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From: Anand I.S. <>

Subject: greetings

Date: 21 Oct 1999 14:26:06 -0500


Dear Hubbert,

thnx 4 ur ltr., and greetings 2 u.As I am operating from cyber cafe,
there
could be delay in my reply. Please bear. I shall b again going
down south this Nov. end and possibly Jan. visiting Rly. instalations is

difficult even 4 INDIANS. So 4 a foreigner u could imagine.

However I shall help u all I could. 4 a few more years, steam on the
Nilagiri is assured. However, the elec. lobby is busy, in that they want
the
MG ELEC LOCOS TO b used there after elecfn. of MG is closed down in
CHENNAI
section, sometime in 2003/5.

All existing X.CL. LOCOS will be totally rebuilt. I already saw the
cylinders, pistons, gears pinions etc; being rebuilt and readied. In
facton
the day of my visit, the cylns. were being put in place.

Frankly however, I would'nt mind the Elec locos being operated, as my
ist.
love is Elec. amd my dear YAM-1s would'nt have to go to the scrap
yard. Anyway bye 4 now.

anand. "Der Deltic"



Der Deltic"


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From: Anand I.S. <>

Subject: GREETINGS

Date: 21 Oct 1999 14:49:09 -0500


Hi Pals,

Greetings and regards 2 all of u. I am terribly sorry that I am not in a

position to thnk each one of u who have welcomed me. Its a great feeling
to
b one among u all. Please bear my delays in replying, as I am operating
from
CYBER CAFE, and not from my home/office. It shall be my endeavor to be
as
fast as I can.

Now some little details about me.

I am 47, Bachelor and working 4 ANZ GRINDLAYS Bank, for the past 27yrs
and
continuing. How boring, instead of being in railways.
Fortunate are those who do.

My interest in rlys. A great big nut and all the words in the dictionary

which so defines.

Loco interest:

1st. ELEC LOCOS. Gawd, what a sacrilege. Elec. and not Steam !

2nd.DIESEL LOCOS. eGAD WHOM DO WE HAVE HERE !

3RD. steam locos. Of course I am a train lover.

The seducing ways of elec locos with their swaying pantos, and bulging
bogies, and their whine, Ah, I could go on and on.

The mighty diesels with their passionate roar and their same seducing
bogies. Oh God for all these mercies!

and last, but definitely not the least, the sounds and smell of plain
pure steam. Thank the Lord, for had not steam been discovered, would I
have had my elecs !!.

Anyhow I am closing now 4 I hear menacing footsteps and growls.

Well pals bye 4 now.


anand.

P.S. But my most favorite loco is the DELTIC of course.



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From: hubbert <>

Subject: Re: Needs tips for KR travel

Date: 21 Oct 1999 19:20:29 -0500


Hello Vijay.
It is a pitty with the KR-train-timings that the northern section is
difficult to hammer in the itenary by daylight. I travelled there due to

the 12 hours delay of the 6636 Neetravathi. I started from Calicut
but another train was derailed (around Cannore).
Beside the scenery, I was fascineted by a station-layout somewhat
north of Ratnagiri - the name I have not seen. It is such, that there
are two tunnels: One just at the first point and the next is a shorter
one but covering just parts of the station-tracks. The tiny station is
surounded with rocks.

Rajan, you are very right with south-area.
I was at Kapad beach near Calicut. The line is so beautyfull with
the train running throught the palmtrees, passing brigdges over the
backwaters. Dual gauging is in full swing on this section.

Heinrich


On 20 Oct 99, at 1:27, Rajan Mathew wrote:

> Hi Vijay,
>
> Find my responses between the lines ...
>
> Subject: Needs tips for KR travel
> > Folks,
> >
> > The first of my journeys would be on the Gandhidham-Nagercoil Exp.
> > from
> > Panvel to Nagercoil. I would appreciate any feedback from you
"Gurus"
> about
> > some concerns/questions that I have -
> >
> > 1. Since this doesn't have First Class I have opted for Sleeper
class
> rather
> > than being cooped up in an AC coach and miss all the fun!! Should I
be
> > concerned about overcrowding on this route with reservation-less
folks
> > creating a nuisance?
>
> Well, on this one there should not be any problem ... since the load
on
> the KR is not so high for short distance travel. Trains halt at select
> stations too, so not much problem. > > 2. What is the average delay on
KR
> these days? How late can I expect this > train to be at my
destination?
>
> Trains are pretty punctual ... my last few trips in Aug - Sept - Oct
> resulted in delays of not more than an hour to two.
>
> 3. Panvel-Sawantwadi is covered during the night. Would I missing
out
> scenery-wise or does the route beyond Sawantwadi have a lot to offer?
>
> You will travel about 450 km which is no small distance. This is what
you
> might miss ... Panvel to Roha (CR) is quite scenic and the impression
is
> of passing through a thick jungle few hillocks and wide plains at
times.
> Roha to Karanjadi (just after Veer Dasgaon) is almost the same.
>
> You have the Natuwadi tunnel (secoond longest) and pass through Khed.
Khed
> to Chiplun is dominated by travel along the side of the Vashishti
River,
> and scenic hills ahead. Chiplun to Ratnagiri is dominated by some
> spectacular river bridges and major tunnels. The terrain gets rugged
here
> ... and is dominated by numerous cuttings too. The line gradually
climbs
> here and the feeling is that you are on a highly elevated section -
about
> 30 - 40 m above the rest of the land around. Closer to Ratnagiri, pass
> through the longest tunnel - the Karbude.
>
> Ratnagiri to Vaibhavwadi Road is again tough terrain ... scenic views
from
> viaducts high above ... again a few long tunnels (over 2 km) and
numerous
> tunnels and cutouts here too .. 10 km out of Ratnagiri , encounter the
> Panval Nadi Viaduct - the third of 5 viaducts as you leave Ratnagiri.
The
> feeling is weird especially for those used to travel on the Bhor Ghats
> (where the climb is slow and gradual) ... the train speeds through
ghat
> like territorry at high speed and this can really knock your senses
> (believe me guys ... I never cease to get knocked by this effect each
> time... )
>
> Vaibhavwadi to Nandgaon shows a gradual change in the landscape which
> tends to roll more now ... and upto Goa.
>
> Don't worry .. you will have to dedicate another trip for all that ...
> "too much for the railways to show you in one day" Just be positive
about
> what you're getting below...
>
> 4. Any railfanning tips such as scenic stretches, interesting
stations,
> junction points, loco sheds, liveried trains, etc. on this route would
be
> welcome. I plan to actively use my camcorder.
>
> Goa onwards features truly coastal fare. In terms of crossing major
rivers
> .. the Mandovi, the Zuari, Cortallim embankment ... river bridges,
> coastal scenic beauty dominated by paddy fields, palm trees In South
Goa,
> after Canacona the line comes quite close to the sea coast. The
Kalanadi
> River near Karwar and the mightty Sharavati (longest bridge of 2.1km).
> Till Kundapur there are still cut outs and few tunnels. The stretch
from
> Kundapura to Thokur is extremely scenic being flat with fine river
bridges
> and palm trees amidst green paddy fields
>
> Leave the KR at Thokur and enter SR for a brief halt at Kankanadi.
Head
> southwards towards Kerala where the huge bridge over the Netravati
River
> can be encountered... The line runs along the coast and the view is
very
> scenic right through to Cannanore One of my favourites is between
> Kankanadi and Kanhangad (just after Kasaragod) which I consider very
> scenic. See that you face west for your entire trip along the line
from
> Goa onwards ... ..
>
> My answer is general now but I will fill up more details as we go
along
> ...
>
> Regards
> Rajan
>
>
>

From: hubbert <>

Subject: X-class, YAM1 and the "Queen"

Date: 21 Oct 1999 19:20:29 -0500


Could it really be true, that there will be an electric service up to
Ooty with YAM1 in the future? Electric-haulage would improve the
capacity of the line. There is very hefty road traffic in the hills - an

ecologically sensitive (landslides) area - which could be shifted to
the rail. Imagine a dozen train-pairs runing daily?! How many
busloads would save that?!
Heavy vehicles could be banned from the mountain-road then.
And the X-class will be the veteran-attraction only to put in service
on holiday-specials for an extra-fare!

