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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Computer Simulation of Indian Railways

Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:05:49 -0500


> Seriously though, volunteers to help with checking accuracy of input
data
> would be useful. No programming skills needed, just access to
bradshaws etc.

Hi Freddy,

Let me know where to start, I have most of the regional time tables
(other than
SC and NR for 1997-98), which are much better and more authentic than
Bradshaw.
Let me know if you are short of any specific info and I will try to
look it up.

I feel that the time tables should be presented as tables and the reader
should
make the decision. I do hardly any travel in proportion to the time
tables I
read. They are for mental traveling where fancy takes me. The thorough
knowledge
of a time table comes from incessant browsing, while the interactive
time table
on the internet will give only limited answers specifically for people
seeking
'real' travel information. Am I getting across ? I (and I am sure a lot
of the
timetable readers out there) read the book for the pleasure of it. I
would like
to make out a difference between information required to travel and the
information just for the pleasure of reading the timetable. Hence the
traditional
time table with which you interact with a map and spend many happy hours
is also
a necessity on the net and we should plan for both. My initial endeavor
was to make the common information available on the net.
Let me know your reactions.

> PS: Does anyone know if Udhampur-Srinagar-Baramula is "serious"?

I think the trains are already running to Udhampur, at least military
and freight
are. There was some article in the Indian Railway mag which showed some
tunnel
being dug in that sector. I will upload it for you as soon as I find it
again.
The section being tackled today are mild, the real difficulty is way
ahead. I had
been to Srinagar way back in 1980 and there was no trouble of any kind
you see
today, still the locals referred going south of Jammu as 'Going to
India'. The
success of any rail line lies in the loyalty of the locals. Look at
Konkan
railways, there is no danger of life to the people manning the line,
neither of
sabotage. The Konkani people are quite proud of the fact that the KR
runs near
them. But the 'Kashmir Railway', if I may coin the term, is another
story. I
personally doubt whether Srinagar will ever be on the railway map.

Apurva Bahadur

From: Prakash Tendulkar <>

Subject: Re: IRFCA member meet

Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:08:44 -0500


Annie,

I am just 60 miles from you, not a long distance in California.
It may be a good idea to meet once in a while. Dheeraj was in
South Bay last year and I had an opportunity to meet this
wonderful person.

I am working (officially) part-time this month, travelling and
enjoying sun but will return by the end of the month.

And yes, I have not forgotten to make a copy of my video on Indian
Railways for you. I need some time to catch up with the backlog.

Prakash

Notes Address: Prakash Tendulkar/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS
VM Address: IBMUSM50(PRAKASH)
Internet Address: prakash@us.email
Phone: (408)463-3536
DB2 Technical Consultant, Vendor Partnership Program



anniepoo@netmagic.email on 07/01/98 03:54:00 AM
Please respond to anniepoo@netmagic.email
To: irfca@cs.email
cc:
Subject: IRFCA member meet


Are there enough IRFCA members in the SF Bay area for us to meet?

From: fca <>

Subject: Re: Computer Simulation of Indian Railways

Date: 01 Jul 1998 13:21:16 -0500


At 22:35 01/07/98 +0530, you wrote:
>> Seriously though, volunteers to help with checking accuracy of input
data
>> would be useful. No programming skills needed, just access to
bradshaws
etc.
>
>Hi Freddy,
>
>Let me know where to start, I have most of the regional time tables
>(other than
>SC and NR for 1997-98), which are much better and more authentic than
>Bradshaw.

Great. Many thanks. I will email you shortly with a file of
station-station distances *that I have not been able to get from a
timetable* (either because the data was missing or my regional timetable
is
out-of-date and a place is new or that the original information is
clearly
wrong). There are about 250 of these, I warn you!

Anyone else, please? (I will email Prakash separately)

Kind Regards

Freddy




*=========================================================*
| 1. Thirteen thirteens are one hundred and seventy nine. |
| 2. Thirteen thirteens is one hundred and seventy nine. |
| 3. None of the above two statements are correct. |
| |
| Q: Are any of the above three statements correct? |
| A: No. Maths is bad in 1 & 2, and "None" is singular. |
*=========================================================*

From: Steven Brown <>

Subject: Re: IRFCA member meet SF BAY Area

Date: 01 Jul 1998 19:10:58 -0500


Count me in, I live in Union City about half way between San Francisco
and
San Jose. Who else is out there?

Steve Brown
able@ricochet.email
<A HREF="http://trainweb.com/indiarail">http://trainweb.com/indiarail</A>

-----Original Message-----
From: Prakash Tendulkar <prakash@us.email
To: anniepoo@netmagic.email <anniepoo@netmagic.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: IRFCA member meet


Annie,

I am just 60 miles from you, not a long distance in California.
It may be a good idea to meet once in a while. Dheeraj was in
South Bay last year and I had an opportunity to meet this
wonderful person.

