsh
>> >
>> >
>
>

From: Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath <>

Subject: Re: Annie: WAM2 model

Date: 10 Mar 1999 05:53:29 -0500


Dear Jayant, Annie, and Apurva,
Could I weigh in a little on the scale/gauge/commercial
availability
issue for Indian models bodged from currently available commercial
stuff?
Firstly, NO UK four-wheel wagons resemble Indian standard all-steel
wagons and vans. Most of these are in 4mm (1:76) scale, but would still
be
smaller than the Indian BG size in HO! (An Indian C van is 23ft 6ins
long --
82.25mm in HO) while a 4mm scale 17ft 6in English van would be only
70mm!
The C van has a 15ft wheelbase, but most English commercial underframes
would be for 10ft wheelbase -- 40mm -- not 52.5mm. Worse still, Indian
wagon underframe design diverged from British around 1900, and existing
UK
designs are not very close. (You might just get away with post-war BR
standard types, but these are not available RTR as far as I know). Most
English freight stock was wooden until the 1950s, whereas the only
wooden
stock built in India after about 1890 was during WWI when steel was
unavailable.
Second, Annie's query re gauges for 4mm scale. There are currently
three in use for SG models: 16.5mm (British OO, = Annie's 5/8" gauge),
18.2mm (EM) and 18.83mm (P4).
The last is finescale only (the English equivalent of ¼AAR or P87).
Ready-made track is available for all three gauges. Better still, track
components -- FB rail in codes 75, 80, and 100, BH rail in code 75 --
plus
chairs/baseplates, sleepers, and other components, are available from
Peco
and C&L. That means you can build track to any gauge you choose, within
reason! (Other rail sizes are also available commercially, down to Code
40,
and with copperclad Paxolin -- PC board -- sleepers great variety is
possible.) EM basically uses standard British OO components, including
BRMSB wheels (similar but not identical to US RP25-110) pushed out to
the
wider gauge. P4 uses exact scale wheels scaled from BS 276.
I model in 4mm finescale (P4), and use 10mm, 13.12, and 22mm
gauges
for 2ft 6in NG, MG, and BG respectively. As I noted in a recent posting,
another attractive option would be 3mm scale using 16,5mm, 9mm, and
6.5mm
gauges for BG, MG, and NG. Mechanisms from TT, HOe (HOn2½) and Z gauges
could be used.
Jayant, I'm not sure US coaching stock would do very well for
Indian:
the loading gauge is larger, so that in 3.5mm scale, they'd be oversize.
Also, they don't look very like Indian ones. I looked at this issue long
and
hard some years back, and opted for scratch building in styrene, with
some
semi-mass production where multiple vehicles were needed. In this
country, a
number of small producers are using polyurethane cast in RTV silicone
rubber
moulds. It is good for short runs, and I produced some masters for
London
Transport EMU stock last year, from which I was able to have some
castings
made with great success. I would suggest that if some of you lads could
get
together, something like this would be a very good idea. But you'll need
to
get a consensus on scale and gauge! I'm thinking of tooling up myself,
almost certainly in 4mm scale, aiming at the UK market, and beginning
with
narrow-gauge prototypes (the Poms are crazy about NG). But don't hold
your
breath. A couple of UK manufacturers are threatening Indian NG loco kits
in
4mm scale, too; but they've been doing it for rather a long time now.
Kadee couplers are very popular here in Australia; even the
English-prototype modellers use them. I rate them (along with many
other
modellers!) as one of the best types commercially available. There are
special Kadee versions for use with buffered stock. Buffer locking is
only a
problem if clearances are too tight or there is excessive slop between
vehicle and track -- careful adjustment of coupler protrusion on your
tightest curve would soon establish a workable norm. You could try
sprung
buffers, too: components are available in 4mm scale on the UK market.
Apurva, "knuckle" couplers with side buffers are not at all rare.
Nearly all English colonial systems were awarded chain/screw couplers
and
side buffers by their proud creators (we even had them on 3ft 6in guage
in
Queensland!) and nearly every system has had to go through the same
transition process the IR is currently experiencing. Even the design of
transition couplers doesn't vary much!
Happy modelling, all. I'm back to getting the Barfi Light ready
for
the May show.
Ken Walker

-----Original Message-----
From: Jayant S <sank@telco.email
To: IR List <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, 10 March 1999 8:06
Subject: Re: Annie: WAM2 model


