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From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: Green paint

Date: 14 Oct 1999 10:56:44 -0500


Hi Apurva and Gang,
>
>Green YDM 4s are quite common from the Golden Rock shed, It is the
green
>WDM
>2s that are quite rare.
I guess not!! GOC is following the same scheme for WDM2s also. I
would
have seen atleast 3-4 WDM2s belonging to GOC on the Erode-PGT section
last
year around, during my visit to Kochi. Infact my Allepey-Chennai was
hauled
by a green WDM2 from Allepey till Erode. Infact 2 months back i saw a
mixed
freight(wagons and coaches) load passing through Guindy station on the
new
MAS-TRY BG line hauled by a green WDM2 presumably from GOC.
Interestingly
there was one overhauled, old, flat sided inspection cars of yester
years
attached to it. Wonder how easy it is to maintain those vintage bogies.

Kind regards,
Anand

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From: S.SRINIVAS <>

Subject: Re: progress of some railway projects

Date: 14 Oct 1999 11:19:43 -0500


Hi gang

here's some more info added to the data provided
by Sankaran Kumar.

Regards

S. SRINIVAS

-----------------

Sankaran Kumar wrote:

> Jolarpettai-Vaniyambadi Third Line.
>
> Another tender advertisement indicated that a third line was going to
be
> laid between jolarpettai and Vaniyambadi on the Jolarpettai-Katpadi
section.
>

It is not going to be any third line between Kettandapatti and
Vaniyambadi. It is the railway's idea to bring the alignments of up
and down
lines together.
After the work on the third line is completed, the existing down
line
between
these two stations will be abandoned.

The present track alignment of up and down lines run away from each
other for about six kms. The railways feel that the two should be
together.
Reason - in case of any accident, the relief train (on the other
track)
could
reach the accident spot.

They must remember the accident in 1981 in the same section when the
Thiruvenantapuram - Chennai mail bumped into some goods wagons
which had got separated from the main goods train running on the up
line
and the Yercaud Exp., running on the down track, collided with the
derailed wreck which had blocked both up and down tracks.

If the first accident had occurred just about a km from the actual
spot
(at the place where the up and down lines got separated), there was
some chance that the second crash would not have occurred. Now the
Railways want to eliminate that probability of safety ! All in the
name of
accident relief. And spending a lot of money too.

> Chennai MRTS
>
> The pillar work seems to have been completed at least upto
Thiruvanmiyur on
> the proposed Thirumayilai - Velacheri section. The approval of the
> Velacheri-St. Thomas Mount section appears imminent; it is likely that
the
> MRTS St. Thomas Mount station will be at a different level and the
merging
> of the tracks with the existing Tambaram line would take place at
> palavanthangal and/or Guindy. There is also pressure to connect
Guindy with
> Villivakkam on the Arakkonam line, particularly since the Chennai Bus
> Station is going to be shifted to Koyambedu, south of Anna Nagar.
Also the
> TN govt. is actively canvassing for a direct Central-Egmore elevated
line
> (just 2 km long).
>

A big delegations of RITES officers and Railway Board Members
visited the
areas of Guindey, St. Thomas Mount, Nanganallur and
Tambaram areas about a couple of months ago to decide on the
linkage between MRTS and the Egmore to Chingalpet main BG
line. Most likely, the merging will be at or beyond Tambaram.

The two km elevated track linking the dead end railway tracks
of Madras Central and the Tambaram - Egmore BG line at
Madras Park (and maybe to the MRTS too) will be a really
great accomplishment. It will enable running of through trains
from North to the extreme South. Somehow, running these
trains via Beach Station looks drab. This linkage will also
permit running of EMU's - both to Egmore/Tambaram and
MRTS/Tambaram. Let us all believe in such miracles.

In fact, when I saw huge coloumns being erected in Central
near to P.F. 7/8/9, I was hoping it was some such project.
It tunred out to be merely extending the P.F. and providing
a large waiting hall. Good thing about this new building is
that it matches the design of the original Central Station.

