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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: New Website

Date: 16 Aug 1998 10:45:39 -0500


Hi Gang !

Check out my new website of visit to Daund. It is indexed and
thumbnailed. Please give me feedback.


The URL is : <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/Daund/visit_to_daund.htm">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/Daund/visit_to_daund.htm</A>

Apurva Bahadur

From: Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath <>

Subject: Re: Afghanistan et Iran

Date: 16 Aug 1998 17:17:31 -0500


Hi Satish,
Yes, you're right about the great game, but nonetheless there were
several proposals to extend what was then the NWR into Aghanistan, and
had
British control over the territory been stronger, they might well have
matured. Building lines right up to the frontier certainly implies a
desire,
even willingness, to extend! Chaman to Kandahar would have been
relatively
easy; Landi Khana to Kabul markedly more difficult. Interesting about
the
2km at Kabul: obviously plans existed for a line to the USSR border.
I should have made it clear that the services to Zahedan are
operated by
Pak Railways throughout; only station manning and operation are by
Iranians,
though presumably to the Pak(=IR) rule book!
There's more info in P.S.A. Berridge's book Couplings to the Khyber
(Newton Abbott: David & Charles, 1969, ISBN 7153 4342 4), which is a
well-written, predominantly civil engineering history of the N.W.R.;
Hugh
Hughes' book Middle Eastern Railways (London: Continental Railway
Circle,
1981, ISBN 0 9503469 7 7) has a short but very informative account of
Iranian railways, under its various names. His WWII story of the U.S.
diseasels on the northern line, that stalled on a grade, and with the
exhausted crew fast asleep, proceeded to BURN their way down through the
rails, makes fascinating reading!
Cook's International Timetable (there's also a Continental, for Europe)
is
well worth the occasional look: it is as up to date as they can make it,
and
has details of connecting bus and boat services too.
Cheers from
InfoKJ

-----Original Message-----
From: S Pai <spai@aya.email
To: Indian Railways List <irfca@cs.email
Date: Monday, 17 August 1998 3:22
Subject: Re: Afghanistan et Iran


>There is also some remaining infrastructure for about 2km of rail line
near
>Kabul (I don't know if it was ever actually functional), I believe --
read
>about it a while back -- but given its size Afghanistan must really
count
>as the country with the least railroad penetration.
>
> It was the focus of the "Great Game"
>between Russia and Great Britain, and the British did not want any
links
>whatsoever in Afghanistan which might make it easier for the Russians
to
>menace British India -- it would have been idiocy in strategic terms.
>
>I believe the line into Iran until Zahidan is operated by Pakistan
>Railways and the trains have Pakistani rolling stock and locos.
>
>-Satish
>
>

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Railways to the west contest

Date: 16 Aug 1998 18:32:44 -0500


S Pai wrote:

> Whether you would want to take trains through any of the Central Asian
republics
> today is a different question altogether. :-(
>

Not on a US passport, not as a woman, not being ghori.
I've a friend, an Indian man, who did it by bus.

> I wonder how long it would take to do a trip like this.
>
Timetable readers, that sounds like a challenge! I'm hereby announcing:
THE GREAT RAILWAYS TO THE WEST CONTEST

A contest of skill and wit, (not to mention excess idle time), to find
the fastest time by rail, Great Britain to India:

Rules:
Starting date/time can be any time in the 30 day period from midnight
Sept 1 to Midnight Sept 30,1998.

All travel must be by rail on passenger accomodations, listed on a
timetable or other public schedule. Entries must contain the information
sources for all segments.

You may assume all trains run on time (that's quite generous!)

Intra-city transfers between stations by other modes of transportation
may be used, provided:
a) at least 3 hours elapse between arrival in the city and departure.
b) Not more than 25 miles between stations.

At least 10 minutes must be allowed for meets.

Travel must start in Great Britain and end in the ROI. (We refuse to
adjudicate where India's eastern border is!).

Entries must be received at netmagic.net prior to Midnight PDT August
31,98.

