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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: [Fwd: Thanksss

Date: 24 Oct 1999 21:44:09 -0500


Gang !

Please evaluate whether this guy can distribute the tts and Indian
Railway mag in the
US and UK. May be a spammer !

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WCAM-3 on shunting duties ?

Date: 24 Oct 1999 21:44:15 -0500


This is the typical dilemma of shunting loco motives on the IR. The WDS
4 cannot
easily handle the heavy loads of the train rakes today. Also the issue
of having air
brake capabilities for the WDS 4. Most of the air braked rakes shunted
by the WDS 4
are unbraked and the loco has a hard time accelerating or braking. Pune
station master
does not have a heavier hunter like WDS 6 under is command. So a WCAM 3
is used to
the shunting. Similarly the movement of the incoming Jhelum rake is done
by a standby
WDM 2. I wonder what the future of shunting power is on the IR.
WDS 6 is quite capable, rakes in and out of CSTM are routinely handled
with Kalyan WDS
6. With only 1200 HP on the tap, the Godrej gang and I witnessed a
Gandhidham WDS 6
assemble a rake of over 70 (empty !) NBOX wagons and then move them from
the
Gandhidham yard towards Kandla. This was a most impressive sight. Do you
remember this
, Viraf/ Sarosh/ Shri ?
Are you from Pune Zubin ? If so please send me a mail outside the
IRFCA.

Apurva


Zubin Lee wrote:

> folks,
>
> happened to go to mumbai on sat by 1008 up deccan exp. i was surprised
to
> see the stabled rake being brought to pf #1 by KYN WCAM-3 21933 !

From: Dr. K.J. Walker <>

Subject: Re: NRM elecfn.

Date: 25 Oct 1999 02:02:18 -0500


Dear Jayant,
Yes, there are rack diseasels, including locomotives and railcars.
For
some reason, rack diseasel locos don't seem to work very well: the
Padang
Pajang line in Sumatra went through two batches in less than ten years,
which, even allowing for Indonesian attitudes to maintenance, seems a
bit
excessive. Electric or steam seems to be preferred elsewhere, too (such
as
Switzerland -- where they DO look after their equipment!)
Thanks for emphasising the economic point. Of course it would be
possible to convert YAM1s to rack (though they might wind up looking
pretty
ghastly!) but it would be prohibitively expensive, even compared to
modern
steam.
Cheers
Ken Walker



-----Original Message-----
From: Jayant S <sank@telco.email
To: Anand I.S. <isadeltic@hotmail.email
Cc: IR List <irfca@cs.email
Date: 24 October 1999 8:25
Subject: Re: NRM elecfn.


>"Anand I.S." wrote:
>
>> ......So why can't YAMs be the
>> answer ?
>
>I don't oppose electrification per se, but Dr Walker
>does have some valid questions. The grade on the rack
>section cannot be handled economically by a YAM4 working
>only on adhesion (probably even with banking assistance).
>As far as I know (YAM4 experts please correct me !), the
>YAM4 is driven by six axle-hung traction motors, and I imagine
>it would be near-impossible to package another pinion on any
>driving axle (it might even be yet cheaper to import Swiss
>locos/motor coaches of the type that work the MG Rhaetian and
>Furka-Oberalp rack RRs, if there is any OTHER compelling reason
>to electrify the NMR in the first place, that is).
>
>In any case, the long term cost implications of steam vs
>electric for the NMR should be compared exhaustively before
>a decision on motive power is taken. I suppose IR is thinking
>about a possible increase in the traffic (otherwise elecfn
>would not have been mentioned at all), which cannot be
>supported purely by the current steam fleet on the rack sections
>(YDM4s already work the non-rack section). The only new
>steam proposal came from SLM and was considered expensive,
>but would it be cheaper than modifying YAM4 locos (or buying
>new electrics/diesels/MUs), enlarging clearances for OHE,
>installing the OHE and absorbing any tourist revenue loss after
>the end of steam ? Electric traction would, conversely, support
>higher traffic volumes (assuming demand actually exists) once
>properly in place, and provide an environmental boost to the
>region. It is the possible cost which worries me.
>
>More thoughts on this would be interesting. (I have nothing
>against the YAM4 per se, btw: really nice looking loco.)
>
>Also: do diesel locos (or railcars/MUs) work rack-assisted
>trackage anywhere in the world ?
>
>--
>JS
>--
>

