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From: Sridhar Shankar <>

Subject: Re: New "Trains At a Glance Timetable"

Date: 15 Oct 1999 13:07:28 -0500


Sandeep, Vijay

I am not a fan of the new TAAG either. The best feature, of course is
the
map, but that said, the rest of it makes for painful reading. The layout
of
the individual tables appears to be the work of an amateur who was
introduced to Excel a day or so back.

I still use my 1998 version of TAAG with the new map.

-Sridhar


At 01:24 PM 10/15/1999 -0400, Vijay Balasubramanian wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: San-Ind [SMTP:docqcs@nde.email
> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:41 AM
> > To: Vijay Balasubramanian
> > Cc: irfca@cs.email
> > Subject: New "Trains At a Glance Timetable" ~~~~
> >
> > I think every-body had read the new "Trains At a Glance Timetable"
???
> >
> > ISn't every -body feel that it had lot of missing information....
which
> > confuse any one.... who had to travel between intermediate
stations......
> > Like Table 2, in previous time-tables it had contained all trains
between
> > stretches like Delhi-Itarsi, Delhi-Agra Jhansi-Itarsi etc. It was
full of
> > details of each & every train which even pass through some small
> > section.... But now they had divided it into 3-4 parts like
different for
> > Chennai/Hyderabad, Mumbai CST, Sambalpur etc. So if someone have to
> > travel
> > between New Delhi & Gwalior has to see 4-5 tables isn't it confusing
&
> > difficult ?????
> > There are lot of confusions every where in this timetable.....
> >

--------------------------------------------------------------
Sridhar Shankar
Mitchell Madison Group
333 West Wacker Drive, St. 300
Chicago, IL 60606
Ph: (312) 980-5492
Fax: (312) 980-5401

From: Tim & Anita Wakeman <>

Subject: Re: Anti Collision Device on the KR

Date: 15 Oct 1999 13:19:04 -0500


Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Gang !
>
> A news just on the Star TV showed a new and unique device developed
and patented by
> the Konkan Railway. This microprocessor beacon would be fitted in each
locomotive.
> That would tag the train number, whether up or down and if on the
correct and wrong
> line. A pair of locomotive within 2 Kms of each other would have a
warning flashed on
> the other loco's ACD. Then the two drivers can talk to each other on
the radio. The
> news claimed that such a device would get rid of the dangers of front,
rear and side
> collisions. The drivers themselves can take a decision without
depending on a third
> agency.
> I wonder which shed would implement this device for the KR, the
upcoming loco shed at
> Verna (Goa) ?
> Is there no similar device fitted on an American or European loco or
do they depend on
> the foolproof track circuiting to stay out of each other's way :-) ?
>
> Apurva


Apurva,

This was just in the press here about a week ago. NYC is considering
this system for the subways. The train can be "driverless" and follow
other train at very close distances depending on the speed and weight.
All this is calculated by a master computer that recieves messages from
the on board computers. Although they say driverless, there would have
to be an onboard operator in the drivers seat in case of emergencies.
The system can not detect obstructions on the track. It can only "see"
the train in front. The paper claims it will be several millions of
dollars and several years before the whole system could be converted, so
there my be just a couple of lines done first as a trial. We'll see. The
city also wants a 2nd Ave. subway, another bridge over the Hudson,
another tunnel(rail) under the Hudson, a port, and this list goes on,
but no one wants to pay for it all.

Tim

From: Tim & Anita Wakeman <>

Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 13:22:50 -0500


Is the WDP2 just a wide bodied WDM2? If so was is converted or built
this way? One more. Whats under the hood?One one more. How many are
there?

Tim

From: ranand <>

Subject: Re: One more IR link

Date: 15 Oct 1999 14:10:01 -0500



Here is a quote from this web site (
<A HREF="http://www.welcometoindia.com/travel/intro.html):">http://www.welcometoindia.com/travel/intro.html):</A>

"The Indian Railways started high speed inter city services in the form
of
Rajdhanis and Shatabdis some years
back and today these trains provide a fast, *comfartable* connection
between the
capital and most major cities."

I have traveled by chair car a lot in the old days and it was indeed
*comfartable*. I recall certain
sounds and smells soon after meals 8-)

Thanks for the link Vijay.