Form of entries:
Entries must be an email to anniepoo@netmagic.email bearing the subject
line
"IRFCA Railways to the west contest entry", and should contain an
itinerary
formatted like this sample:

Depart: Swinburne West
Departure time: 13:13
Departure date: Sept 14
Arrive: London
Arrival time: 16:10
Arrival date: Sept 14
Railroad: British Rail
Train: 714
Source: Bradshaw, 98
---

Scoring:
10 points per mile geodesic ("as the crow flies") distance between start
and destination.
less 1 point per minute taken to travel between.

the Prizes:
Free space on my upcoming web server for the highest score.
Free space on my upcoming web server for the most interesting route, in
my
own opinion.

How to enter:
Send an email to anniepoo@netmagic.email (NOT to the irfca list!) prior
to Midnight PDT August 31st. with your itinerary.

Notes:
The scoring is deliberately set to encourage first finding a
maximum-distance solution, then finding a fastest route between them.

The geodesic distance will be computed wrt a spherical earth.


Good Luck!

Annie

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re:Fw: where to get rail videos and timetables?

Date: 16 Aug 1998 19:06:48 -0500


On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Vijay Balasubramanian wrote:

> Thanks for providing this list, Viraf.
>
> >4. RAIL FILMS:
> > Indian steam sunset volumes 1,2 & 3.
> > Indus Express (Pakistan).
>
> Is this pretty much about steam locos. or does it cover other aspects
of
> IR and show other locos., trains, stations, etc.?
>
I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE. THEY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED BY MY FRIEND IN LONDON
AND
WILL BE HERE WHEN HE VISITS ME IN DECEMBER. BUT WHAT I CAME TO KNOW FROM
HIM IS THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LAST STEAM HAULED TRAINS MOSTLY M.G. IN
INDIA.

> >6. Ray Freeman:
> > India volumes 1,2 & 3. Volume 1-North, Western & Central
> >Railways.
> > Volume 2-South Eastern, South Central &
> > Southern Railways.
>
> I am intrigued by this one and may want to purchase it. What does it
> cover? Does it have good shots of diesel/elec. locos., trains,
> stations, etc?

NO THESE ARE ENTIRELY STEAM ONES. THE ACTION IS DURING THE EARLY 90'S
WHEN THERE WAS STILL PLENTY TO STEAM LEFT ON ALL THE GAUGES. lOVELY
SHOTS
OF WP AND WG CLASSES.
> >GOOD NEWS.
> >----------
> >Switch on the N.Geog channel today at 7.30pm for The Great Indian
> >Railways. And B.B.C. on Sunday the 16th. at 5.30pm for the new
> >episodes of The Great Railway Journeys.
>
> Are there any other episodes on India besides the one by Brian
Thompson?

YES I THINK THERE IS BUT I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME. HE'S A BRITISH
COMEDIAN AND DID DOCUMENTARIES LIKE "AROUND THE WORLD" AND "POLE TO
POLE".

I FORGOT TO MENTION IN MY PREVIOUS LIST A GERMAN VIDEO "DAMPF EN
INDIAN"
I MIGHT HAVE GOT THE GERMAN TITLE ALL MIXED UP, BUT THE VIDEO IS DUBED
IN
ENGLISH AND IS PRETTY GOOD.
==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: Railways to the west

Date: 16 Aug 1998 20:06:58 -0500



I believe that the Taurus Express from Istanbul had carriages for
Baghdad.
I presume that it won't be there now.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: European Railway Museums.

Date: 16 Aug 1998 20:28:06 -0500


>
> By the way, I just got back from a trip to Europe, and wanted to
mention
> the Science & Transport Museum in Lucerne as well as the Transport
Museum
> in Berlin -- both have fine exhibits of well-preserved locomotives and
> carriages (and other railway miscellanea) from early this century and
even
> some from as early as 1870! (Not running ones, though.) Well worth
the
> detours for any rail-fan travelling anywhere in those parts.
>
> -Satish

More Railway Museums.