From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: What will Mamata do?

Date: 14 Oct 1999 15:21:44 -0500


There are some hints on what she might do in the Statesman of today.
Here are
some excerpts about what she is saying and doing:

"For Miss Banerjee, taking up expansion of the Metro Railway in Calcutta
is a
priority as the proposed project falls in her constituency."

[my comment: Mamata Banerjee's constituency is Calcutta South, which
includes
the Southern half of the Metro line, including a significant part of the
extension from Tollygunj to New Garia, on which construction is about to
begin.
It also includes the Bondel Gate and Lake Gardens flyovers].

"Completion of Digha- Tamluk railway track comes next as she has already
made
inroads into Midnapore district . Linking north Bengal with a superfast
express
is also a must, as she needs to break into the Left and Congress
strongholds
there."

"On the first day of her stint as Union Railway Minister she summoned
the
Railway Board officers to talk about these projects. She even called the
entire
staff of the Howrah-Delhi Rajdhani Express to persuade them to give
better
service to the passengers."

"She directed the railway officers to immediately write to the West
Bengal
government, enquiring about the pending flyovers at Lake Gardens and
Bondel
Gate, so that work on these projects could be taken up immediately."


By the way, this answers one of the questions that we had been
struggling with.
Clearly the Tamluk - Digha line has not been completed yet. Both Lake
Gardens
and Bondel Gate had also come up in our discussions of track alignments
around
Calcutta in IRFCA.

Cheers,

Jishnu.

From: Tim & Anita Wakeman <>

Subject: Re: Female Railfans

Date: 14 Oct 1999 20:45:50 -0500


Don Mills wrote:
>
> I don't know but I think I posted several months back that my wife was
the
> orginal railfan in our family, her father worked for the Chesapeake &
Ohio
> Railroad in the States. She grew up playing on famous engines like
C&O's
> 1308 and their 490. Over here in the states many of the women
railfans are
> the most zealous. If I remember correctly, Apurva's wife is also a
> railfan. I seem to have a picture of her onboard a WDM engine.
>
> Perhaps the women railfans seemingly are quieter as they know that we
will
> do the grunt work and they will enjoy the fruits of our labor.
(Making
> them the smarter of the two I might add.)
> Don in WV


Don,

What you say is true. These two women are the only ones I ever came
across in my 26 years of railfanning that were out on their OWN
photographing trains. I do know of two others that did it One was a
friend who being female taught me much about seeing snd photographing
trains in different ways to make it more pleasing for the general
public. The other is my mother who till this day still goes out to shoot
a train if I'm not around and something special is going by. Thanks,
Mom. If a woman likes trains, I think they mostly keep it in the closet
because it IS a mostly male dominated hobby. Too bad. We men could learn
a lot from them as they tend to see things differently. Apurvas' wife
said she is more into the travel by train now. This is very
understandable. Most women that I have met travelling by train, love
trains! I dought if you would see them trackside by themselves. My wife
said to me a few months ago,"I can not believe I'm going to tell you
this, but there are time s where I feel like going out to see a train!"
I was shocked! I'll be more in shock when the day comes and she steps
into the house and say she just caught the OIPI with 2 Norfolk Southern
C40-9ws and 78 cars. We'll see.

Tim

From: San-Ind <>

Subject: New "Trains At a Glance Timetable" ~~~~

Date: 14 Oct 1999 21:41:14 -0500


I think every-body had read the new "Trains At a Glance Timetable" ???

ISn't every -body feel that it had lot of missing information.... which
confuse any one.... who had to travel between intermediate
stations......
Like Table 2, in previous time-tables it had contained all trains
between
stretches like Delhi-Itarsi, Delhi-Agra Jhansi-Itarsi etc. It was full
of
details of each & every train which even pass through some small
section.... But now they had divided it into 3-4 parts like different
for
Chennai/Hyderabad, Mumbai CST, Sambalpur etc. So if someone have to
travel
between New Delhi & Gwalior has to see 4-5 tables isn't it confusing &
difficult ?????
There are lot of confusions every where in this timetable.....