From: Dr. K.J. Walker <>

Subject: Re: Poona Light Rail

Date: 25 Oct 1999 02:12:20 -0500


Dear Shankar,
Forgive the intrusion! Light Rail can Mean quite a lot of different
things, depending on circumstances. Light Rail Vehicles (LRVs) most
commonly
resemble trams. Generally, they are capable of street running and
loading
from ground level; operate from a medium-tension (generally 600V) DC
overhead supply; and have lightweight vehicles (say around 15-20 tons
for a
single unit). Most Light Rail systems have some street running, but may
also
operate in reservations, on elevated track (relatively uncommon) or in
subways. All of these froms are found (for example) in Germany. But
there
are exceptions. Buffalo, NY, has a LR system that has high-platfrom
cars,
operates on the street in the central area, and enters a subway in the
suburbs! London has a fully-automated LR system with driverless cars
using a
750V third rail supply.
Even more interesting is the fact that, with the introduction of
the
very latest low-floor vehicles, ground-loading cars that are almost
stepless
have become possible, which means that the various hybrid
ground/platform
loading systems have become obsolescent at a stroke! The new low-floor
cars
are very intereeting, too, because they incorporate motors in the actual
whwwl hubs and have no axles. The vehicles are effectively
"caterpillars" --
a series of short 4-wheel units articulatede together, generally in 3s
and
4s.
I shall be very interested to see what technology Pune adopts --
over
to you, Apurva!
Cheers
Ken Walker

-----Original Message-----
From: s.shankar <shankaronline@excite.email
To: iti@vsnl.email <iti@vsnl.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: 24 October 1999 8:18
Subject: Poona Light Rail


>Hello Appu,
>You are the correct person to answer this query:
>
>I read with great interest in a website about a new light rail system
under
>construction for Poona.
>
>Today I saw again in Punecity.com about the Municipal Corporation being
>unable to handle the land acquisition aspects etc. etc.
>
>What is this LRT all about? Is it a metro, or a tram service, or is it
>simple an elevated railway like the one in Madras? What is the route?
Please
>provide details: I'm simply dying to know.
>
>When we moved to Poona in 1971, we had purchased a map produced by Tej
Bros,
>with a nice print of a train hauled by an EA/1, with an extensive
dotted
>rail line running all over the city, including some remote areas like
near
>the airport, saying 'proposed ring railway'. That was way back in 1970:
I
>have not seen any reference to this after that in the next 29 years.
>
>And is it really under construction? Or is it still only in the
proposal
>stage?
>
>Cheers.
>
>
>Shankar
>
>
>
>
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: NRM elecfn.

Date: 25 Oct 1999 02:31:20 -0500


> The special wheelsets
> may need sourcing, but a range of engines should be available
> within India.

Engines are available. Grape vine says that the Kurla shed has already
evaluated a suitable Cummins engine for retrofitting in a WDS 4 shunter.
Also
MWM/ Ruston and KOEL manufacture diesel prime movers used in railway
applications. Jamalpur workshop buys engines for their cranes as does
Plasser
India for the track maintenance machines.

We must not forget BHEL as a manufacturer of diesel locos. Their Cummins
engined 1400 HP shunter is almost the size of a WDS 6.

> > .....surely they can convert YDM 4 to run on a rack
> > section. That seems quite feasible.
> The main difficulty in converting the YDM4 to rack operation
> would be same as with a YAM4: finding space on one or more
> drive axles for another pinion to engage with the rack.
> I should imagine that the axle-mounted traction motors on a
> YDM4 are even more tightly packaged than the BG WDM2,
> considering the limited width of the MG axles.

Difficult but not impossible. Does the NMR need the full 1400 Hp of the
YDM
4 ? Or can the loco haul the rated load with four motors leaving the
center
motor pair run rack wheel ?

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: [Fwd:

Date: 25 Oct 1999 02:33:56 -0500

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: [Fwd:

Date: 25 Oct 1999 02:34:23 -0500

From: PG JULIAN RAINBOW <>

Subject: Re: G12 - G16

Date: 25 Oct 1999 03:04:41 -0500


From: "Anne Ogborn" <anniepoo@netmagic.email
To: "IRFCA" <irfca@cs.email
Subject: G12 - G16
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:59:39 -0700

Rumour has it that the EMD G12 - G16, built for
Brazil, has a strong resemblance to the WDM2.
Rumour also has it that there's a model available of
this loco.

Annie,

If there is a model available it will be made by Frateschi, a
Brazilian firm, almost certainly obtainable in UK. They do a number
of models of various American, Brazilian New Zealand and South
African diesels, some are supplied unpainted. They are not to the
same standard as models supplied in UK?Europe and Australia.

I am going home this weekend will try to remember to dig the
catalogue out.

Julian

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Notes from my weekend rail journey

Date: 25 Oct 1999 04:46:02 -0500


Hi Gang,
Just back from a DMM-SC journey last night. I was on my way back
from
Puttaparthi and wanting to have a comfortable return journey i had
booked my
tickets on the 7086 SBC-SC express. I had come to the station a good 1hr
30
min early sacrifising some time with my parents for some trainspotting.
As
soon as i entered the station the 288Dn hindupur-GTL-Raichur passenger
came
in from the Guntakal end. There was a BCN load double headed by 2 KZJ
locos
berthed on PF3(low level platform). The lead loco(18973) sported a
sparkling
new livery followed by the KZJ shed. I spotted another KZJ loco with a
similar livery(and very freshly painted too) on the hussainSAgar express

last week. It has a light green coat till half the height of the
driver's
window and then a small 6 inch white band and then red above it. It also
had
a small plate under the driver's window, with "Periodic Overhaul, Golden

