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From: Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath <>

Subject: Ooty timetable.

Date: 17 Feb 1999 15:55:14 -0500


Dear all,
     Does ANYONE know what the current timetable for the Ooty line is. I may be there is April, and I need to confirm whether there is indeed an additional daily trin on the rack section. Also, there used to be a Sunday special Coonoor-Ooty-Coonoor, with steam. Does this still run?
     This info is not on any website so far as I can tell.
      Thanks in advance for any help

From: Auroprem Kandaswami <>

Subject: Railway Budget 1999-2000 ?

Date: 18 Feb 1999 12:53:29 -0500



Hi folks,

Does anyone know when the Rly Budget is going to be
presented in Parliament for the coming financial year?

Any "insider" information about "Special" trains/packages
for states of key allies of the government (coalition) such
as Bihar, TN, WB and others...

Regards,
Auro

From: Sankaran Kumar <>

Subject: Re: Ooty timetable.

Date: 18 Feb 1999 16:58:16 -0500


Hello Dr. Walker:

As per the SR TT of August 15, 1998 here are the train timings on the
Mettupalaiyam-Udhagamandalam (Ooty) line:
All trains run daily
Train No. 562 Lv M'palaiyam 0730 Arr Ooty 1200
Train No. 564 Lv " 1315 Arr " 1745

with stops at all stations (Hillgrove, Coonoor, Wellington, Aravankadu,
Ketti, Lovedale).


Train No. 567 Lv Ooty 0915 Arr M'palaiyam 1245
Train No. 561 Lv Ooty 1500 Arr " 1835

There are two trains in each direction that run from Coonoor to Ooty.

Train No. 566/570 Lv Coonoor 0745/1335 Arr Ooty 0905/1450
Train No. 569/565 Lv Ooty 1215/1800 Arr Coonoor 1320/1910

with stops at all stations.

Regards
Kumar



>Dear all,
> Does ANYONE know what the current timetable for the Ooty line is.
I =
>may be there is April, and I need to confirm whether there is indeed an

=
>additional daily trin on the rack section. Also, there used to be a =
>Sunday special Coonoor-Ooty-Coonoor, with steam. Does this still run?
> This info is not on any website so far as I can tell.
> Thanks in advance for any help
> Ken Walker
>


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From: Mike Brooker <>

Subject: Railfan content on my India web page

Date: 18 Feb 1999 20:08:01 -0500


I have just uploaded a page of photos, etc. of my visit to India in December 1995. (Sorry it's taken me more than 3 years to do it! :-) The URL is <<A HREF="http://webhome.idirect.com/~aum108/bharat.html>">http://webhome.idirect.com/~aum108/bharat.html></A>
 
Of interest to rail fans: photos that I took of Bombay VT, and the BBCIR narrow-guage steam loco outside Bombay Central.  I've also included a photo of a mammoth head of Lord Shiva that I found near the Haridwar station - perhaps on the grounds of the station, or very close to it.  It was really cool to see this giant head of Shiva when I arrived in Haridwar!
 
I've also included some India travel links, including links to the official and unofficial Indian Railways sites.
 
Bharat Mata Ki Jai!!
 
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Mike Brooker
99 Wychcrest Ave.,
Toronto, ON  M6G 3X8
CANADA
(416) 536-7406

From: Dheeraj Sanghi <>

Subject: Re: Railway Budget 1999-2000 ?

Date: 18 Feb 1999 22:55:31 -0500



Railway Budget will be presented on 25th Feb.
Some sops to Bihar, WB, AP, Goa are expected.
(All states where elections are going to
be held before next Rail budget, and those
states where their allies are very demanding.)

According to a newspaper report yesterday, Cabinet has
agreed to consider Railways as infrastructure. So they
will be able to raise loans at much less interest
rates from the market, reducing their interest
burden. This will obviate the need to increase
the second class fare substantially this year.

-dheeraj
--------------
Dr. Dheeraj Sanghi (0512) 59-7077/7638
(Off)
Dept. of Computer Science & Engineering (0512) 59-8627 (Res)
Indian Institute of Technology (0512) 59-0725/0413
(Fax)
Kanpur - 208 016 (UP), INDIA. dheeraj@iitk.email
Home Page: <A HREF="http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj">http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj</A>

From: Dheeraj Sanghi <>

Subject: First Shatabdi Express in AP flagged off

Date: 19 Feb 1999 01:16:48 -0500


From Indian Express website:

First Satabdhi Express in AP flagged off

RAJAHMUNDRY: The first Satabdhi Express in Andhra Pradesh,
running between Rajahmundry and Secunderabad, was flagged off
by Union railway minister Nitish Kumar here today. Speaking
on the occasion, Kumar said the Express, 15th in the country
connecting inter-cities, would have an additional halt at Eluru,
the headquarters of west Godavari district, besides Vijayawada.