Anand

Internet: anand@watson.email
External tel: (914) 784 7054
Notes: Rangachari Anand/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
Tie-line: 863 7054

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: More info. from 1934 Bradshaw

Date: 15 Oct 1999 14:22:03 -0500


Let me first oblidge Sridhar's request and give departure and arrival
times
for the premier trains at their terminii

1. Punjab Mail -> d. Howrah 19.46, a. Amritsar 5.44 (3rd day) d.
Amritsar
5.54, a. Lahore 7.00
<- a Howrah 6.45 (3rd day), d Amritsar 21.04 a
Amritsar 20.39, d. Lahore 19.45

2. Kalka Mail -> d. Howrah 21.21, a Delhi 20.50 d Delhi 21.20, a.
Kalka
6.25
<- a Howrah 8.21, d Delhi 8.22 a Delhi 7.05, d
Kalka 22.45

3. Calcutta Mail via Chheoki
-> d. Howrah 20.11, a. Chheoki 9.08 d Chheoki 9.18,
a.
Bombay VT 9.00
<- a. Howrah 10.30, d Chheoki 21.34 a Chheoki 21.24,
d.
Bombay VT 21.15

4. Frontier Mail -> d Bombay Central 21.15, a Delhi 20.55 d Delhi
21.40, a
Amritsar 7.10 d Amritsar 7.20, a Peshawar 19.45
<- a Bombay Central 8.55, d Delhi 9.10 a Delhi
7.55, d Amritsar 22.12 a Amritsar 22.04, d Peshawar 9.20

5. Punjab Mail -> d Bombay VT 17.50, a Delhi 20.32
<- a Bombay VT 11.20, d Delhi 8.25


Continuing onto other trains....

6. 49/50 GT Exp., -> d Delhi 17.10, a Nagpur 16.32 d Nagpur 16.52, a
Madras
Central 16.30
<- a Delhi 9.00, d Nagpur 9.12 a Nagpur 8.43, d
Madras
Central 8.40

Tremendous speed-up - it now takes nearly 12 hrs. less. Well, the
current GT exp. is really an 'adjusted' version of the Southern Exp.
that
was introduced between Delhi and Hyderabad (when?). The former GT exp.
now
goes between Nizamuddin and Hyderabad as the Dakshin Exp.

Halts (we should really compare this against the present Dakshin Exp.)
New Delhi, Palwal, Kosi Kalan, Muttra, Raja-ki-Mandi, Agra Cantt,
Dholpur,
Gwalior, Jhansi, Lalitpur, Bina, Bhilsa, Bhopal, Hoshangabad, Itarsi,
Dhodhramoher, Dharako (only towards Madras), Betul, Amla, Multapi,
Chichonda
(only towards Delhi), Teegaon (only towards Delhi), Pandhurna, Narkhed,
Kalambha (only towards Delhi), Katol (shows both arr. and dep. times),
Kalmeshwar (only towwards Delhi), Nagpur, Sindi (only towards Delhi),
Hingaghat, Warora (shows both arr./dep. times),
Chanda (now Chandrapur), Balharshah, Manickgarh, Sirpur (now Sirpur
Kaghaz
Nagar - when was the paper factory set-up?), Asifabad Rd., Rechni Rd.,
Belampalli (arr/dep. times shown), Mancherial, Ramgundam, Pedapalli,
Potkapalli, Jumekoonta, Kazipet, Warangal, Kasamundram, Mahbubabad,
Daria,
Dornakal, Khammameth, Bona Kalu, Madira, Kondapalli, Bezwada, Tenali,
Nidubrolu (for 1st and 2nd class passengers if sufficient notice is
given),
Bapatla, Chirala, Chinna Ganjam, Ongole, Bitragunta, Nellore, Gudur,
Nayudupeta, Sullurupeta, Madras Central.

IMHO, Dharako is a typo - halt time should be shown against Ghoradongri.
Stations such as Dhodhramoher (now Dhodra Mohar) and Kalambha have been
degraded to pass. only halts - wonder why?


7. 1/2 Calcutta Mail via Nagpur
-> d Bombay VT 18.10, a Nagpur 9.43 d Nagpur 10.03, a Howrah
7.36
<- a Bombay VT 7.50, d Nagpur 15.40 a Nagpur 15.20, d Howrah
17.10

speeded-up by around 1.6 / 2.6 hrs.