I am working (officially) part-time this month, travelling and
enjoying sun but will return by the end of the month.

And yes, I have not forgotten to make a copy of my video on Indian
Railways for you. I need some time to catch up with the backlog.

Prakash

Notes Address: Prakash Tendulkar/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS
VM Address: IBMUSM50(PRAKASH)
Internet Address: prakash@us.email
Phone: (408)463-3536
DB2 Technical Consultant, Vendor Partnership Program



anniepoo@netmagic.email on 07/01/98 03:54:00 AM
Please respond to anniepoo@netmagic.email
To: irfca@cs.email
cc:
Subject: IRFCA member meet


Are there enough IRFCA members in the SF Bay area for us to meet?

From: poras p.saklatwalla <>

Subject: Re: Computer Simulation of Indian Railways

Date: 01 Jul 1998 20:15:17 -0500


yyyyyyOn Wed, 1 Jul 1998 fca@accountant.email wrote:

> Dear folk
>
> Further to my earlier post, I'd like to clarify that the desired end
result
> of my project is not *just* an electronic timetable but a visual
simulation
> of all major IR trains (on a digital map), available to run in real
time or
> at any speed-up factor. The problem of late-running trains will be
> ignored, naturally - or perhaps programmed in on a random basis!
>
> Seriously though, volunteers to help with checking accuracy of input
data
> would be useful. No programming skills needed, just access to
bradshaws etc.
>
> Kind regards
>
> fca
>
> PS: Does anyone know if Udhampur-Srinagar-Baramula is "serious"?
>
> *=========================================================*
> | 1. Thirteen thirteens are one hundred and seventy nine. |
> | 2. Thirteen thirteens is one hundred and seventy nine. |
> | 3. None of the above two statements are correct. |
> | |
> | Q: Are any of the above three statements correct? |
> | A: No. Maths is bad in 1 & 2, and "None" is singular. |
> *=========================================================*
>

PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
TEL :5773535/3636
EXT :4226/4232/4237




Freddy,
I offer my help to you and anytime you are welcome to disturb me.

Poras,

From: vijay_balasubramnian <>

Subject: New address

Date: 02 Jul 1998 06:51:26 -0500


Hi Folks,

I have relocated to Boston and am presently staying in Waltham.
Satish, are
you still living in
Concord? If so, we should get together sometime. Anyone else in the
Boston
area?

My new email address is: vbalasubramanian@noblestar.email
I should be receiving my 2nd address via MCI. I'll let you know once
that
happens.

Peter, it was nice to hear from another train enthusiast.
Unfortunately, I
don't have spare
copies of the working TTs. However, I plan to make a trip to India next
summer
and visit my
uncle in Calcutta. I'll try to get extra copies from him. If you come
to
Boston anytime, let me know and we can get together.

Vijay
reply address: vbalasubramanian@noblestar.email

From: Auroprem Kandaswami <>

Subject: Fw: IRFCA member meet SF BAY Area

Date: 02 Jul 1998 07:39:39 -0500



Hi IRFCAites (SF Bay Area)

I live in Cupertino, very close to San Jose and 50 miles
south of San Francsico

Please count me in for a possible get-together.

Regards,
Auro
____________________________________________________________________


>From: "Steven Brown" <able@ricochet.email
>To: "Prakash Tendulkar" <prakash@us.email <anniepoo@netmagic.email
>Cc: <irfca@cs.email
>Subject: Re: IRFCA member meet SF BAY Area
>Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:10:58 -0700
>
>Count me in, I live in Union City about half way between San Francisco
and
>San Jose. Who else is out there?
>
>Steve Brown
>able@ricochet.email
><A HREF="http://trainweb.com/indiarail">http://trainweb.com/indiarail</A>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Prakash Tendulkar <prakash@us.email
>To: anniepoo@netmagic.email <anniepoo@netmagic.email
>Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
>Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 10:11 AM
>Subject: Re: IRFCA member meet
>
>
>Annie,
>
>I am just 60 miles from you, not a long distance in California.
>It may be a good idea to meet once in a while. Dheeraj was in
>South Bay last year and I had an opportunity to meet this
>wonderful person.
>
>I am working (officially) part-time this month, travelling and
>enjoying sun but will return by the end of the month.
>
>And yes, I have not forgotten to make a copy of my video on Indian
>Railways for you. I need some time to catch up with the backlog.
>
>Prakash
>
>Notes Address: Prakash Tendulkar/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS
>VM Address: IBMUSM50(PRAKASH)
>Internet Address: prakash@us.email
>Phone: (408)463-3536
>DB2 Technical Consultant, Vendor Partnership Program
>
>
>
>anniepoo@netmagic.email on 07/01/98 03:54:00 AM
>Please respond to anniepoo@netmagic.email
>To: irfca@cs.email
>cc:
>Subject: IRFCA member meet
>
>
>Are there enough IRFCA members in the SF Bay area for us to meet?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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From: fca <>