The minister said sufficient allocations would be made in the
next budget to take up developmental activities in various states.
The Century old first railway bridge on river Godavari would be
handed over to the state for keeping it as a monument, he added.
Lok Sabha speaker G.M.C. Balayogi requested the minister
to take up the Kakinada-Kotipalli rail track construction.

From: Dheeraj Sanghi <>

Subject: Nitish inaugurates double rail line

Date: 19 Feb 1999 01:37:30 -0500


Hindustan Times:
_______________

Minister for Railways Nitish Kumar inaugurated the
newly-constructed Ghaziabad-Mehrauli double rail line
on the Ghaziabad-Moradabd section of Northern Railway.

Senior Railway officials were present on the occasion.

This double line is a part of the Ghaziabd-Hapur
doubling project which falls under the NCR of Delhi. The
Northern Railway authorities said that this line required
the construction of one major and ten minor bridges.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: My Wankaner website

Date: 19 Feb 1999 10:49:54 -0500


Gang !

Check out my Wankaner tour picture and report. It is a large site (over
100 pictures
!) so please have the patience to go through it all. Let me know ASAP is
a link does
not work
Go to:

<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm</A>

and click on the Wankaner link right at the bottom.

Apurva

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: First Shatabdi Express in AP flagged off

Date: 19 Feb 1999 11:42:04 -0500


>>First Satabdhi Express in AP flagged off
>>
>>RAJAHMUNDRY: The first Satabdhi Express in Andhra Pradesh,
>>running between Rajahmundry and Secunderabad, was flagged off
>>by Union railway minister Nitish Kumar here today. Speaking
>>on the occasion, Kumar said the Express, 15th in the country
>>connecting inter-cities, would have an additional halt at Eluru,
>>the headquarters of west Godavari district, besides Vijayawada.
>
>My prediction came true - three halts at Guntur, Vijayawada and Eluru.
>
>
>Vijay

From: Auroprem Kandaswami <>

Subject: First long-distance train flagged off from Tiruchi

Date: 19 Feb 1999 15:20:54 -0500





The Tiruchi-Howrah Express, the first
long-distance train after the gauge conversion,
was flagged off from Tiruchi junction on Friday
afternoon. The train was flagged off
by a group of seven senior workers, headed by
Mr. M. Jagannathan of the railway
operations department. The tri-weekly express
will cover the distance of 2,004 km in
38 hours, and the fare will be Rs. 384 for the
II class sleeper berth and Rs.256 for
seat. The train will leave Tiruchi on Tuesdays,
Fridays and Sundays, and the
Howrah-Tiruchi Express on Tuesdays, Thursdays
and Sundays.

From: Sankaran Kumar <>

Subject: Re: Chennai Madurai BG Timetable wanted.

Date: 19 Feb 1999 18:10:03 -0500


Dear Karthik:

Here are timings of trains between Madurai and Chennai as per the Aug 98

SR TT. I don't know if Tiruchi-Dindigul is open to traffic yet.

Madurai-Chennai Egmore

2636 Vaigai Exp Dep 0520 Arr 1500
6718 Pandiyan Exp Dep 1935 Arr 0650
6104 Tuticorin-Chennai Pearl City Exp Dep 2055 Arr 0830
6120 Tirunelveli-Chennai Nellai Exp Dep 2200 Arr 0915

Chennai Egmore-Madurai

2635 Vaigai Exp Dep 1230 Arr 2230
6717 Pandiyan Exp Dep 1930 Arr 0650
6103 Pearl City Exp Dep 1800 Arr 0515
6119 Nellai Exp Dep 1715 Arr 0430


Kumar




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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Diesel Engine sound files

Date: 21 Feb 1999 01:34:05 -0500


Gang !

Check out Mark Bristow's (<mark@caradoc.email site on diesel
engine sounds. No
bells, horns or other regular 'loco sounds' stuff, only rugged poundings
from hard
working piston and the snarl from the spinning turbo. Out of these the
file
(cp1966perneg.mp3) is almost a WDM 2 working flat out. That is not
surprising as the
loco in question is a Bombardier MXS627 with an Alco 251 - 16 prime
mover.