>> If I end up using 5/8" gauge (which both HO and OO use)
>Seems to be underscale even for US/Euro standard gauge.
>Used to be a somewhat idiosyncratic scale in the US called
>"American OO", which used 19mm gauge track (closest to
>1:87 scale Indian broad gauge !). Don't think it's
>made any more though. Does British EM scale have any
>commercial support ? 19mm gauge track again, I think.
>I'll check a few references.
>> I'll use normal European manufacture stock, which is available here.
>Hmm. If you get hold of some British-type two-axle goods
>vans, it may be possible to simulate IR stock out of it.
>For passenger stock, let's see, US coaches are actually
>closer, as they have deeper panelling over the windows.
>Need to add buffers, and paint them accordingly......
>> As for couplers, I guess kadee knuckle couplers and
>> buffers is the solution. I've got metal buffer castings.
>The only thing that worries me here is the possiblity
>of "buffer lock" on layouts with tight curves. I think
>Marklin couplers allow close-coupling buffered stock
>without this happening, but Kadees for US prototypes
>had no problem because buffers are not involved.
>> certainly the 181 is too narrow anyway - IR locos hang over more
>> than european ones do, and IR gage is wider.
>If you cut the side skirts as on the WAM2, the DB181 will
>visually widen out to some extent. I don't know if you can
>raise the bottom line of the windshield as on the WAM2, but
>the addition of a windshield grille, cowcatcher and painting
>the buffer beam red should make the thing look wider without
>the need to chop up the bodyshell.
>
>Anyway, sounds like a lot of fun. Happy building !
>
>--
>Jayant S : ID Studio : Tata Technologies India Limited
>Telco Premises : Pimpri : PUNE : 411 018 : INDIA
>TEL 91(20)702534 : FAX 91(20)773191
>--
>

From: ranand <>

Subject: Monomotor bogies (and question on photography)

Date: 10 Mar 1999 06:28:02 -0500


Monomotor bogies are very commonly used in French electric locos. I have
not
seen them used in electric locos anywhere else. I believe that the early
WAMs
were of French origin, hence the design.

I am off to Madras and Hyderabad this Saturday. I plan to spend some
time
train
spotting at least at either Secunderabad or Madras Central (and possibly
take a
trip on the diesel local trains around Secunderabad). How safe is
photography
there or will I need to get a permit?

Anand

Internet: anand@watson.email
External tel: (914) 784 7054
Notes: Rangachari Anand/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
Tie-line: 863 7054

From: Dheeraj Sanghi <>

Subject: Rail models.

Date: 10 Mar 1999 06:29:48 -0500



Hi folks,

I have with me here a gentleman named Mr. S K Mahajan, who
manufactures steam loco models. He has brought with him three
models, for DHR loco, Fairy Queen, and B-26. All three are
very nicely done. DHR loco is 1:40 scale. FQ is 1:66 scale, and
B-26 is 1:70. I am quite impressed with the models, and have
already bought one. The models are on wood board, in glass case.

He supplies these models to NRM also. The price of each model
is only Rs. 800 at Dehradun. (postage & handling may be separate)

If you want more information on this, you may contact him
directly at the following address:

Mr. S K Mahajan
152, Chuckuwala, Dehradun - 248 001
Tel: (0135) 657013.

Of course you can buy them from NRM, and also from a gift
shop in CP (Giggle's shop in E block.)

(I hope you won't mind this advertisement on the list. I was
quite impressed with the model, and I thought some of you
may be interested.)

Thanks,

-dheeraj
--------------
Dr. Dheeraj Sanghi (0512) 59-7077/7638
(Off)
Dept. of Computer Science & Engineering (0512) 59-8627 (Res)
Indian Institute of Technology (0512) 59-0725/0413
(Fax)
Kanpur - 208 016 (UP), INDIA. dheeraj@iitk.email
Home Page: <A HREF="http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj">http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj</A>

From: prakash <>

Subject: Amtrak introduces high speed trains

Date: 10 Mar 1999 07:13:46 -0500




Folks,

Amtrak announced yesterday about mew high speed trains
in North Eastern corridor. The URL is:
<A HREF="http://www.amtrak.com/news/pr/atk9936.html">http://www.amtrak.com/news/pr/atk9936.html</A>

For technical specifications, please look at:
<A HREF="http://www.transportation.bombardier.com/htmen/A3B.htm">http://www.transportation.bombardier.com/htmen/A3B.htm</A>

Prakash

From: SEMCO-INDIA/ NEERAJ KUMAR SINGAL <>

Subject: Re: WAM 1/ WAG 1

Date: 10 Mar 1999 09:09:15 -0500


Dear fans,
I want to get information from where to acquire Meter Guage locos of
2300 HP (aproxx).
Only One I know is DLW Varanai.
Can some suggest from where GM locos can be found.
Please reply at
nksingal@hotmail.email

Regards
NEERAJ kUMAR

NEERAJ KUMAR SINGAL,
SYSTEMS & EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE CO.,
NKS GROUP OF COS.,
G-82, 1ST FLOOR, LAXMI NAGAR,
VIKAS MARG, DELHI -110092 India
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FAX:- 91-11-2206538
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From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: WAM2 Model

Date: 10 Mar 1999 10:00:34 -0500


Anne Ogborn wrote:

> Yes, I think with the WAM2 we've found a prototype. I take it the
> WAM2 has the "pointy" nose like the 181, not a flat "shovel" nose?
> (that is, the two halves of the windscreen don't lie in the same
plane).