Subject: Computer Simulation of Indian Railways

Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:27:24 -0500


Thanks for the response, potential volunteers! Prepare for some hard
work
thumbing through bradshaws etc.... but fun too. :-)

I am setting things up to mail out to irfca and all volunteers
individually
(in case of hiccups), probably this weekend. Then we can agree how work
can be spread.

Kind regards

Freddy

PS: My background, since I am a relative newcomer to the list (please
skip
if easily bored):
* Fanatically interested in IR since my first memories - c200,000km
travelled on IR; school used to give me indefinite time off (as long as
I
came back and stood 1st in the exams ;-( ) and all of this was used
travelling around India with parents...
* 40 yrs young, liberal, fun-loving, agnostic Sagittarian ex-Xavierite
ex-Mumbayite (and ex-lecturer, designed much of Agrawal Classes I.I.T. -
J.E.E. Physics & Maths courses, filled in a year teaching at Cathedral &
JC
School).
* Know all major stations on most IR routes by heart (100% useless, I
know!!)
* Based in UK for c17yrs: run chartered accountancy practice, computer
software house (but am relatively inexperienced at Web programming),
financial consultancy etc.
* Non professional qualifications: B.Sc. (Physics); B.Sc.(Maths) etc.
* "Other" interests: Everything really... including photography,
assembly
language programming (Z80/6502/680X/680X0/808X/80X86), chess, bridge,
reading, driving seriously fast cars (trains are useless in Europe),
martial arts
* Intention: To write THE definitive book on exploring India by Rail
(aimed
at both deshis and videshis).
* Criminal Record: None as yet (Traffic Police here do not have fast
enough
cars) :-)


*=========================================================*
| 1. Thirteen thirteens are one hundred and seventy nine. |
| 2. Thirteen thirteens is one hundred and seventy nine. |
| 3. None of the above two statements are correct. |
| |
| Q: Are any of the above three statements correct? |
| A: No. Maths is bad in 1 & 2, and "None" is singular. |
*=========================================================*

From: fca <>

Subject: SF Bay IRFC meet

Date: 02 Jul 1998 23:54:10 -0500


From: "Anne O." <anniepoo@netmagic.email
Reply-To: anniepoo@netmagic.email
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C (Macintosh; U; PPC)
To: fca@accountant.email AND DULY FORWARDED :-)
Subject: SF Bay IRFC meet

Great! I've seen 5 responses to the meet, when do you guys want to do
it?
Weeknight?
Weekend?




*=========================================================*
| 1. Thirteen thirteens are one hundred and seventy nine. |
| 2. Thirteen thirteens is one hundred and seventy nine. |
| 3. None of the above two statements are correct. |
| |
| Q: Are any of the above three statements correct? |
| A: No. Maths is bad in 1 & 2, and "None" is singular. |
*=========================================================*

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: SF Bay IRFC meet

Date: 03 Jul 1998 07:26:50 -0500


Yes it is high time, I am also watching with alarm, we who are in the
heart of
action choose not to meet at all. Okay if Pune Mumbai is not possible,
how
about Pune - Pune and likewise. Jayant, your comments ?

Apurva Bahadur

VIRAF P.. MULLA wrote:

> > How about Saturday, July 18, at 7pm in Fremont?
> > Sanjiv, can you recommend a good restaurant?
>
> Hey Bombay - Pune chaps - the SF Bay gang is already talking about
meeting
> what about us?
>
> ==========================
> Viraf Mulla
> C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
> Borivali (West)
> Mumbai 400103
> Tel: +91-22-8954510
> E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
> ==========================

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Happy 4th of July !

Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:10:04 -0500


Very happy independence day to all my American railfan friends

Apurva Bahadur

Pune /India

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: HELP

Date: 03 Jul 1998 21:24:38 -0500



Hi All,

Will somebody PLEASE send me a list of all the sites on Indian Railways.

It is rather urgent. Can anyone mail it to pes@godrejnet.email or at
natil@godrejnet.email.

Thanks
Viraf
==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: Donald L. Mills, Jr <>

Subject: Re: Happy 4th of July !

Date: 03 Jul 1998 21:50:11 -0500


Thanks to all my new found friends on IRIZ. Looking for a quiet place.

They will be letting fireworks off all day and evening. Very loud.