Go to : <A HREF="http://www.flamingstack.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm">http://www.flamingstack.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm</A>

And enjoy yourself !

The sound files run continuously in a loop on my machine and that puts
me in a great
mood.

Apurva

From: Bharat Vohra <>

Subject: Mhow Travelogue...

Date: 21 Feb 1999 10:20:53 -0500


Hi All!
Siddharth and I have finally put up our long overdue travelogue on Mhow.

Please have a look by cliking on the link on-
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~railinindia/mhow.html">http://members.tripod.com/~railinindia/mhow.html</A>
It is about a year old.....Jan 1998 trip but its here alright!
Thanks and regards,
Bharat Vohra

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From: Bharat Vohra <>

Subject: WDS4 in LKU

Date: 21 Feb 1999 10:43:27 -0500


Hi Gang!
Just visited Buriton Wheelbarrows IR Diesel pics.....one of them has an
interesting caption....it says WDS4 at Lucknow Junction.
If any of you have seen it you will realise....it is a WR WDS4 Number
19454!!! I have myself seen this loco in the Bombay area and the colour
scheme is that of Bandra Shed, WR!
I do not know if the picture or caption is a misprint or not..but I
would be very suprised to find a WR WDS4 in LKU of all places!
Most WDS4's of any railway do not venture out of home territory unlike
their manline counterparts (WDM2's etc)....besides the only trip they
could make is to the workshops for a POH. WR WDS4's visit Parel Shops of

CR for that purpose. In any case the only two workshops there in
Lucknow..Alambagh and Charbagh are for C&W POH to the best of my
knowledge.
Anyone with an explantion for that?
Regards,
Bharat Vohra

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From: Roger G. Morris <>

Subject: Re: WDS4 in LKU

Date: 21 Feb 1999 14:49:23 -0500


In article <19990221184327.9090.qmail@hotmail.email Bharat Vohra
<bvohra@hotmail.email writes
>Hi Gang!
>Just visited Buriton Wheelbarrows IR Diesel pics.....one of them has an

>interesting caption....it says WDS4 at Lucknow Junction.
>If any of you have seen it you will realise....it is a WR WDS4 Number
>19454!!! I have myself seen this loco in the Bombay area and the colour

>scheme is that of Bandra Shed, WR!
>I do not know if the picture or caption is a misprint or not..but I
>would be very suprised to find a WR WDS4 in LKU of all places!
>Most WDS4's of any railway do not venture out of home territory unlike
>their manline counterparts (WDM2's etc)....besides the only trip they
>could make is to the workshops for a POH. WR WDS4's visit Parel Shops
of
>CR for that purpose. In any case the only two workshops there in
>Lucknow..Alambagh and Charbagh are for C&W POH to the best of my
>knowledge.
>Anyone with an explantion for that?

Can't offer any explanation - I only took the photo! Can only confirm
the location as Lucknow and the date as 20 February 1992. There was a BG
workshops behind the station at the time of my visit although it didn't
appear to be a hive of activity. Two locomotives were visible (withdrawn
WP 7594 and, presumably in service, WDM4 18012) but the place looked
shut.

Charbagh was (I think) the MG loco shed. I think it might have had a C&W
section nearby but I'm afraid I didn't pay much attention - too many YP
and YG locos to distract me!
--
Roger G. Morris

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From: Sridhar Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Wankaner

Date: 21 Feb 1999 20:32:32 -0500


Apurva,

Great pictures. How much longer is steam likely to survive here?
Reminded me of my last YG hauled trip - from Allahabad to Varanasi by
Puruvanchal Express (I think) way back in the mid 80's.

-Sridhar

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GSB MBA '99 Chicago, IL 60615
University of Chicago (773) 752 1131
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WDS4 in LKO

Date: 22 Feb 1999 02:22:22 -0500




Pune has lots of WDM2 from Itarsi, similarly Guntakal has many locos
from
Gooty. The paint job is original only the shed code has been hastily
overwritten with the new shed code. Such transfers of surplus locos
routinely
happen.
I did notice the distinctive 'two arrowheads' of the BAMY shed on these
WDS
4s but was not familiar with the number 19454. I have seen similar BAMY
liveried WDM 4 at Wankaner (homing to Vatwa) and at Gandhidham (homing
to
Gandhidham), so it is not such a unique livery. However these transfers
are
within the same railway zone.
Maybe the LKO gang got inspired from the 'going nowhere' BAMY livery.
Maybe
Roger could take a magnifying glass and read the name of the train on
the
other platform from the original print, so can get some further clues
about
the location. The second coach says NE railways, does any NE rake come
to MCT
or BNDT ? I cannot think of any, but then all types of rakes go all the
places. Please note that the station does not appear to be electrified.