Halts
Dadar (only towards Bombay), Thana (conditional stoppage), Kalyan,
Kasara,
Igatpuri, Nasik Rd., Manmad, Chalisgaon, Jalgaon, Bhusaval, Malkapur,
Jalamb
(arr/dep times), Shegaon (arr/dep times), Akola (only dep shown),
Murtajapur, Badnera, Chandur, Dhamangaon, Pulgaon (arr/dep times),
Wardha,
Nagpur, Itwari (only towards Bombay), Kamptee (only towards Bombay),
Bhandara Rd., Tumsar Rd., Gondia, Dongargarh, Raj-Nandgaon, Drug (typo?
only
dep. time shown), Raipur, Bhatpara, Bilaspur, Raigarh, Jharsuguda,
Bamra,
Kulunga, Chakradharpore, Tatanagar, Galudih, Ghatsila (only towards
Bombay),
Jhargram (only towards Bombay), Kharagpur, Howrah

Raurkela was a small station - since no Steel Plant. Another notable
skip
was Champa. It now skips Itwari, Kamptee, Bamra, Kulunga, Galudih,
Ghatsila, Jhargram and Kasara in Up only. Added halts - Devlali,
Champa,
Sakti, Raurkela


Vijay

From: raymond/Polaris <>

Subject: Re: TOP 20 RAIL JOURNEYS.

Date: 15 Oct 1999 20:21:56 -0500





---------------------- Forwarded by raymond/Polaris on 10/16/99 08:48 AM
---------------------------


dileep prakash <dil@mantraonline.email on 10/16/99 08:53:49 AM

Please respond to dil@mantraonline.email

To: raymond/Polaris@polaris.email
cc:
Subject: Re: TOP 20 RAIL JOURNEYS.




Hi.

I cant attempt at list of ten but two come straight to my mind:

Kangra Valley railway
Nainpur - Mandla (Madhya Pradesh) narrow guage line


raymond/Polaris@polaris.email wrote:

> Viraf and gang,
>
> Anybody willing to volunteer a list of the Top 10 in India
>
> Raymond

From: raymond/Polaris <>

Subject: Re: More info. from 1934 Bradshaw

Date: 15 Oct 1999 20:45:22 -0500




Dear Vijay and gang,

I do not think there was a Delhi - Hyderabad train till recently, when
the
Southern Express was renamed Dakshin Exp. The Southern Express was a
straight
New Delhi - Madras Central train. No Kazipet interchanges - nothing.
The
Southern Express and the Howrah Mail were the first trains to be
diesilised on
Southern Railway (before it was bifurcated into SR and SCR), using
WDM1's in
1963 or 1964. GT was dieselised only in 1967 or so.

Similarly, there were no trains from Delhi to Bangalore or Kerala till
recently.
Maybe 131/132 Jayanthi Janata was the first Delhi train to Kerala /
Mangalore.

Regards

Raymond

From: Royston Ellis <>

Subject: Sri Lanka Railways

Date: 15 Oct 1999 20:54:32 -0500


Hi Gang:

I have at last established contact with the expert on the Ceylon
Government
Railways who can supply all details on the link with India. He is Vinod
Wickremeratne who can be reached by e-mails to his attn at
<kanish@pan.email.

I have Vinod's permission to pass on this information and he would
welcome
any enquiries direct. He has just moved house and does not yet have a
telephone for computer link so can't join the list yet. He is also busy
relaying his extensive model railway system.

By the way, Vinod tells me that there is to be a RAIL 2000 EXHIBITION in
Colombo put on by Sri Lanka Railways from 27 December to 10 January.

Royston.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 22:03:43 -0500


Please check out WDP 2 specs in the DLW website.
<A HREF="http://www.dlwindia.com/">http://www.dlwindia.com/</A>

AFAIK this is a new loco with twin cab, uprated Alco 251 engines (new
camshaft, steel
capped pistons, new turbocharger, improved (electronic) governor, fuel
efficient kit
(no more Alco smoke screens). I believe only 15 have been built to date.

Tim & Anita Wakeman wrote:

> Is the WDP2 just a wide bodied WDM2? If so was is converted or built
> this way? One more. Whats under the hood?One one more. How many are
> there?

From: Karthik Giddu <>

Subject: My train derailed yesterday.