I have found a RR in the US that uses all Alco's. If you can get a copy
of
Trains--(A US publicaton) the July edition has a couple of Pictures of
Apache RR a shortline in Arizona that uses Alcos. Also on the Internet
look up the Train Web here in the states at <A HREF="http://trainweb.com">http://trainweb.com</A> for info
on
Alcos and on the Apache Rails. They also have a link page to other
rails
of the world. Some great stuff on these pages.

Best to you and yours and I can't wait to tell my wife that someone
outside
of the US has actually heard of the 4th of July. Just like us you too
can
claim the eventual victory over the British. (they are much better
now-as
friends instead of what they would refer to us as the colonies, thank
God
they have been humbled. Now if they would just get out of NI I would be
very happy and so would my family. Don in WV

----------
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@giaspn01.email
> To: Indian Railways Info Zone <irfca@cs.email
> Subject: Happy 4th of July !
> Date: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:10 PM
>
> Very happy independence day to all my American railfan friends
>
> Apurva Bahadur
>
> Pune /India

From: Steven Brown <>

Subject: Re: HELP , IR Related Websites

Date: 03 Jul 1998 22:20:14 -0500


My website has links to almost all IR related websites. If I have missed
any
of signifigance please let me know. I have a page for all the new pages
being created by Indian Railways Fan Club (IRFCA) members, if I have
missed
anyone, i apologise, and please let me know so I can make the
correction.
HOMEPAGE
<A HREF="http://www.trainweb.com/indiarail">http://www.trainweb.com/indiarail</A>
IRFCA
<A HREF="http://www.trainweb.com/indiarail/irfca.htm">http://www.trainweb.com/indiarail/irfca.htm</A>

If you are looking for official IR efforts on the web the Western
Railways
site is the most recent. The earliest is the Railway Staff College which
has
been around for several years now.

Hope this helps,

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <sncf@godrejnet.email
To: Apurva Bahadur <iti@giaspn01.email
Cc: Indian Railways Info Zone <irfca@cs.email
Date: Friday, July 03, 1998 9:17 PM
Subject: HELP


>
>Hi All,
>
>Will somebody PLEASE send me a list of all the sites on Indian
Railways.
>It is rather urgent. Can anyone mail it to pes@godrejnet.email or at
>natil@godrejnet.email.
>
>Thanks
>Viraf
>==========================
>Viraf Mulla
>C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
>Borivali (West)
>Mumbai 400103
>Tel: +91-22-8954510
>E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
>==========================
>
>

From: Don Dickens <>

Subject: Relics of the Raj Video

Date: 04 Jul 1998 16:01:19 -0500


I had searched for the Video "Relics of the Raj" for some time. I ended
up buying it as part of a four volume set from a local distributor,
Columbia River Entertainment Group.Their phone number is 1/800/288-2007
ext2045. Item is "World Steam Journeys, Set 1. Price is $24.98 plus
shipping $4.00 They accept visa or mastercard, check or money order.
BTW: It has about 20 seconds of the Patiala State Monorail Tramway.
Don Dickens

From: Anne O. <>

Subject: Re: Happy 4th of July !

Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:43:14 -0500


Thanks, Apurva -

(This written as fireworks go off in the background).

From: Anne O. <>

Subject: SF Bay IRFC meet

Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:51:26 -0500


How about Saturday, July 18, at 7pm in Fremont?
Sanjiv, can you recommend a good restaurant?

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: SF Bay IRFC meet

Date: 06 Jul 1998 00:14:27 -0500



> How about Saturday, July 18, at 7pm in Fremont?
> Sanjiv, can you recommend a good restaurant?

Hey Bombay - Pune chaps - the SF Bay gang is already talking about
meeting
what about us?

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: sank <>

Subject: Re: SF Bay IRFC meet

Date: 06 Jul 1998 02:04:15 -0500


> Yes it is high time, I am also watching with alarm, we who are in the
heart of
> action choose not to meet at all. Okay if Pune Mumbai is not possible,
how
> about Pune - Pune and likewise. Jayant, your comments ?
We should do this soon. In any case any of us Mumbai-Pune sorts visiting
the
other town could meet the others whenever possible.

--
Jayant S : ID Studio
Tata Technologies India Limited
Telco Premises : Pimpri TEL: 91 (212) 774261 ex 2534
PUNE : 411 018 : INDIA FAX: 91 (212) 773191

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: SF Bay IRFC meet

Date: 06 Jul 1998 02:25:51 -0500



> Yes it is high time, I am also watching with alarm, we who are in the
heart of
> action choose not to meet at all. Okay if Pune Mumbai is not possible,
how
> about Pune - Pune and likewise. Jayant, your comments ?

Lets make it 50-50 how about Karjat - Porus are you game?

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================