Official say that it is user friendly & for ordinary man !!!

What all think about it ?????
Regards

Sandeep



____( \ .-' `-. / )____
(____ \_____ / (O O) \ _____/ ____)
(____ `-----( ) )-----' ____)
(____ _____________\ \____/ /_____________ ____)
(______/ `-.____.-' \______)

"A part of you has grown in me,
together forever we shall be,
never apart,
maybe in distance,
but not in heart"
~unknown

From: San-Ind <>

Subject: Northern Railway Official Site !!!

Date: 14 Oct 1999 21:41:23 -0500


Recently i had visited the New Railway site of Northern Railway.....
<A HREF="http://nr.railnet.gov.in">http://nr.railnet.gov.in</A>

I had visited it today only.... It seems that it is still
under-construction......

Regards
Sandeep



____( \ .-' `-. / )____
(____ \_____ / (O O) \ _____/ ____)
(____ `-----( ) )-----' ____)
(____ _____________\ \____/ /_____________ ____)
(______/ `-.____.-' \______)

"A part of you has grown in me,
together forever we shall be,
never apart,
maybe in distance,
but not in heart"
~unknown

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: Female Railfans

Date: 14 Oct 1999 23:42:09 -0500



Many of women railfans I know either have a partner who
is a railfan or formerly had a partner who was one, but not
by any means all. A suprising number met and married or formed
partnerships
with
men who were fans after becoming fans themselves - I think we
sometimes assume women are there because of their husbands
when we meet them in these environments, but often a woman
modeller is seen as a 'catch' by a man who worries about balancing
marriage and modelling.
I know several elderly women who had jobs on the RR in WWII and still
fondly
remember them,
and a number of women who have or had jobs more recently.
For some it was a side turn from an interest in history.
A few had train obsessed children and became more or less interested
in the trains themselves.

One real cultural difference between men and women is between 'being'
and
'doing',
and many women bring this to their railfanning - often being more
content to
go along with whatever's happening. This often comes across as 'going
along' -
just being there because the men in their lives are. But, I've found,
for
many of
these women their interest is quite genuine.
For example, imagine I became involved with a man who built model boats.
Now
I'm not intrinsicly all that interested in model boats, but I like
models of
all sorts and
I'd probably be quite content to fiddle with my husband's boat, make
parts
for it,
get the electronics running, etc., not only because it's something I
could
do with him,
but simply cause it sounds like a fun thing to do.
I suspect we all choose our interests, more than we suspect, based on
what's
presented
as possible, on what BF Skinner would call a 'script'.
Lest this essay not get any longer than it already is, I'll leave off
the
topic of cultural differences
between India and the US here.

I thought it'd be interesting to go down the list of women railfans &
modellers I know
and see how they got into the hobby. Unsuprisingly I know more modellers
than railfans.

Kathy - husband is model RRer
Dawn - just lived near the tracks, became interested in the
trains going by.
Cindy W - don't know. Generally 'mechanically' inclined, builds
various sorts of models, but
is a knowledgable railfan and a professional HO
loco
builder.
Margaret - had train obsessed child, became interested herself (I
know
a couple women like this),
also worked for RR during WWII
Cindy S - ex husband was a railfan
Shyam - husband is railfan
Angela - don't know
Rachel - hanging around me, she was building robots and needed
access to tools/skills
Jennifer - ex husband and she built model RR as an activity they
could do togather,
then she got re-involved hanging around me.
Mia - don't know
Shirley - started out history buff
Lora - history buff, got involved with historic
preservation.
Sharon - reporter, did a report about model RRing that turned
into
more
Emily - works for UPRR
'chu chu' - don't know
me - transsexual, introduced as child
Linda - works for RR
Tammy - works for FRA
WFW women - lesbian couple, one worked for RR, both are railfans
Denise - history buff, just 'bought one of those abc's of model
RRing books one day'
Beverly - don't know , subsequently married a modeller.
???? - met this woman (I was reading a model RR mag, she came
up
and talked)
once at a restaurant.
Barb - husband is modeller
Val - 'just thought it'd be so cool to have a little
layout'
??? - started out collecting models of tools.
Mary Ellen - liked horses, became the 'engineer' of the horse drawn
railway at Ardenwood
Margaret E. - photographer.
Candice - makes IC's for a living, 'just likes small stuff' (has
Z
scale train)