This is the best scenario, I can imagine.
But the Queen will no more be that toy-train.
However, the steam-buffs have three years time to take a chance.

Heinrich

On 21 Oct 99, at 21:26, Anand I.S. wrote:

> Dear Hubbert,
>
> thnx 4 ur ltr., and greetings 2 u.As I am operating from cyber cafe,
there
> could be delay in my reply. Please bear. I shall b again going down
south
> this Nov. end and possibly Jan. visiting Rly. instalations is
difficult
> even 4 INDIANS. So 4 a foreigner u could imagine.
>
> However I shall help u all I could. 4 a few more years, steam on the
> Nilagiri is assured. However, the elec. lobby is busy, in that they
want
> the MG ELEC LOCOS TO b used there after elecfn. of MG is closed down
in
> CHENNAI section, sometime in 2003/5.
>
> All existing X.CL. LOCOS will be totally rebuilt. I already saw the
> cylinders, pistons, gears pinions etc; being rebuilt and readied. In
> facton the day of my visit, the cylns. were being put in place.
>
> Frankly however, I would'nt mind the Elec locos being operated, as my
ist.
> love is Elec. amd my dear YAM-1s would'nt have to go to the scrap
yard.
> Anyway bye 4 now.
>
> anand. "Der Deltic"
>
>
>
> Der Deltic"
>
>
> anand
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> isadeltic@hotmail.email
>
> F/6, BALAKA,
> SWASTIK PARK,
> CHEMBUR MUMBAI - 400071
> INDIA.
> Tel(R): 91+22+5226163
> Tel(O): 91+22+2623235
>
>
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>

From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Photos by Tim

Date: 21 Oct 1999 19:33:59 -0500


Nice work, Tim !!
Always good to see YP/YG photographs. They
have to be among the best-proportioned steam
locomotives ever.

--
JS
--

From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Tim's Photos: Query

Date: 21 Oct 1999 19:39:41 -0500


Uh...just noticed something a
little unusual. Photos no 9, 10, 11, & 12
include a facing point ahead of the loco
on the platform loop, which seems to be
controlled by a ground throw lever as
well as a link from the signalbox frame.
Isn't it a little strange to have a
ground lever on a platform loop switch ?

--
JS
--

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: KONKAN RAILWAY SITE HAS BEEN LOCATED - Re: Needs tips for KR travel

Date: 21 Oct 1999 23:17:54 -0500


GANG ....

JUST BEEN SURFING A BIT YESTERDAY AND FOUND THE KONKAN RAILWAY SITE
HERE'S THE ADDRESS

<A HREF="http://www.konkanrailway.com/">http://www.konkanrailway.com/</A>

TIMETABLE, CURRENT RUNNING UPDATES, A HISTORY , BACKGROUND AND A LOT OF
USEFUL INFORMATION WITH A FEW PIX ALSO

CHECK IT OUT

(PS i got this by visiting the page
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/irasmumbai/">http://www.geocities.com/irasmumbai/</A>
check this page out too .... )

Rajan

From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Re: Platform Loop Switch

Date: 21 Oct 1999 23:50:35 -0500


Apurva Bahadur wrote:

> This point leads to a small deadend in which one of two vehicles can
be
> stabled. The PF 1 at Mysore is also similar.

Looks like the catch siding to protect the main.
Catch sidings are common enough, but what I find
unusual is that the one in Tim's photo seems to
have a ground lever attached along with the rod
from the lever frame (presumably) in the signal
cabin. I have never seen a dual-lever switch
before, if that is what it is.

--
JS
--

From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: superrailway steam

Date: 22 Oct 1999 00:24:39 -0500


Hello,
Check out the additions/changes at my superrailway steam page:

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/superrlysteam.htm">http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/superrlysteam.htm</A>

Cheers.