Apurva

Roger G. Morris wrote:

> In article <19990221184327.9090.qmail@hotmail.email Bharat Vohra
> <bvohra@hotmail.email writes
> >Hi Gang!
> >Just visited Buriton Wheelbarrows IR Diesel pics.....one of them has
an
> >interesting caption....it says WDS4 at Lucknow Junction.
> >If any of you have seen it you will realise....it is a WR WDS4 Number
> >19454!!! I have myself seen this loco in the Bombay area and the
colour
> >scheme is that of Bandra Shed, WR!
> >I do not know if the picture or caption is a misprint or not..but I
> >would be very suprised to find a WR WDS4 in LKU of all places!
> >Most WDS4's of any railway do not venture out of home territory
unlike
> >their manline counterparts (WDM2's etc)....besides the only trip they
> >could make is to the workshops for a POH. WR WDS4's visit Parel Shops
of
> >CR for that purpose. In any case the only two workshops there in
> >Lucknow..Alambagh and Charbagh are for C&W POH to the best of my
> >knowledge.
> >Anyone with an explantion for that?
>
> Can't offer any explanation - I only took the photo! Can only confirm
> the location as Lucknow and the date as 20 February 1992. There was a
BG
> workshops behind the station at the time of my visit although it
didn't
> appear to be a hive of activity. Two locomotives were visible
(withdrawn
> WP 7594 and, presumably in service, WDM4 18012) but the place looked
> shut.
>
> Charbagh was (I think) the MG loco shed. I think it might have had a
C&W
> section nearby but I'm afraid I didn't pay much attention - too many
YP
> and YG locos to distract me!
> --
> Roger G. Morris
>
> Rail images and more at <A HREF="http://www.buriton.demon.co.uk/">http://www.buriton.demon.co.uk/</A>
> The home of the Buriton Wheelbarrow

From: Bharat Vohra <>

Subject: Re: WDS4 in LKO

Date: 22 Feb 1999 08:37:02 -0500


Hi Apurva and Roger!
Thanks for the confirmation on the photo Roger but I am still confused
as to how a WR WDS4 reached LKO of all places??
Apurva....I to noticed the NER rake on the platform and BTW a NE train
and rake does come into BDTS every day...the BDTS-GKP Avadh Exp!
Arrives in the morning and leaves BDTS in the night.
Could it be that....but then u also pointed out that the section was non

electrified!
any one with any other inputs?
Bharat

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From: Roger G. Morris <>

Subject: Re: WDS4 in LKO

Date: 22 Feb 1999 12:59:17 -0500


In article <36D12FDE.B51FB689@vsnl.email Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
writes
>
>
<snip>
>Maybe the LKO gang got inspired from the 'going nowhere' BAMY livery.
Maybe
>Roger could take a magnifying glass and read the name of the train on
the
>other platform from the original print, so can get some further clues
about
>the location. The second coach says NE railways, does any NE rake come
to MCT
>or BNDT ? I cannot think of any, but then all types of rakes go all the
>places. Please note that the station does not appear to be electrified.
>
I've had a look at the original slide with a x8 loupe and, of course,
the train name is in Hindi, which I don't read! However, I can make out
the train number which is 5205 Up / 5206 Dn.

My "Bradshaw" for February 1992 describes this as a 7.45 departure from
Kanpur to Barauni. I note that many through coaches are conveyed as well
(for instance, from Amritsar).

I am confused by the description of the livery as "belonging" to a
(more) southerly depot - I could have sworn that I saw this livery at
several places including Delhi and Bombay (Mumbai). I'll have to have a
look through the slides again. I'm giving an illustrated lecture on the
subject shortly so I'll have to review my programme since the last time
(perhaps I could get sponsorship from the Indian Tourist Board -
although as much of the programme is of steam, I doubt it!).

It is good to cause such controversy (big grin) - I just liked the
photo!
--
Roger G. Morris

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From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: Snail speed?

Date: 24 Feb 1999 22:10:30 -0500



Hi!

Why no traffic or some at very slow speed on our huge network of
railfans
these days? Or all the prominent drivers are busy with achieving year
end
targets,annual exams approaching?

Must be some such reason, anybody to throw light in this matter?

Bye,

Shrinivas

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