Annie

From: Milind Thekedar <>

Subject: Unsubscribe

Date: 15 Oct 1999 00:43:13 -0500


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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Female Railfans

Date: 15 Oct 1999 01:09:48 -0500


Virtually all the ladies I know would gladly do 'footplating' at least
once, if
given half a chance. Unfortunately the driver cadre is specially
sensitive to
let a lady on board lest they should be 'distracted'. This is a deep
routed
Indian male viewpoint.

Apurva

Anne Ogborn wrote:

> Many of women railfans I know either have a partner who
> is a railfan or formerly had a partner who was one, but not
> by any means all. A suprising number met and married or formed
partnerships
> with
> men who were fans after becoming fans themselves -

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Modified ERS shed webpage

Date: 15 Oct 1999 01:39:26 -0500


Dear Gang,

Please go through the modified Ernakulam shed webpages. It contains a lot of new info. Please note that the unique WDM 7 is held only by the ERS shed.
<<A HREF="http://business.vsnl.com/locomotive/>">http://business.vsnl.com/locomotive/></A>

Quote from the website

WDM7 Branch Line Locomotive

These Loco's are identified with number series 11001 to 11015. There are only 15
Locomotives of this kind in Indian Railways. They are used for hauling the passenger
trains, mainly in the state of Kerala.

These locomotive were designed to replace the Steam Locomotives being phased out
from Broad Gauge branch line service.

These locomotives are powered by single 251 B type, 12 cylinder diesel engine
developing 1977 CV at 1000 rpm under standard conditions (20*C-Sea level).

Initially ten locomotives were equipped with electric transmission
consisting of one DC shunt wound, separately excited self ventilated 10
poles main traction generator, and six axle hung, nose suspended, DC
series force ventilated 4-pole traction motors for a full power speed of
105 KMPH operating with 94:17 gear raio. These locomotives are not provided with
dynamic brake.

The eleventh locomotive and onwards are provided with electric tansmission consisting
of one AC, 3-phase, star connected, separately excited, self ventilated, 10 pole main
traction alternator and six traction motors of same description as the first ten
locomotives for full power speed of 100 KMPH operating with 94:17 gear ratio. The
eleventh locomotive and onwards are provided with dynamic brake.

The underframe is of all welded construnction comprising of two box section main
beams with integral fuel tank at the centre, with suitable transverse bracings and
stretchers at load points. The underframe is capable of with standing buffing load of 400
t.

The locomotive is equipped with two 3-axle bogies of trimount type full equalised, fitted
with individual traction motors on all axles. This bogie is similar to WDM2 bogie.

Only 15 of these locomotives has been manufactured at DLW and all of them are homed
at Ernakulam Diesel Locomotive Shed.
Unquote

Note that the 11th loco (out of the 15) onwards have dynamic brakes - which explains Bharat's observation that some WDM 7s have short hoods without grills while some of them have grills and are virtually indistinguishable from a WDM 2.
Check out some more pics of the WDM 7 on Bharat's NMR, SR and KR website:
<<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~railinindia/south.html>">http://members.tripod.com/~railinindia/south.html></A>

Keep up the good work Ajay !

Yours is the only loco shed hosting a website - I hope to convince the Pune shed (diesel and electric) to take similar initiative after showing them your site. 

From: Karthik Giddu <>

Subject: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 06:16:22 -0500


HI Folks,
Part of WDP2 photos are put on my website at <A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com">http://gidduk.tripod.com</A>
Click gallery and select anand photos.
The photos were taken by Anand IS during his recent visit to south
India.
The page will be revamped after more photos are added by this month end.