Shankar

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Tim's Photos: Query

Date: 22 Oct 1999 00:28:21 -0500


This point leads to a small deadend in which one of two vehicles can be
stabled. The PF 1 at Mysore is also similar. You can see this in my MG
at MYS webpage. Check out the last pic on the page:
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/MG.htm">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/MG.htm</A>

Apurva

Jayant S wrote:

> Uh...just noticed something a
> little unusual. Photos no 9, 10, 11, & 12
> include a facing point ahead of the loco
> on the platform loop, which seems to be
> controlled by a ground throw lever as
> well as a link from the signalbox frame.
> Isn't it a little strange to have a
> ground lever on a platform loop switch ?
>
> --
> JS
> --

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: [Fwd: hi

Date: 22 Oct 1999 00:30:41 -0500


I think Anand forgot to cc to the IRFCA. Great news though.

Apurva

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: new member - IS Anand

Date: 22 Oct 1999 02:29:29 -0500


hi Anand and the gang,
Just an example of the extent IS.Anand(sir) is in

love with railways, his visiting card has a small picture of a WCM 1(if
iam
right). I guess u should be feeling at home after joining the list.
Extremely happy to have met u.


regards,
Anand

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From: PG JULIAN RAINBOW <>

Subject: Narrow Gauge Railway Talk

Date: 22 Oct 1999 02:56:54 -0500


All,

I hope you will forgive me for posting on a subject that is not IR,
but if anyone is in England on Sat 30/10/99 then the Britsih Overseas
Railways Historical Trust will be hosting a talk on the three
Nigerian 2' 6" guage systems, ie the Lagos Steam Tramway, the Bauchi
Light Railway and the Barijuko-Zungernu Tramway. The talk is to be
held at 15:00 hrs at The Whiteoaks Liesure Centre, Hilda May Avenue,
Swanley, Kent and will be given by a former officer of Nigerian
Railways. Entrance to the talk is free and all are welcome. The talk
is being held in conjunction with ExpoNG, Britain's largest Narrow
Guage Exhibition, unfortunately entrance to ExpoNG is NOT free,
however the Darjeeling Himalaya Railway Society will be there.

Julian

From: Zubin Lee <>

Subject: Why not a WDP2 on KR ?

Date: 22 Oct 1999 03:22:06 -0500


hey folks !

if the WDP2 is really capable of doing 160 km/h, why not run it on the
KR ?
agreed, it wouldent be able to run for long @ 160 km/h, but on stretches
?
trains like the TVC raj could benefit. also, KR possesses arguably the
best
track & signalling and has been designed for 160 km/h. whats more,
unforseen
problems encountered during high-speed running can also be found out and
nipped in the bud.

~zubin.
<A HREF="http://zubin.gen-next.com/">http://zubin.gen-next.com/</A>

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Needs tips for KR travel

Date: 22 Oct 1999 06:17:18 -0500


> Don't worry .. you will have to dedicate another trip for all that ...
"too
> much for the railways to show you in one day" Just be positive about
what
> you're getting below...

I love this term - too much of railways in a day. Like you recommend
facing left
between Goa and Kerala, which is the favoured side in the Diva - Goa
section.
How friendly is the crew ? What are the crew changing points for a train
like
Mandovi Express ? CSTM - Ratnagiri, Ratnagiri - Madgaon ?
I wish you would make a railfanning map of the KR based on your 'railway
oriented' map making skills, highlighting the points with a small note -
forest
section, river section, ghat section, viaduct section etc. You could
even split
it in small sections like CSTM - Roha on separate sheets. You could draw
it by
hand and scan it. I remember the excellent hand drawn map of the
Wankaner -
Morbi area with notes in German (on International steam pages ?). That
had the
railfanning and scenic notes written on the map. I wonder if you have
seen this
map ?

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Electrical system on the IR coaches

Date: 22 Oct 1999 10:34:05 -0500


Gang !

We recently had quite a strong debate about the electric system inside
the coaches of
the IR. Here is a good explanation from one of the IR sites.