The WAM2 does have a very slight pointy nose. I have uploaded another
detailed picture at
<A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images/WAM2_front.jpg">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images/WAM2_front.jpg</A>
that shows the front in detail. I still have another WAM2 picture to
scan
and upload, that of a blue and black loco, No. 20317, heading a
passenger.

> The body looks straightforward - create a form from a hardwood
> or lucite block, vacuum form the final body over it. Although
> the existing body's not far off. Only need to change the side louvers.

One interesting note is that the WAM2 has two different side louvre
arrangements - one side of the loco has three equaly spaced windows, the
other side has only two. Look at the two images (the one above and the
one
at <A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images/WAM2.jpg)">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images/WAM2.jpg)</A> and you will
see
the difference.

> Does anyone know how long a WAM2 is?

According to Daboo's book, the WAM2 has a length of 15m. This,
incidentally,
seems to make it the shortest BG electric locomotive in IR's roster -
the
WAM1 is listed as being 15.892m. The WAM2 is used pretty well
exclusively on
ER. There were only 36 made, all between 1960 and 1964.

> Are WAM1 units still in service?

WAM1 units are very much in service, at least on ER. I saw a couple of
fairly newly painted ones at Asansol shed, and I saw at least two runs
of
the Sealdah-Lalgola Passenger being headed by a WAM1. Interestingly,
this
train has to change to diesel at Ranaghat (it used to change to steam in
the
80s), and some of the runs are usually just headed by a WDM2 (often a
jumbo)
straight from Sealdah.

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Amtrak introduces high speed trains

Date: 10 Mar 1999 11:21:23 -0500


Saw this on the local news, yesterday. It mentioned that the max. speed
between Boston and New York would be 160 mph. The rake would use
tilting bogies (similar to what I have noticed on the British ICE
trains) so that the train would not have to slow down at curves.
Traction poles are already in place on a large portion of the Boston -
New Haven line.

Vijay
>

From: D.G.Goswami <>

Subject: Re: booking speed

Date: 10 Mar 1999 18:03:39 -0500



-----Original Message-----
From: D.G.Goswami <dgoswami@bom6.email
To:
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:11 AM
Subject: booking speed


Hi gang,
I got a working TT of WR of Mumbai division.In
it the booking speed of all the trains on the BCT-virar section is 95
kmph.But the Rajdhani,A.K.Raj and the ADI Shatabdi are booked at just 70
kmph on this section.I could not understand this thing bcoz even humble
trains like the Valsad fast passenger are booked at 95.Could someone
explain
why these superfasts are run at slower speeds in suburban Bombay ?

And also,IR has introduced Swarna Jayanti Expresses on
quite
a few routes.Which type of trains are these? Are they fully A/C like the
Rajdhanis or partially A/C like the Frontier & the Paschim or fully
sleeper
class like the Janata Expresses.


Chinmay Goswami,
Surat
>
>
>
>
>

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: More pictures

Date: 10 Mar 1999 20:35:12 -0500


Although I have not had a chance to complete the report on Asansol
station
yet, the pictures from this series are now available, including a couple
of
pictures of a plinthed BK class steam loco from Asansol station. Also, I
have uploaded the missing pictures in the Asansol shed series.
Thumbnails
are not available for these pictures yet.

To view the pictures, you can go to the Asansol page at
<A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/asansol.html">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/asansol.html</A>
and click on an image to open the image gallery, then use the right
arrow
button to scroll forward through the available images. Or, if you don't
have
a Javascript-enabled browser, or wish to see the whole list of images,
go to

<A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images_all.html">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images_all.html</A>

The next batch will be from the Howrah-Kulti trip, including a picture
of a
plinthed E.I.R. CS class locomotive from Fairlie place (including
close-up
views of the interior), several passing shots of goods trains, and a
close-up frontal shot of a WAP5 heading the Bhubaneswar Raj through
Durgapur
station.

Enjoy!