Mulhouse in France.
Munich & Nurnberg in Germany.
Utrecht in Netherland.
Odense in Denmark.
Lillehammer in Norway.
Milan in Italy.
York in Britain.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Running trains by proxy

Date: 17 Aug 1998 02:10:37 -0500


Hi Gang !

With reference to Dr. K's post:
>From 1967, the Persians (Iranians) were responsible for track
maintenance and station
>manning on the last 50 miles, from Mirjawa to Zahidan.

Well Indians have run foreign railways too and not of their immediate
neighbors !

In the 1970s, batches of IR drivers, engineers and staff manned the
some lines in Uganda. The specific line and indeed the entire system was
in shambles. The IR guys implemented only the standard operational,
maintenance and commercial procedures to soon turn the railways into a
profit making venture. I know a driver from Daund who drove Garratts
in Uganda. He claims that that driving these locos was not much of work
as compared to the WPs and WGs he used to work in India. I guess the
mechanical stroker had much to do with the ease of driving. Our man
claims that the pilferage and the bad account keeping practices drove
the UR to such a sad shape. Once the IR took over, they controlled these
factors and replaced even the ticket checkers and sellers with Indians.

Apurva Bahadur

From: Prakash Tendulkar <>

Subject:

Date: 17 Aug 1998 10:55:20 -0500


> Well Indians have run foreign railways too and not of their
> immediate neighbors !

Well, Uganda was not alone. IR folks managed Zambian Railways
too. ZR had their entire Diesel-Electric fleet run by IR drivers.

Prakash

From: Peter Mosse <>

Subject: MG and NG in Pakistan

Date: 18 Aug 1998 09:54:46 -0500


Ken Walker wrote:

> Pak Railways: extensive MG system in Sind, originally connecting
with
> the (now) W.R. lines in Rajasthan. Mostly BESA 4-6-0s in days of
steam,
now
> (one assumes) diseasels.

-----

No, the mg system remains 100% steam with a once-a-week service between
Mirpur Khas and Nawabshah, a daily service between MK and Khokhropar and
a
once-a-week service between MK and Pithoro via Jhudo.

This is not a safe area to visit and when I went there last January in a
tour group from UK we had a sizeable contingent of railway police
travelling with us, as well as other police on alert along our route.
We
also had a road police escort as we travelled from Hyderabad to Mirpur
Khas
by bus and again on our way out of the region from Khadro on the
Nawabshah
line. The reason we had to leave the train at Khadro rather than
completing the trip to Nawabshah was so that we could get into 'safe'
territory before dark.

Not something to tell the loved ones back home until afterwards - if at
all
!!

-------

> Three surviving NG lines, all 2ft 6in gauge
> (762mm): Kohat-Thal, to Bannu & Tank (2 separate branches), and the
very
> long line from Bostan, near Quetta, to Fort Sandeman in the upper Zhob
> valley.

Until a few months ago, one could say that none of the ng lines was in
operation, but the line from Bostan is supposedly being put back into
service. [ Apparently the current railways minister is from Baluchistan
so
this is a political - not an economic - decision. ]

Peter Mosse

From: Auroprem Kandaswami <>

Subject: By Shatabdi to the Golden Temple

Date: 18 Aug 1998 11:29:47 -0500




Northern Railways innaugurated the Swarna Shatabdi Express from
New Delhi to Amritsar on August 15.

Train No 2029 will depart from New Delhi at 0630 hours and
arrive in Ludhiana at 1012 hours, Jalandhar City at 1056
hours and in Amritsar at 1155 hours, daily except Sunday.

Train No 2030 will depart from Amritsar at 0510 hours and
arrive in Jalandhar City at 0609 hours, Ludhiana at 0654
hours and in New Delhi at 1040 hours, daily except Sunday.

Some special features of this train: fax, email and telephone
facilities on board, higher speed, free magazines and newspapers,
vending machines supplying unlimited hot and cold beverages,
individual lighting, special platform at New Delhi, access to a
railway station lounge, Tatkal facility, Wimpy's fast food counter
at the station and the facility of renting a car at the New Delhi
station.