Apurva

TRAIN LIGHTING AND AIR-CONDITIONING

TRAIN LIGHTING

Train lighting by electricity was first introduced on Indian
Railways in 1897. Supply of electricity in trains is required
primarily for lighting – a necessity, for fans – an amenity and, for
airconditioning – a functional necessity and also an amenity.
Besides, the electricity is also required for meeting the hotel load
viz. hot plates, bottle coolers, refrigerators etc. provided in pantry
cars as well as in airconditioned coaches.

In the olden days the passenger trains used to have 7 or 8 coaches
hauled by steam locomotive and those coaches were divided into
first class, second class, inter class and third class. First class was
having number of fans and light points. Second class was having
almost half of first class, inter class used to have much less than
second class and third class were provided with only two light
points at the doors for entraining and detraining of passengers.
With the advent of the freedom and after the first parliament
meet in 1952, a resolution was passed in parliament that
passengers travelling in third class of Indian Railway trains
should be provided with basic passenger amenities. This covered
adequate lighting and fannage and running water in the toilets in
all classes of coaches. Ministry of Railways, accordingly, planned
this work and in a period of about 3 years, all the coaches were
sent to workshops for providing generating equipmetns and
other fittings.

The train lighting system at that time consisted of axle driven
generator working in conjunction with 24V batteries and
switchgear for controlling lights and fans. In axle generation,
moving axle of the coach works as a prime mover for generator.
The axle pulley and the generator pulley are connected by belts.

The system was good. However, all the wiring and the parts of
the switchgear had heavy copper content and soon it became
target of theft. Over a period of time, it became impossible to
maintain the train lighting services on account of theft of copper
and brass parts.

To overcome the problem, Railway Board appointed a committee
of Chief Electrical Engineers. Director, Research Designs and
Standards Organisation (RDSO) was also associated with the
committee. They were asked specifically to recommend short
term and long term measures to improve the train lighting
services on Indian Railways.

As a short term measure, the committee recommended adoption
of simplified train lighting system. The salient features of
modified train lighting system are,
Replacement of all copper wiring and switchgear parts with
aluminium.
Replacement of brass parts with galvanised cast iron.
Incorporation of anti-theft and fire prevention measures.
All coaches were made independent and self sufficient for
power requirements.

For introduction of modified train lighting system, all the coaches
were again sent to workshops and provided with new wiring and
equipment. By late 60s almost all the trains were covered by this
system.

The modified train lighting system solved the problem of theft
but created the following new problems.


Aluminium wiring is bulkier as its conductivity is less than
copper.



Aluminium terminations and joints get loose resulting in
heating and sparking.



Aluminium terminations and joints get oxidised resulting in
open circuit.



As there is no spare capacity available on train, if the
generating equipment of one or two coaches fails, then other
coaches have to share the misery.


Systems of train lighting

The following systems are presently in use for train lighting on
the Indian Railways.


Axle generation system working on d.c. 24V, supply,



Axle generation system working on d.c. 110V, supply,



Mid-on-generation with a.c. 415V, 3 phase generation and
a.c.110V, utilisation,



End-on-generation with a.c. 415V, 3 phase generation and
a.c. 415V utilisation for airconditioning equipments and a.c.
110V utilisation for train lighting equipments,



End-on-generation with a.c. 750V, 3 phase generation and
a.c. 415V utilisation for airconditioning equipments and a.c.
110V utilisation for train lighting equipments.


Conversion of 24 V train lighting system into 110 V

Indian Railways have improved the illumination in 4174
passenger coaches by converting existing 24 volt train lighting
system into 110 volt system during the last two and a half years.
816 passenger coaches were provided with 110 volt train lighting
system during 1995-96, in the course of periodic overhauling at
the railway workshops.During 1996-97 as many as 2294 passenger
coaches were provided with 110 volt train lighting system.
During the year 1997-98, a total of 1064 coahces were provided
with 110 volt train lighting system upto August 1997. Since April
1995, all new coahces manufactured have 110 volt train lighting
system.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------

Source : Indian Railways (January 1998).



