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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Bhore ghat pictures

Date: 16 Jun 1999 08:39:20 -0500


Gang !

Please check out some pictures of Bhore ghat on the Mumbai - Pune line
on my site. Let
me know pronto if a link does not work.
Go to:
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
and click on the last two links.

Apurva

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: A Handful of snaps !!

Date: 16 Jun 1999 10:39:25 -0500


Hi all,
Just managed to put up a few of my snaps that i took during my
recent
trip to Chennai. Comments/criticisms are welcome. The 16 commandments
for
taking snaps that was put up in the list a couple of days back was
followed
to a great extent. You could see it for urself at
<A HREF="http://members.xoom.com/railweb/index.htm">http://members.xoom.com/railweb/index.htm</A>

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Bhore ghat pics

Date: 16 Jun 1999 18:03:28 -0500


Gang !

Please check out some pictures of Bhore ghat on the Mumbai - Pune line
on my
site. Let
me know pronto if a link does not work.
Go to:
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
and click on the last two links.

Apurva

From: Karthik Giddu <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pics

Date: 17 Jun 1999 00:05:35 -0500


Hi Apurva,
Great pictures. Where the pictures up on the site previously. Where u
people
camped the whole day for taking these snaps.
A suggestion, It will be great idea if we(irfca members in india) can
plan
such a trip to Konkan Railway.
Bye,
Karthik
----- Original Message -----
From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 6:33 AM
Subject: Bhore ghat pics


> Gang !
>
> Please check out some pictures of Bhore ghat on the Mumbai - Pune line
on
my
> site. Let
> me know pronto if a link does not work.
> Go to:
> <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
> and click on the last two links.
>
> Apurva
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pics

Date: 17 Jun 1999 01:34:25 -0500


> It will be great idea if we(irfca members in india) can plan
> such a trip to Konkan Railway.


Great idea Karthik. Lets do it after the monsoons.

Viraf

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pics

Date: 17 Jun 1999 01:49:37 -0500



Don Mills wrote:

> apurva,
> On your web page, the picture with you and three others on the car,
> On the BFR is that dual Braking wheels at the top of the car? If
not, what
> is the other wheel for? How did you guys get to ride on top of the
car.
> Was this a legal ride or where you acting out the role of a hobo?

Don, the BFR is the flat car that we are on. The other wagon is a
ballast
carrier. The wheels open the discharge hoppers at the bottom. We had got
stuck
in the ghats because the Pune bound trains were all held up due to a
derailment.
So this maintenance rake was actually a life saver for us. Had this
train not
arrived, we would have to wait (without food or water) for the traffic
to start
moving, or walk back 11 Kms in the approaching evening through many
unlit
tunnels. It was already 1700 Hrs in the evening.
Normally we would not be riding the BFR, but thank god we got some ride
out of
the ghats.

Apurva

From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: KR Trip!

Date: 17 Jun 1999 01:56:14 -0500


Hi!,

Apurva, Viraf , Karthik & many others likely to join in.....

On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, VIRAF P.. MULLA wrote:

> > It will be great idea if we(irfca members in india) can plan
> > such a trip to Konkan Railway.

> Great idea Karthik. Lets do it after the monsoons.
> Viraf

Yes, I too am on for this trip!

Shrinivas

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pictures

Date: 17 Jun 1999 02:05:18 -0500



The Nagnath catch siding pictures were taken after walking through the
service
tunnel between Thakurwadi and Nagnath. Actually the service tunnel opens
at the
upper end of the catch siding. The Monkey Hill catch siding pics are
taken by
Dr. Shirish Yande. This was part of the Model Railway Society of Pune's
outing
to study the catch siding.

Our trip's itinerary was Pune - Monkey Hill 7304 Up Sahyadri Express
Monkey Hill - Thakurwadi : walking
Thakurwadi - Nagnath: through the service tunnel
Nagnath - Thakurwadi: Back through the service tunnel
Thakurwadi - Lonavala: By the PWI's rake

I am not sure of the MRSP's itinerary except that they went from Pune to
Monkey
Hill by 1010 Up Sinhagad Express. I think they returned to Khandala
walking and
then took the 1009 Dn Sinhagad to Pune.
Since these pics were taken without a narrative element in mind, they
appear
disconnected and random in nature. In contrast are my Wankaner pics
which were
being taken with the purpose of creating a webpage - so they are more
cohesive.
I am telling you this, because you have the great potential to make
terrific
webpages of IR in action.

Apurva

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: A Handful of snaps !!

Date: 17 Jun 1999 02:14:02 -0500


Hi all,

>Some notes:
>- The first WAP4, 22264 was interesting. I've seen 22265 at Howrah
(based
>at
>ASN, I believe), and it's always interesting to see how far apart
>consecutively numbered locos can end up.
Yes that is a very interesting observation, but i guess SR
and
SCR have been getting these Locos only recently , say 2 years back and
it
might be possible that a Loco from ASN, which would have housed these
Locos
from the beginning, could have been relocated to SCR at LGD or SR at
AJJ.