Also I am now going to Madras more photos will follow soon. Bye. It is
getting late for my train.
Karthik

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: News from Rediff

Date: 15 Oct 1999 07:04:45 -0500


Shimla before the snow
Northern Railways, in association with Himachal Tourism, offers a four
day
and five night tour to Shimla, Naldehra, Chail and Narkanda from
December
10.
The package is priced at:
* Rs 7,100 per adult and Rs 3,700 per child for travel in a first
class air conditioned coach.
* Rs 5,700 per adult and Rs 3,050 per child for travel in a second
class air conditioned coach.
The package includes Delhi-Shimla-Delhi rail fare, accommodation on twin
sharing basis, sightseeing and meals.
The itinerary:
Departure every Friday from the Old Delhi Railway station by Kalka Mail
at
2250 hours. Passengers will be offered welcome drinks- tea, coffee, cold
drinks and ice creams- at the railway lounge before departure.
* Day 1, Saturday.
* 0500 hours: Arrive at Kalka Railway station. Depart for Shimla
after
tea. Breakfast at the Barog Railway Station.
* 1130 hours: Arrive at Shimla. Check-in at Hotel Holiday Home.
Lunch
and sightseeing.
* Day 2, Sunday.
* 0930 hours: Depart for Naldehra after breakfast. Sightseeing.
* 1300 hours: Lunch. Depart for Chail. Check-in at Palace Hotel
* Day 3, Monday.
* 0930 hours: Breakfast, sightseeing.
* 1300 hours: Lunch. Depart for Narkanda. Sightseeing. Check-in at
Hotel Hatu.
* Day 4, Thursday.
* 1200 hours: Arrive at Shimla. Lunch.
* 1630 hours: Depart for Kalka. Dinner at Barog Railway station.
* 2330 hours: Depart for New Delhi.
Reservations are open and tickets can be purchased from any computerised
reservation terminal. HPTDC, Chandralok Building, 36, Janpath, New
Delhi.
Phone: 011-3324764.
The Mall, Shimla. Phone: 0177-252704.
Bombay: 022-2181123.
Madras: 044-8272966.
Bangalore: 080-287659.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Anti Collision Device on the KR

Date: 15 Oct 1999 08:45:09 -0500


Gang !

A news just on the Star TV showed a new and unique device developed and
patented by
the Konkan Railway. This microprocessor beacon would be fitted in each
locomotive.
That would tag the train number, whether up or down and if on the
correct and wrong
line. A pair of locomotive within 2 Kms of each other would have a
warning flashed on
the other loco's ACD. Then the two drivers can talk to each other on the
radio. The
news claimed that such a device would get rid of the dangers of front,
rear and side
collisions. The drivers themselves can take a decision without depending
on a third
agency.
I wonder which shed would implement this device for the KR, the upcoming
loco shed at
Verna (Goa) ?
Is there no similar device fitted on an American or European loco or do
they depend on
the foolproof track circuiting to stay out of each other's way :-) ?

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 08:49:26 -0500


WHoa - I can take only a few shocks at any one time - this is too much -
a feast of
WDP 2. My complements to Anand for sharing a morsel from the huge wealth
of IR info
with him and many thanks to Karthik to actually make a webpage for him.
Please try and
introduce Anand to this new fangled thing called the computer.

Apurva

Karthik Giddu wrote:

> HI Folks,
> Part of WDP2 photos are put on my website at <A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com">http://gidduk.tripod.com</A>
> Click gallery and select anand photos.
> The photos were taken by Anand IS during his recent visit to south
> India.
> The page will be revamped after more photos are added by this month
end.
>
> Also I am now going to Madras more photos will follow soon. Bye. It is
> getting late for my train.
> Karthik

From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Anti Collision Device on the KR

Date: 15 Oct 1999 09:44:04 -0500


Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Gang !
>
> A news just on the Star TV showed a new and unique device
> developed and patented by the Konkan Railway. This
> microprocessor beacon would be fitted in each locomotive.
> That would tag the train number, whether up or down
> and if on the correct and wrong line. A pair of
> locomotive within 2 Kms of each other would have a
> warning flashed on the other loco's ACD. Then the
> two drivers can talk to each other on the radio. The
> news claimed that such a device would get rid of
> the dangers of front, rear and side collisions.
> The drivers themselves can take a decision without
> depending on a third agency.