AIRCONDITIONING

Airconditioning of railway coaches on Indian Railways began in
1960s. These were equipped with under slung equipments,
interconnected with pipe lines. The introduction of self contained
roof mounted package units in railway coaches, with complete
equipments, pre-charged and tested needing only electrical and
ducting connections is of recent origin. With the introduction of
more and more fast trains on Indian Railways, the need for
airconditioned coaches has also increased, not only for improving
comfort, but also from operating point of view, since with higher
train speeds, the need for avoiding open windows on wind
resistance considerations also assumes importance.

Improved Performance Of Airconditioned (AC) Railway
Coaches

The performance of airconditioned passenger coaches on Indian
Railways has improved tremondously. The air conditioned coach
failure per 100 coach holding has come down gradually from
14.1% during 1995-96 to 8.4% during 1996-97 and to 4.8% during
April-September 1997.

Meanwhile, the holding stock of airconditioned coaches has
increased steeply over the last three years. It increased from 1367
airconditioned coaches during 1994-95 to 1612 such coaches
during 1996-97. The number of airconditioned coahces on Indian
Railwayas upto August 1997 were 1893.

Indian Railways have several types of airconditioned coaches.
These comprise AC chair car, AC executive class chair car, AC
3-Tier, AC 2-Tier and AC first class.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------

Source : Indian Railways (January 1998).

Development of 25 KW Alternators for self generating
airconditioned coaches

Belt driven alternator alongwith rectifier-regulator is used to
generate electrical power by utilising the mechanical power of
the train to provide power supply for airconditioning system,
light and fan loads in the coaches. At present, there are mainly
two types of coahces (i) Air-conditioned coaches which are
provided with 18/22.75 KW alternators with rectifier-regulator
and (ii) Non-AC coaches with 110 V system which are provided
with 4.5 KW, 110V ac alternator. In order to improve the
reliability of these alternators for AC coaches, it is necessary to
provide adequate design margins in the rating. Research, Designs
and, Standards, Organisation (RDSO) has undertaken
development of 25 KW alternator and regulator using state-of-art
technology of power electronics and controls. RDSO has
successfully developed these alternators indegenously through
the existing manufacturers. These alternators are now in regular
use by the production units. The design features of various makes
have also been standardised to ensure inter-changeability.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

Source : RDSO HIGHLIGHTS (April 1998)

From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: Re: India Edits

Date: 22 Oct 1999 10:55:47 -0500


Hello Tim,
Nice pics. I also liked the black background.
I have not viewed them in too much detail as yet,(I will by tomorrow),
but what I saw was pretty interesting. A couple of them did not need to
be excluded/edited out from the earlier site at all.
Keep them coming.
I have added the link to the links page of my superrailway site. All
three of your sites are there now. As your sites increase in number, you
could also do what Apurva does: make a nice index page.
And do work on your general photography page!!
Thanks for the treat.
Cheers.
Shankar




Tim & Anita Wakeman wrote:
>
> Gang!
>
> I've scanned and posted 22 shots I took in 1994 that I did not include
> in my first web page. If you would like to see them please go to
> <A HREF="http://webusers.warwick.net/~u1029964/india.htm">http://webusers.warwick.net/~u1029964/india.htm</A>
>
> Regards, Tim Wakeman

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: G12 - G16

Date: 22 Oct 1999 22:59:39 -0500


Rumour has it that the EMD G12 - G16, built for
Brazil, has a strong resemblance to the WDM2.
Rumour also has it that there's a model available of
this loco.

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: WDM2 model

Date: 22 Oct 1999 23:26:15 -0500


This is an Australian loco, an NSW 35 class.

<A HREF="http://www.railpage.org.au/pix/diesel/3507_6372_Grafton_27-9-93.jpg">http://www.railpage.org.au/pix/diesel/3507_6372_Grafton_27-9-93.jpg</A>

It seems to resemble a WDM2 in trucks and body shape.
A model of this loco is available in Australia.
If all this is true, I can fairly easily make a resin 'kit' to
convert one of these, and we can have real Indian models.

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: another candidate for a model

Date: 22 Oct 1999 23:27:04 -0500


<A HREF="http://www.railpage.org.au/pix/diesel/600class.jpg">http://www.railpage.org.au/pix/diesel/600class.jpg</A>

another aussie diesel.

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