>- The A/C loco shot is tough to see. If it's possible, could you please

>scan
>the picture at, say, 300 dpi, crop it to the area with the locos, and
>publish that without shrinking it?
Yes Shanku i shall try doing it, i tried resizing the image
but
it was blured, i shall try it and put it up soon. Actually there are
four-five Locos in the picture but the distance was too much, mine was
just
a miniature 35mm Yashica and i feared losing all of them in case i shot
them
a little further down.


>- Is the Saptagiri Exp. loco a WAM4?
Yes it is a WAM4

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: A Handful of snaps !!

Date: 17 Jun 1999 02:14:02 -0500


Hi all,

>Some notes:
>- The first WAP4, 22264 was interesting. I've seen 22265 at Howrah
(based
>at
>ASN, I believe), and it's always interesting to see how far apart
>consecutively numbered locos can end up.
Yes that is a very interesting observation, but i guess SR
and
SCR have been getting these Locos only recently , say 2 years back and
it
might be possible that a Loco from ASN, which would have housed these
Locos
from the beginning, could have been relocated to SCR at LGD or SR at
AJJ.

>- The A/C loco shot is tough to see. If it's possible, could you please

>scan
>the picture at, say, 300 dpi, crop it to the area with the locos, and
>publish that without shrinking it?
Yes Shanku i shall try doing it, i tried resizing the image
but
it was blured, i shall try it and put it up soon. Actually there are
four-five Locos in the picture but the distance was too much, mine was
just
a miniature 35mm Yashica and i feared losing all of them in case i shot
them
a little further down.


>- Is the Saptagiri Exp. loco a WAM4?
Yes it is a WAM4

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pics

Date: 17 Jun 1999 02:24:18 -0500


Thanks Karthik for the complements. Please also let Dr.Shirish Yande
<yandesh@vsnl.email know that you like his pictures (on the Monkey Hill
catch
siding page).

Apurva

Karthik Giddu wrote:

> Hi Apurva,
> Great pictures. Where the pictures up on the site previously. Where u
people
> camped the whole day for taking these snaps.
> A suggestion, It will be great idea if we(irfca members in india) can
plan
> such a trip to Konkan Railway.
> Bye,
> Karthik
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 6:33 AM
> Subject: Bhore ghat pics
>
> > Gang !
> >
> > Please check out some pictures of Bhore ghat on the Mumbai - Pune
line on
> my
> > site. Let
> > me know pronto if a link does not work.
> > Go to:
> > <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
> > and click on the last two links.
> >
> > Apurva
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pictures

Date: 17 Jun 1999 02:47:25 -0500


Great Pix Apurva !!! I always enjoyed my trip between PA and Mumbai, i
have
done that 4 times till now. How did u manage to take snaps from such a
far
off angle atop the catch sidings ?? Ho wdid you get to those places in
the
first instance.

regds,
anand


>From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
>To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
>Subject: Bhore ghat pictures
>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:09:20 +0530
>
>Gang !
>
>Please check out some pictures of Bhore ghat on the Mumbai - Pune line
on
>my site. Let
>me know pronto if a link does not work.
>Go to:
><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
>and click on the last two links.
>
>Apurva
>
>


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From: Steven Sliwka <>

Subject: WDM2 Question

Date: 17 Jun 1999 04:58:25 -0500


Members
 
Funny Apurva that you should mention models.  I'm in the process of making a WDM2, but I have a question that hopefully someone can answer.  Does the radiator grille at the end of the long hood angle with the hood?  Or does it sit flat?  If anyone can help by providing pictures it would be helpful.  That's the problem when you live in the US, you never get to see one of these beasts in real life.  It sounds like taking pictures in India is a hassle too.  At least it isn't as easy as in the states.   
 
I didn't know that there's a market for these models.  As you indicated on your website, they had sold them to various organizations.  Mine is to 1/87 scale, or 3.5mm= 1 foot.  In other words, it'll be 8.11 inches, or 2059mm long.
 

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: KR Trip!

Date: 17 Jun 1999 07:56:51 -0500


Hey!! thats a good idea. Must we also ask our Overseas friends . If
some of
them visit India during the same time then it would be fine. Otherwise
we
shall make one more trip wih them later. In any case its o.k with me


>From: "SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI " <smg@godrej.email
>To: "VIRAF P.. MULLA " <sncf@godrej.email
>CC: Karthik Giddu <gidduk@vsnl.email Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email

>irfca@cs.email
>Subject: KR Trip!
>Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:26:14 +0530 (IST)
>
>Hi!,
>
>Apurva, Viraf , Karthik & many others likely to join in.....
>
>On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, VIRAF P.. MULLA wrote:
>
> > > It will be great idea if we(irfca members in india) can plan
> > > such a trip to Konkan Railway.
>
> > Great idea Karthik. Lets do it after the monsoons.
> > Viraf
>
>Yes, I too am on for this trip!
>
>Shrinivas
>


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From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 17 Jun 1999 08:33:31 -0500


From my recent experience, I was able to take photographs without being
hassled at Howrah, New Delhi, and Asansol stations.