For this to work effectively in all cases, trains would have to run real
slow,
given the 2km range of this device. Two trains running towards each
other at
120kph each, have a closing speed of 240kph, so the drivers will get to
know of
each other 15 seconds before they pile into each other. Not much time to
talk,
decide and apply brakes.

Now the microprocessor could conceivably intervene and apply the brakes
without
intervention of the driver when it perceives a danger, but still 2 km in
a
headon collision situation is a pretty short distance. Also I don't know
how the
microprocessor can decide whether a side-on collision is imminent
without
knowing the track layout and setting of the points ahead.

Having said that, I think such a device could reduce the chances of a
certain
set of accidents.

I also think that just giving each driver a two way radio in the
locomotive and
requiring them to call out each block as they pass them and any other
signficant
events like derailment etc., with train identity, track and direction on
a
common single radio frequency would go further in keeping drivers alert
to the
situation around them than all these fancy devices. It might also be
cheaper and
easier to maintain. This technique is used quite effectively in the US
in so
called "dark territory", i.e. tracks that have no signals. Under this
regime
trains are allowed to operate at upto 55mph, if I am not mistaken.

Other interesting question is, what are the failure modes of this
device? What
operational changes need to be put in effect when this device fails,
which they
will as long as good old Mr. Murphy and his law is alive.

> I wonder which shed would implement this device for the KR,
> the upcoming loco shed at Verna (Goa) ?
> Is there no similar device fitted on an American or
> European loco or do they depend on the foolproof track
> circuiting to stay out of each other's way :-)?

The 110mph singalling scheme that is being trialed between Gary IN and
Kalamazoo
MI by Amtrak is based on a combination of GPS, satellite radio link and
trackside beacons, which provides Automatic Trains Stop and Automatic
Speed
Regulation that is necessary to meet the FRA mandate for allowing
operation at
speeds greater than 79mph.

The GPS and satellite link part is already deployed across the Amtrak
network,
so that the Central Control at Wilmington DE knows the exact location of
all
trains at all times, and soon they will have two way direct radio link
to all
trains too, including a data link, that will allow conductors to sell
unoccupied
accommodation en-route and record these in the central reservation
database.

Jishnu.

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: New "Trains At a Glance Timetable" ~~~~

Date: 15 Oct 1999 10:24:28 -0500


> -----Original Message-----
> From: San-Ind [SMTP:docqcs@nde.email
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:41 AM
> To: Vijay Balasubramanian
> Cc: irfca@cs.email
> Subject: New "Trains At a Glance Timetable" ~~~~
>
> I think every-body had read the new "Trains At a Glance Timetable" ???
>
> ISn't every -body feel that it had lot of missing information....
which
> confuse any one.... who had to travel between intermediate
stations......
> Like Table 2, in previous time-tables it had contained all trains
between
> stretches like Delhi-Itarsi, Delhi-Agra Jhansi-Itarsi etc. It was
full of
> details of each & every train which even pass through some small
> section.... But now they had divided it into 3-4 parts like different
for
> Chennai/Hyderabad, Mumbai CST, Sambalpur etc. So if someone have to
> travel
> between New Delhi & Gwalior has to see 4-5 tables isn't it confusing &
> difficult ?????
> There are lot of confusions every where in this timetable.....
>
You are absolutely right, Sandeep. What I found irritating is their
decision to avoid data-duplication so as to present only dedicated
trains
for a particular section. To compensate for that, they have a
comprehensive
station index that mentions all tables where a particular station has
been
referenced and the various trains that provide a link between that
station
and others. So, one may have to do multiple searches to find out the
complete schedule.