Date: 15 Oct 1999 23:10:54 -0500


HI Gang,
First hand information on my train(1063 Dadar Chennai Express)
derailment
at Ambarnath(3 stations beyond Kalyan on the Bombay-Pune link)

I was to go Madras after 1 yr gap to see my cousins. I boarded the train
at
7.50 at the dadar termius. I had booked a 3AC berth. The train started
on
time and reached Kalyan at 8.55 pm. My tickets were checked my the TC, I
gave order for night dinner and morning breakfast before Kalyan had
arrived. I even got the beddings. After 10 minutes stop i started again
and
went on smoothly and with 20 minutes in to the journey from Kalyan, all
of
sudden my coach started to rumble violently. It lasted for 20-30
seconds(like an earthquake) and the last thing i knew as we had derailed
and the coach was dangling at a angle of 30-35 degrees. All the people
in
my bay/coach were shaken apart and screaming. My coach was 5th from the
engine. I got on the coach quickly and gave a helping hand to get the
people wanting to come out. The 4th coach from the engine a hybrid
coach(2AC and 1AC combined) slightly hit the station and bore the burnt
of
the derailment. The doors got jammed and windows had to be broken to get
the people out of there. Near by people in 5 minutes got cowbars and
broke
the windows of the coach. They only gave us our luguages still trapped
inside our coaches. All the people in my coach were safe with no
injuries.
The loco(WCAM3) and 2 coaches went 40-50 meters before stopping. The 2AC
coach(3rd from engine) was standing upright, it had not derailed.

I took 5 photos of the scene. But it will take some time for me to put
it
on my site as i need to complete the roll!!!!!!!!!

As I take in Kandivli(Western suburb), afterwards I took a auto and
reached
Kalyan Station expecting the local trains to work.... But sadly no
trains
were operating for the 10 minutes I stayed in the platform and no
annoucement were made about the operating the trains. The only
annoucement
was that train services between and Kalyan and Ambarnath has been
suspended
till further notice. I had my this time made friendship with one of the
co-passengers. So we took one more auto to take me to Mulund. From there
we
took a taxi to reach our place, he got down at Andheri and I later
reached
my house at 1.20 am(the time I should be somewhere near Daund)

I spent from Ambarnath the 3/4 eqivalent of the Bombay-Madras 3AC fare
around Rs 700 to reach home.

I was cursing the CR for doing nothing to help the passengers enough
though
it a local bound for VT was standing but no annoucement was made about
when
that train will depart. I end my tru e-life story here.

Karthik
<A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com/">http://gidduk.tripod.com/</A>
+91-22-8014919

From: Karthik Giddu <>

Subject: Photo Mess

Date: 15 Oct 1999 23:24:31 -0500


Hi Folks,
Sorry for messing up the WDM2 and WDP2 photos taken by anand. I was was
in
a hurry to catch my train to Madras(which derailed in Ambarnath). I did
in
a hurry so that there is no further delay for for people to have a
glimse.

I shall rectify the page by tomorrow.
Thank you for ur patience.

Bye,
Karthik
<A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com/">http://gidduk.tripod.com/</A>
+91-22-8014919

From: Sujathan Nair <>

Subject: Kindly forward the following message to the Eranakulam South General Manager

Date: 15 Oct 1999 23:46:28 -0500


Dear Sir,

Kindly forward the following letter to the General Manager,Southern
Railway,
Eranakulam Junction,Kerala & the Chief Commercial Manager(Refunds),
Southern
Railway, Thycaud, Trivandrum.

Quote

October 16,1999.


The Chief Commercial Manager (Refunds)
Southern Railway
Thycaud, Trivandrum
Kerala.

Dear Sir,

Sub: Claim for refund of fare-ticket/PNR No.64933925 / 430-0701786 which
was
bookedthrough Citibank Credit Card No.5425 5694 1428 7011 at Mumbai
Central
Station(Western Railway).

I invite your kind attention to the above claim, which was forwarded to
you
in the month of June1999 for refund. The above booking was done at
Mumbai
Central Station through Credit Card booking counter on May 19,1999. The
above ticket was not confirmed till May 31st,1999; hence it is cancelled
at
Eranakulam Junction. Unfortunately, no credit card counter is working at

Eranakulam Junction with Southern Railway and your station officials
informed me to forward the ticket with refund application to you. So far

nothing is received from your end. The delay from your end is incurring
me
to a big loss in paying the interest for the above amount of Rs.2,878/-
to
Citibank since June,99 till date. Therefore, you are requested to
expedite
the refund either to me or to Citibank directly(I have requested in the
application preferable mode of payment by cheque to my address.

Once again requesting you to kindly expedite the refund to avoid me in
paying the unwanted interest to Citibank for the credit.

I shall be grateful if you will kindly do the needful.