I actually had a permit for Howrah, which I obtained from the Senior PRO
in
Calcutta, but no one came to ask for it when I took pictures. I was
actually
walking around with a camera plainly visible in hand, but no one seemed
to
care.

In New Delhi, I had to be a lot more cautious. There's actually a great
place at New Delhi station to get good pictures inconspicuously -
sitting in
the covered area under or near the overbridge (on Platform 8? Whichever
one
the Poorva Exp. departs from). There's no one out there between trains
(the
platform nearby is empty), and you get a great view of the electric shed
and
all the shunting activity (if you want a photo of the WDS4
"Indraprastha",
CLW's first diesel, in action, this is the place to be). Compare this
with
the crowd on Platform 1 or 2.

At Asansol station, no one approached me at all. Even the "khakis" were
preoccupied with removing panhandlers and street kids sitting on the
platform. I did have to be fairly discrete in how I was holding my
camera.

At smaller wayside stations, I had no problems at all, except for when
somebody in Bihar started chasing after my (moving) train, because I had
been shooting (and hence flirting with) some female workers at the
station!
:-) (Having read the recent posting, I think maybe it's a good thing he
didn't catch me!) I was also able to take a large number of shots from
the
door of the moving train, and most of the officials let me (with some
talking) stand with the door open, even of A/C coaches, to take shots
freely.

Overall, I do agree with Harsh's assessment - not overdoing it gets you
a
long way. And a compact zoom camera (I used the Pentax 160) with 800
speed
film couldn't hurt.

But don't ask me how I got those shots at Asansol shed.... ;-)

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: A Handful of snaps !!

Date: 17 Jun 1999 08:34:22 -0500



Nice pix, Anand.

Some notes:
- The first WAP4, 22264 was interesting. I've seen 22265 at Howrah
(based at
ASN, I believe), and it's always interesting to see how far apart
consecutively numbered locos can end up.
- The A/C loco shot is tough to see. If it's possible, could you please
scan
the picture at, say, 300 dpi, crop it to the area with the locos, and
publish that without shrinking it?
- Is the Saptagiri Exp. loco a WAM4?

-----Original Message-----
From: Anand Krishnan [mailto:krish_nand@hotmail.email
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:39 AM
To: iti@vsnl.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email
Subject: A Handful of snaps !!


Hi all,
Just managed to put up a few of my snaps that i took during my
recent

trip to Chennai. Comments/criticisms are welcome. The 16 commandments
for
taking snaps that was put up in the list a couple of days back was
followed
to a great extent. You could see it for urself at
<A HREF="http://members.xoom.com/railweb/index.htm">http://members.xoom.com/railweb/index.htm</A>

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Models of Indian Railways

Date: 17 Jun 1999 09:34:22 -0500


Gang !

Check out some models made in Pune of Indian Railway locos.
Go to: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
and click on the models link right at the end.

Apurva

From: Nitin Joshi <>

Subject: Models of Indian Railways

Date: 17 Jun 1999 13:42:53 -0500


Apurva

Visited the site for pictures of the model, but there seems to be a
problem.
Only the picture
place holders appeared without the thumbnail images. I am not sure
whether
this is a problem
with my Internet connection?

I thoroughly enjoyed the Bhore Ghat pictures.

Bye

Nitin Joshi
----- Original Message -----
From: Apurva Bahadur
To: IRFCA
Sent: 17.June.99 12:34
Subject: Models of Indian Railways


Gang !

Check out some models made in Pune of Indian Railway locos.
Go to: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
and click on the models link right at the end.

Apurva

From: Vdate <>

Subject: Re: KR Trip!

Date: 17 Jun 1999 16:49:05 -0500


I would be very interested. Late in monsoon, when the rains have not
yet
stopped completely may even be more photogenic with waterfalls still
flowing.

From: S Pai <>

Subject: pilferage [Re: Trainhopping/Film]

Date: 17 Jun 1999 18:30:54 -0500


> The problem of pilferage of freight is quite serious on the IR.

An understatement, if anything. I have talked to folks from areas
around Dhanbad and other areas where there are coal or other mines, and
they say it is quite common for a freight train carrying coal or ores to
be stopped a few miles out of the mining towns, where organized gangs
of workers use shovels to empty out a good fraction of the cargo, which
may be sold directly for a profit, or returned to the mines for
re-loading to cook the production figures for the mines (while IR takes
the blame for the loss en route). (The drivers of the freight trains
have no choice in the matter, by the way...)

--Satish

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