On the positive side, here are some things that I like about the TAAG
besides the station index -
- Wider layout and lines drawn between adjacent stations to clearly
associate the halt times with the station concerned.
- Attractive print.
- Comprehensive train index.
- Days of operation and classes clearly mentioned below each train in
each
table.
- Reference to other tables where a particular train can be looked-up to
locate its schedule in other sections.
- Precise information about Reservation rules, passenger amenities, etc.
- I love the huge map with clear indication of junctions, branch-off
points
and bypasses.

Overall, a job well-done!!

Vijay


> Official say that it is user friendly & for ordinary man !!!
>
> What all think about it ?????
> Regards
>
> Sandeep
>
>
>
> ____( \ .-' `-. / )____
> (____ \_____ / (O O) \ _____/ ____)
> (____ `-----( ) )-----' ____)
> (____ _____________\ \____/ /_____________ ____)
> (______/ `-.____.-' \______)
>
> "A part of you has grown in me,
> together forever we shall be,
> never apart,
> maybe in distance,
> but not in heart"
> ~unknown

From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 11:20:32 -0500


Hello Karthik,
Most interesting. Why don't they build all diesels this way?
Egmore has lost its electric-only status, I now see.

Nice pics. But I note a few points:

1.In pic # 2, a light blue band appears just below the WDM/2.
2. Pic # 5 is not hyperlinked.
3.The caption in pic # 7 seems to be incorrect, as #7 and #12 are one
and the same image. The pic in #7 is definitely the interior of a YAM/1.

Nice to see that backrests are being provided to our poor drivers after
all. It must be thrilling to drive one of these beasts at 160 kmph!

Cheers.
Shankar




Karthik Giddu wrote:
>
> HI Folks,
> Part of WDP2 photos are put on my website at <A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com">http://gidduk.tripod.com</A>
> Click gallery and select anand photos.
> The photos were taken by Anand IS during his recent visit to south
> India.
> The page will be revamped after more photos are added by this month
end.
>
> Also I am now going to Madras more photos will follow soon. Bye. It is
> getting late for my train.
> Karthik

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 11:21:34 -0500


A few pictures do not expand from the thumbnails. The picture of Anand
in the cab with
his paws on the power controller
(<A HREF="http://gidduk.tripod.com/anand/photo7.htm)is">http://gidduk.tripod.com/anand/photo7.htm)is</A>
actually in the cab of the YAM 1 and not the WDP 2 as labelled. The WDP
2 has left
driving position and a T stick master controller. The WDP 2 is get to
get the thick
bar grills for the windscreen. May not be required in the gentle south.

Apurva

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos

Date: 15 Oct 1999 12:07:08 -0500


> -----Original Message-----
> From: S.Shankar [SMTP:shankie@emirates.email
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 2:21 PM
> To: Karthik Giddu
> Cc: irfca@cs.email
> Subject: Re: WDP2 Photos
>
> Hello Karthik,
> Most interesting. Why don't they build all diesels this way?
> Egmore has lost its electric-only status, I now see.
>
> Nice pics. But I note a few points:
>
> 1.In pic # 2, a light blue band appears just below the WDM/2.
> 2. Pic # 5 is not hyperlinked.
>
Correct. And the actual picture is at
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/gidduk/anand/11.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/gidduk/anand/11.jpg</A>

> 3.The caption in pic # 7 seems to be incorrect, as #7 and #12 are one
> and the same image. The pic in #7 is definitely the interior of a
YAM/1.
>
Actual picture for #7 is missing.

BTW, there is a non-linked picture at
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/gidduk/anand/12.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/gidduk/anand/12.jpg</A>
What is this machine? Seems to be coupled to a WDM2.

Vijay

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: One more IR link

Date: 15 Oct 1999 12:41:18 -0500


Check out <A HREF="http://www.welcometoindia.com/travel/intro.html">http://www.welcometoindia.com/travel/intro.html</A>
Has a photo of the Pune Shatabdi with matching WCM5
and the WAP1 (seems identical to a shot in No Problem Sahib)

Vijay

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