Thanking you.

Yours faithfully,
Sd/-
S R NAIR

Encl: photocopies of application for refund of fare, ticket deposit
receipt
no.013967 DT. 31/5/1999 and Charge slip from Western Railway, Mumbai
Central, Mumbai.

c.c.: The Chief Commercial Manager (Refunds), Western Railway,
Churchgate,
Mumbai.- for information and follow up.
c.c.: The General Manager, Southern Railway, Eranakulam South
(Junction),
Eranakulam,Kerala.

c.c.: Citibank Card Centre, Madras. – for information and follow up.

D5/203, Lulla Complex, Adharwadi, Jail Road, Kalyan (West) Maharashtra
Tel.No. (0251) 312018 & C/o Mrs. Maya S Nair Tel.No. (022) 4139122.

unquote

I shall be grateful if you will kindly do the needful. I am a media
co-ordinator travelling frequently abroad, hence I am unable to contact
in
person/ to make follow up,therefore this request to your goodself. Now I
am
transmitting this message from UAE.

Please reply me back.

best regards and thanks for your co-operation.

Awaiting to hear from you soon.

Sujathan Nair R



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From: Sarosh B. Mehta <>

Subject: Re: Female Railfans

Date: 15 Oct 1999 23:56:19 -0500




----------
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> To: Anne Ogborn <anniepoo@netmagic.email
> Cc: irfca <irfca@cs.email
> Subject: Re: Female Railfans
> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 1:39 PM
>
> Virtually all the ladies I know would gladly do 'footplating' at least
once, if
> given half a chance. Unfortunately the driver cadre is specially
sensitive to
> let a lady on board lest they should be 'distracted'. This is a deep
routed
> Indian male viewpoint.
>
> Apurva

We have now have two lady drivers in the CR. One is assigned freight
duties while the other lady is assigned shunting duties. There was an
article in Bombay Times last week on these two ladies who have
explicitly
stated that they have been accepted by the male-driver fraternity. Appu,
maybe the 'distraction' part of the male driver psyche is on the vane?

sarosh.

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: Female Railfans

Date: 16 Oct 1999 00:45:24 -0500





>Virtually all the ladies I know would gladly do 'footplating' at least
once, if
>given half a chance. Unfortunately the driver cadre is specially
sensitive
to
>let a lady on board lest they should be 'distracted'. This is a deep
routed
>Indian male viewpoint.
>
>Apurva


I've certainly met a minority of men who deeply resent my
presence - I think they feel I'll interfere with it being a 'boys club'

I hadn't heard the 'distracted' angle.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: My train derailed yesterday.

Date: 16 Oct 1999 01:30:10 -0500


I read about the 1063 derailment in the papers today. So glad to know
that you
are okay. But then you were cutting it too close, the WDP 2 email was
sent to
the IRFCA barely minutes (1846 hrs) before you left for the station. I
thought
you were taking the 9 Down which departs CSTM much later.

Apurva.

Karthik Giddu wrote:

> HI Gang,
> First hand information on my train(1063 Dadar Chennai Express)
derailment
> at Ambarnath(3 stations beyond Kalyan on the Bombay-Pune link)

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Anti Collision Device on the KR

Date: 16 Oct 1999 01:49:14 -0500




> Apurva,
>
> This was just in the press here about a week ago. NYC is considering
> this system for the subways. The train can be "driverless" and follow
> other train at very close distances depending on the speed and weight.
>

The KR device will not depend on any other computer, just the locos by
themselves.
I heard the news later again and the figure is still 2 Kms between the
locos.
I do agree the Jishnu that this distance is peanuts, literally seconds
before an imminent
collision. However I think this is a technology demonstrator rather than
the production
item. The ACD does allow automatic brake application if the driver does
not react to the
warnings.
This device may be fine in the sparsely populated KR section, however
when the KR train
enters Mumbai area, the driver would be driven to distraction by the
sheer number of trains
showing up on his ACD in the 2 Kms radius.