From: Pushkar Apte <>

Subject: Max speed on KR?

Date: 18 Aug 1998 13:48:52 -0500


What is the maximum line speed currently allowed on Konkan Rail?
Looking at the timings of the fastest train, the Trivandrum Rajdhani, I
am guessing it is 100 kmph or perhaps even less. Can somebody please
confirm and post? Thanks!

Also is there any road-map for moving the line to higher speeds in the
near future? I remember reading claims when KR was under construction
that it would be capable of 160 kmph. So far this has turned out to be
an idle boast. If the speed is not improved, we will never see a
Mumbai-Goa Shatabdi, because right now it takes too long for a rake to
make a Mumbai-Goa roundtrip within a day!

Regards,
Pushkar
-------

From: Prakash Tendulkar <>

Subject: Max speed on KR?

Date: 18 Aug 1998 15:04:27 -0500


Pushkar,

Looking at timetable on Rediff. New Delhi - Trivendram Rajdhani
takes 8 hrs and 55 min to cover Vasai Road to Margao - Goa and
exact 9 hrs the other way. My best guess would be 80 km/h max
and 55 km/h average speed. I'll wait for someone from India to
furnish particulars.

In old days, initial traffic used to be limited to freight to
allow tracks to settle. (usually a couple of years). Not sure
if that is a valid statement today. However, looking at bumps
on I-87 in SF Bay area, I am inclined to accept this old wisdom.

During the rainy season this year, the service was closed for
a day or so due to land slides on track.

Prakash

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Time Table.

Date: 18 Aug 1998 19:02:40 -0500



Hi Gang,

Just to let you know that the Western Railway Timetables are out on the
stands.

==========================
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C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: LONGEST STEAM RUN.

Date: 18 Aug 1998 19:35:01 -0500



Good Morning Gang,

This news item was in the July '98 issue of the STEAM RAILWAY. I want to
share it with you.
__________________________________________________________________
WORLD'S LONGEST REGULAR STEAM RUN SET TO BE LAUNCHED IN PAKISTAN.
------------------------------------------------------------------

Pakistan is set to offer the world's longest regular steam-operated
railway journey following a surprise government order to restore an
abandoned 184 mile line using British built locomotives.

The country's new railway minister comes from Baluchistan and has issued
instructions to restore services along the Bostan-Zhob 2ft 6ins gauge
line
in the northern province.

This action in itself would be surprising, but the line which the
railway
minister wishes to see reopened has a mountain pass that takes the
railway
from 1,153ft to a summit of 7,291ft, back down to Zhob at 5,242ft - and
is
steam operated.

Despite considerable opposition within the railway industry, two elderly
North British 2-8-2s are receiving full overhauls at Lahore's Mughalpura
workshops, ready for a resumption of services later this year.

Suggested locomotive power comrises "G" class No.46, which dates from
1911
and "GS" class No.62, built ten years later.

However, there seems an enormous credibility gap to bridge before the
line
can again attract enthusiasts from all over the world. When the last
train
ran is not is not entirely clear, and the services more or less faded
away
during the mid to late 1980s. Indeed , it is nearly 20 years ago since
visitors managed to travel the full 184 miles, because tribal
insurrections as in later years saw the route considered unsafe for
tourist.

Even back then, there was only one train per week, taking upwards of 18
hours for the journey; a unique feature was the availability of 2ft 6ins
gauge sleeping cars! At times, the insurrection made it dangerous to run
at night and the journey would extend to over 24 hours, one way, the
train
stabling at a "safe" station from sunset to sunrise!

Also under restoration at Lahore are "SPS" 4-4-0 No.2976 and "SGS" 0-6-0
No.2471, before they return to Malakwal to work tourist trains.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----

We too in India have N.G. Sleeper Cars on the Barsi Light Railway.