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: query

Date: 10 Mar 1999 22:13:10 -0500


Dear Vinayakaraman,

I am taking the liberty of putting up your query on the Indian Railway
Fan
Club Association (IRFCA), which is an Internet mailing list. Maybe one
of
our members could help you with your query. As a railway enthusiast the
more
the smoke, the better the loco. But I guess that is not the objective of
your study :-).
To subscribe to the IRFCA, please check out the instructions on my index
page:
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
I wonder why the letters anal (in words like 'analysis' you dirty minded
lot) are missing in Vinayakaraman's mail ?

Apurva

vinayakaraman sankaranarayanan wrote:

> sir, i am a final year b.e. mechanical student doing a project on the
> study of tests on diesel locos.
> i am doing this project in the central workshops southern railway
> india.
> i need informations on the method of ysing the exhaust gas
> analyses[especially oxygen content yses] ,of the railway engine of
> the horsepower of the range of 2500.
> oxygen yses of the exhaust will help me to yse the extent
of
> buring in the engine cylinder.
> sir,will you please send me the necessary informations?
> yours faithfully,
> vinayakaraman
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: booking speed

Date: 11 Mar 1999 00:12:55 -0500


> Hi gang,
> I got a working TT of WR of Mumbai division.In
> it the booking speed of all the trains on the BCT-virar section is 95
> kmph.But the Rajdhani,A.K.Raj and the ADI Shatabdi are booked at just
70
> kmph on this section.I could not understand this thing bcoz even
humble
> trains like the Valsad fast passenger are booked at 95.Could someone
explain
> why these superfasts are run at slower speeds in suburban Bombay ?

Heavier weight of the AC (55 tonnes per coach) rake of the Rajdhani and
Shatabdi
over the Naigaon bridge ?

> And also,IR has introduced Swarna Jayanti Expresses on
quite
> a few routes.Which type of trains are these? Are they fully A/C like
the
> Rajdhanis or partially A/C like the Frontier & the Paschim or fully
sleeper
> class like the Janata Expresses.

They are ordinary rakes, two SLRs, couple of AC II sleepers and one
general
coach, it is the occasion of celebration rather than a special type of
train.
The livery is quite distinctive with Red, cream and Blue bands. If I am
not
mistaken, no Swaran Jayanti is a daily train.

Apurva

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: WDM2 vs. WDM2a

Date: 11 Mar 1999 00:28:01 -0500


Can someone enlighten me what the differences in appearance
are between the WDM2 and the WDM2a?

At long last, I'm finally getting started on the WDM2.

I've a problem with Ken Walker's 1:76 suggestion.
I don't have 1:76 sideframes available. I have 1:87 sideframes.

While I could make sideframes for this project, that wouldn't
solve the larger problem of sideframes in general.

One other objection to 1:76 - it's noticably bigger than HO,
and few Indian homes have any extra space in them.

If I build it in 1:87, that gives me a gauge of 19.2mm
It also has the advantage that I can buy parts like horns
and MU receptacles.

So, it looks like good old HO for me.

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: query

Date: 11 Mar 1999 00:30:36 -0500


You can do this by using an on-line or portable flue gas analyser. It
will
give you the measure of CO2 %, CO% and O2%. There are charts to
determine
the efficiency of the engine through these results.
There are several manufacturers of these analysers and you commonly see
these with pollution control authorities as well.
A good digital portable flue gas analyser is made by Forbes Marshall of
Pune
and it costs about 25,000 Rs. It also has direct measurement of
efficiency
calculations built-in.
Trust this will suffice.

Harsh


-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
To: vinayakaraman sankaranarayanan <vinayakaraman_s@hotmail.email IRFCA
<irfca@cs.email
Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: query


>Dear Vinayakaraman,
>
>I am taking the liberty of putting up your query on the Indian Railway
Fan
>Club Association (IRFCA), which is an Internet mailing list. Maybe one
of
>our members could help you with your query. As a railway enthusiast the
more
>the smoke, the better the loco. But I guess that is not the objective
of
>your study :-).
>To subscribe to the IRFCA, please check out the instructions on my
index
>page:
><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
>I wonder why the letters anal (in words like 'analysis' you dirty
minded
>lot) are missing in Vinayakaraman's mail ?
>
>Apurva
>
>vinayakaraman sankaranarayanan wrote:
>
>> sir, i am a final year b.e. mechanical student doing a project on the
>> study of tests on diesel locos.
>> i am doing this project in the central workshops southern railway
>> india.
>> i need informations on the method of ysing the exhaust gas
>> analyses[especially oxygen content yses] ,of the railway engine
of
>> the horsepower of the range of 2500.
>> oxygen yses of the exhaust will help me to yse the extent
of
>> buring in the engine cylinder.
>> sir,will you please send me the necessary informations?
>> yours faithfully,
>> vinayakaraman
>> Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>
>
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