Apurva

From: John Lacey <>

Subject: Re: Info. from 1934 Bradshaw

Date: 16 Oct 1999 02:34:03 -0500


Coincidentally, I very recently read an item in the Locomotive Magazine
( 1929, p 276) regarding the acceleration of the Frontier Mail following
the introduction of the XC class. The Bombay Colaba to Delhi Central
times were reduced to 23h 35mins, an average of 37 mph inclusive of all
stops . There was also a reduction to four locomotive changes from 5.
These stages were:
Bombay-Baroda 248 miles
Baroda-Shamgarh 246 miles
Shamgarh-Sawai Madhopur 150 miles
Sawai M.-Delhi 224 miles

John Lacey

From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: (no subject)

Date: 16 Oct 1999 03:46:56 -0500


Hello,
I've just dug out a set of ten postcards I'd picked up at the nrm in
Nov.1997, showing some nice views of old Bombay.
I've put them into a small site:

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/bbci.htm">http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/bbci.htm</A>

Check it out. I've still got to add a hits counter, do some fine tuning
etc. I think the background image has slowed down the download time a
great deal. I might consider removing it.

Check it out for whatever its worth.
Cheers.
Shankar

From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: Re: My train derailed yesterday.

Date: 16 Oct 1999 03:48:11 -0500


Hello,
The Heavens be praised. Thank goodness you are safe.
Cheers.
Shankar

Karthik Giddu wrote:
>
> HI Gang,
> First hand information on my train(1063 Dadar Chennai Express)
derailment
> at Ambarnath(3 stations beyond Kalyan on the Bombay-Pune link)
>
> I was to go Madras after 1 yr gap to see my cousins. I boarded the
train at
> 7.50 at the dadar termius. I had booked a 3AC berth. The train started
on
> time and reached Kalyan at 8.55 pm. My tickets were checked my the TC,
I
> gave order for night dinner and morning breakfast before Kalyan had
> arrived. I even got the beddings. After 10 minutes stop i started
again and
> went on smoothly and with 20 minutes in to the journey from Kalyan,
all of
> sudden my coach started to rumble violently. It lasted for 20-30
> seconds(like an earthquake) and the last thing i knew as we had
derailed
> and the coach was dangling at a angle of 30-35 degrees. All the people
in
> my bay/coach were shaken apart and screaming. My coach was 5th from
the
> engine. I got on the coach quickly and gave a helping hand to get the
> people wanting to come out. The 4th coach from the engine a hybrid
> coach(2AC and 1AC combined) slightly hit the station and bore the
burnt of
> the derailment. The doors got jammed and windows had to be broken to
get
> the people out of there. Near by people in 5 minutes got cowbars and
broke
> the windows of the coach. They only gave us our luguages still trapped
> inside our coaches. All the people in my coach were safe with no
injuries.
> The loco(WCAM3) and 2 coaches went 40-50 meters before stopping. The
2AC
> coach(3rd from engine) was standing upright, it had not derailed.
>
> I took 5 photos of the scene. But it will take some time for me to put
it
> on my site as i need to complete the roll!!!!!!!!!
>
> As I take in Kandivli(Western suburb), afterwards I took a auto and
reached
> Kalyan Station expecting the local trains to work.... But sadly no
trains
> were operating for the 10 minutes I stayed in the platform and no
> annoucement were made about the operating the trains. The only
annoucement
> was that train services between and Kalyan and Ambarnath has been
suspended
> till further notice. I had my this time made friendship with one of
the
> co-passengers. So we took one more auto to take me to Mulund. From
there we
> took a taxi to reach our place, he got down at Andheri and I later
reached
> my house at 1.20 am(the time I should be somewhere near Daund)
>
> I spent from Ambarnath the 3/4 eqivalent of the Bombay-Madras 3AC fare
> around Rs 700 to reach home.
>
> I was cursing the CR for doing nothing to help the passengers enough
though
> it a local bound for VT was standing but no annoucement was made about
when
> that train will depart. I end my tru e-life story here.
>
> Karthik
> <A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com/">http://gidduk.tripod.com/</A>
> +91-22-8014919

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Female railfans

Date: 16 Oct 1999 06:08:36 -0500




Royston Ellis wrote:

> Gang:
>
> I'm fascinated by Annie's revelations about female railfans (as well
as
> puzzled as to what a "transsexual" is).
>
> It leads me to wonder if there is any common link in the sexual
orientation
> of MALE rail fans, Indian or otherwise.
>
> I was once told by the leader of a group of male, British "gricers"
(rail
> fanatics) on a visit to Sri Lanka, that he believed his group, all
> bachelors, had no interest in sex at all, only rail.

Maybe true, there is definite link between railways and my little friend
-
objects of pleasure - id etc.
The definition that I have is that a gricer is a small pig that pushes
its
(curious) snout at anything railways.

Apurva

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