==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: poras p.saklatwalla <>

Subject: Re: By Shatabdi to the Golden Temple

Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:43:44 -0500


On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Auroprem Kandaswami wrote:

>
>
> Northern Railways innaugurated the Swarna Shatabdi Express from
> New Delhi to Amritsar on August 15.
>
> Train No 2029 will depart from New Delhi at 0630 hours and
> arrive in Ludhiana at 1012 hours, Jalandhar City at 1056
> hours and in Amritsar at 1155 hours, daily except Sunday.
>
> Train No 2030 will depart from Amritsar at 0510 hours and
> arrive in Jalandhar City at 0609 hours, Ludhiana at 0654
> hours and in New Delhi at 1040 hours, daily except Sunday.
>
> Some special features of this train: fax, email and telephone
> facilities on board, higher speed, free magazines and newspapers,
> vending machines supplying unlimited hot and cold beverages,
> individual lighting, special platform at New Delhi, access to a
> railway station lounge, Tatkal facility, Wimpy's fast food
counter
> at the station and the facility of renting a car at the New Delhi
> station.
>

PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
TEL :5773535/3636
EXT :4226/4232/4237


Hi Gang,

Please note that 2030up Shatabdi express would be leaving Amritsar at
16.00 hrs to reach NDLS AT 22.45
This is as per the timings given in the New trains at a glance
timetable.
The old shatabdi departs From Amritsar at 5.10 in the morning.

This may sound interesting to you folks. In the latest Trains at A
Glanc
2101 dn Kurla Howrah Super Deluxe Ac express timings are given though
the train will start operating at a later date. This train will start
its
journey at 20.20 hrs from Kurla and will halt at the following stations.

Kalyan, kasara, Igatpuri, Bhusawal, Nagpur, Durg, Raipur, Bilaspur,
Rourkela, Chakradharpur, Tatanagar- at 00.20 and Kharagpur and Howrah at
4.10 am in the morning. The train will be a CR train as the No.2101 DN
suggests, home shed Mumbai. Note the train skips Akola, Badnera,
Gondia,
and Jharshuguda, but takes the same time as the Gitanjali i.e. 32hrs to
Calcutta. The same train will run to Nagpur as 2103 Dn covering the
distance in 12 hrs. The long run between Bhusawal and Nagpur helps in
reducing 2 hrs taken by 2105 Dn Vidharba Exp. All Friends are requested
to send in their comments. Appu You will Have something special ? Can
also somebody find when the train will start its journey. I think it
will
commence during the Puja time. Comments welcome. Also is it possible to
have WAP's running on the Igatpuri- Calcutta section of this route ?

Poras,

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Max speed on KR?

Date: 19 Aug 1998 03:22:23 -0500




Pushkar Apte wrote:

> What is the maximum line speed currently allowed on Konkan Rail?
> Looking at the timings of the fastest train, the Trivandrum Rajdhani,
I
> am guessing it is 100 kmph or perhaps even less. Can somebody please
> confirm and post? Thanks!
>

KR is slow - as all new lines are, the speed is 55 Kmps with 80 Kmph is
sections. The track is built to handle 160 Kmph although I doubt if we
will
ever see speed faster that 105 Kmph and that too only in sections. The
land around Goa is very soft - I was in Goa last year during
commissioning
of the DMU service - there were sections that sank as much as 10 mm
every
time the DMU (which is quite light) passed over them. Gangmen of the KR
always stood at hand to quickly restore the alignment.

> Also is there any road-map for moving the line to higher speeds in the
> near future? I remember reading claims when KR was under construction
> that it would be capable of 160 kmph. So far this has turned out to
be
> an idle boast. If the speed is not improved, we will never see a
> Mumbai-Goa Shatabdi, because right now it takes too long for a rake to
> make a Mumbai-Goa roundtrip within a day!

How about two rakes for the Shatabdis ?

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Protest in Pune

Date: 19 Aug 1998 03:29:52 -0500


Hi Gang !

As per a local paper, the Keralite groups in Pune will jointly hold a
'Rail - Roko' (sit in protest, stopping the train) to vent the grievance
against diversion of four trains via KR. The group will squat in front
of the 1081 Jayanti Janata Exp from Mumbai to Kanya Kumari within the
next two weeks and prevent it leaving Pune. The management has promised
an increased quota on the 1081/ 1082.

Apurva Bahadur

From: Vivek Prakash <>

Subject: Re: LONGEST STEAM RUN.

Date: 19 Aug 1998 05:55:56 -0500


> We too in India have N.G. Sleeper Cars on the Barsi Light Railway.

Hey guys!I was just wondering, what is the pioneering NG express train
in India?
does it have A/C and first class NG cars? What's its max speed and what
type of
loco hauls it?

Vivek.
--
+================----------------*----------------------+
| You can't win / Vivek Prakash |
| till I'm not afraid to lose. / vivekp@ihug.email |
+==========-------------------*-------------------------+

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: LONGEST STEAM RUN.

Date: 19 Aug 1998 06:42:40 -0500




Vivek Prakash wrote:

> > We too in India have N.G. Sleeper Cars on the Barsi Light Railway.
>
> Hey guys!I was just wondering, what is the pioneering NG express train
in India?
> does it have A/C and first class NG cars? What's its max speed and
what type of
> loco hauls it?

The Satpura Express of the South East Railway between Gondia (near
Nagpur) and
Jabalpur has a AC chair car. Sleeper coaches are found all over the 2'6"
system like
Barsi and the Satpura lines. I am not sure of the 2" guage though. I am
sure the
Himalayan Queen and the likes would also have a higher class
accomadation between
Kalka and Simla. They also have a coach to yourself for Rs. 3000 per
day which the
NR attach to the end of a train for a grand view. The loco is a ZDM 4
or 5.

Apurva

>
>
> Vivek.
> --
> +================----------------*----------------------+
> | You can't win / Vivek Prakash |
> | till I'm not afraid to lose. / vivekp@ihug.email |
> +==========-------------------*-------------------------+

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Kurla - Howrah Exp.

Date: 19 Aug 1998 07:13:37 -0500



>
>This may sound interesting to you folks. In the latest Trains at A
Glanc
>2101 dn Kurla Howrah Super Deluxe Ac express timings are given though
>the train will start operating at a later date. This train will start
its
>journey at 20.20 hrs from Kurla and will halt at the following
stations.
>
>Kalyan, kasara, Igatpuri, Bhusawal, Nagpur, Durg, Raipur, Bilaspur,
>Rourkela, Chakradharpur, Tatanagar- at 00.20 and Kharagpur and Howrah
at
>4.10 am in the morning. The train will be a CR train as the No.2101
DN
>suggests, home shed Mumbai. Note the train skips Akola, Badnera,
Gondia,
>and Jharshuguda, but takes the same time as the Gitanjali i.e. 32hrs to
>Calcutta. The same train will run to Nagpur as 2103 Dn covering the
>distance in 12 hrs. The long run between Bhusawal and Nagpur helps in
>reducing 2 hrs taken by 2105 Dn Vidharba Exp. All Friends are
requested
>to send in their comments

The Kurla - Howrah train is a bummer and a con-job :-( It does not
deserve to have super deluxe status with a pathetic 61 kmph. commercial
speed and an overdose of halts. It almost seems to me that IR has a
pre-meditated plan against non-Delhi trains - either slow them down or
make them crawlers right from the start. I was lookng forward to
traveling on this train during my next trip to India and relive the
glory days of the Gitanjali (6 halts with less than 29 hrs. run-time),
but I may change my plans and travel on a real Rajdhani instead of a
fake one.

Poras, I recall you mentioning a while back that the Kurla - Howrah Exp.

would only have 6 halts and a 29 hr. run-time. Is it safe to say IR
provided false information?

The Kurla Nagpur Exp. is the saving grace with only two passenger halts
and a decent 70 kmph. commercial speed. I am assuming that Kasara and
Igatpui are merely techincal halts (if not, then it's a disgrace)

Vijay



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