Rock, Trichy, September '99" etched on it. The second loco (16335) was
also
a pretty new WDM2 which had markings "Built by DLW, August 1998" etched
on
it. The two were Mu-ed together.
I talked to the guard and the driver of this BCN formation. He

said that there were 2 ways of double heading. First was 2 sets of loco
staff on each engine driving the 2 locos in sychronization i.e they move

each notch in syc with each other. The second was the much easier MU-ing

where only one set of loco staff is needed and more easier to manage the
2
locos. As alwayswith IR they were very kind and answered my queries
patiently. A staff change is effected at DMM. They had good words for
the
facilities at the running room at DMM. On the SBC-CST route staff change

takes place at DMM, GTL, SUR and PA. The driver and guard whom i was
talking
to had brought in a BCN rake on Friday and they had to wait till Sunday
night to get back to their home (SBC). Duties are alloted on a first cum

first served basis for returning to their HQ.
Just as we were talking a massive BCC load with a twin
WDG2(Gooty)
rolled in to PF 2(again low leveled). It stopped for its crew change and
the
new driver joined us in our conversation. He says those new BCC air
brake
wagons give them almost 100% brake power when they start on their trip.
They
were all praise for the new air brake wagons. I asked them if they
needed to
undergo a special training to handle WDG2s and WDM2c. They said that
there
were 2 separate courses run at GOC each consisting of 3 months of
classes
and 45 days handling exercises. Talking about accidents they say that
95% of
the drivers are pretty strict in adhering to the limits specified. They
were
pretty emotional when they said they were being blamed for all accidents

that happen. TRue true i sided with them......... The max load on this
stretch was 3275 tonnes.
This one info is specially for Apurva's attention. I remember
one
of the drivers in PA, last week, who said that they had to do PA-Jejuri
in
one shot without any stoppage otherwise the gradient would pull them
back. I
asked the same question to the driver since DMM-SBC was a similar
stretch.
He says that there were 2 factors involved. First was the loco brake.
According to him most of the accidents like wagons backing away due to
improper braking are caused by faulty loco braking. He seemed very
unhappy
by the way in which loco brakes were maintained. He guarantees that if
the
loco brakes were perfect rolling backwards is not at all possible. With
just
the loco brakes on the whole rake formation can be halted. Any second
opinion on this ???? The second factor he said was the Loco itself.
Proper
maintenace will lead to sufficient haulage power according to him.
Psssssssst...... he had some bitter words for PA powers.
So we went on like this for a few more minutes when the first clang
clang
went off for my train's arrival. I thanked them for their time off to
talk
to me(a stranger) and they saw me off with a smile......typical IR-ish.

Kind regards,
Anand

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From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Maps

Date: 25 Oct 1999 09:55:03 -0500


Hello Annie,
Wow, that sounds fascinating.
When you say maps, do you mean IR maps or US railroad maps?
Man, the irfca could use an interactive IR map!
Why don't you go ahead and make it anyway?
I know collating and collecting info can be difficult, but you could
make a start, and put up a 'this site is still under construction' sign.

No one has responded to my maps requests yet. NOnetheless, I intend
going ahead with the site anyway, putting up the CR, SR,SE, SC, KR and
IR maps, and keeping my fingers crossed aobut the others.

Yoo hoo! Any one with ER, NR, NF, NE,SE and historical IR maps out
there?

Cheers.

Shankar


Anne Ogborn wrote:
>
> 3. HISTORICAL IR maps: just for the fascination angle: will be an
> interesting sideline. One of my books has 'railways of hte
subcontinent'
> as endpapers, but it cannot be scanned, as its only part. There is a
> nice map as endpaper in the 'IR 100 yrs.' book, but my copy is lying
in
> Poona.
>
> I've had the fantasy of writing a program to do an animation.
> It would have zoom and pan controls like a map, and would
> display a map of railroads. It also would
> have a playback line like a quicktime animation.
> When you hit play, it would roll forward in time.
> So you could zoom out and watch the general trend of railway
> development, or zoom in and watch a particular area.
> But unfortunately, while the program is fairly easy gathering
> and converting the data would be an immense job.

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: Maps

Date: 25 Oct 1999 11:04:59 -0500





>Hello Annie,
>Wow, that sounds fascinating.
>When you say maps, do you mean IR maps or US railroad maps?

Both, actually - I was going to make it world wide, and fill in as much
as I
could.
Certainly if I did the US I'd have to do mexico, and if I did India I'd
have
to
do Pakistan & Bangladesh. You could scroll through 1947 and watch the
rly
become three pieces!

>Man, the irfca could use an interactive IR map!
>Why don't you go ahead and make it anyway?

It's a few days work (at the least) to do the software.
The problem is getting the 'base maps' - I need the map data. I'm NOT
going to try to digitize all that data.
No point in doing the software unless somebody comes up with a base map.


>I know collating and collecting info can be difficult, but you could
>make a start, and put up a 'this site is still under construction'
sign.
>

And even then it's got to be converted to *vector* electronic format.

From: HVC <>

Subject: NMR Electrification(was ; Re: NRM elecfn.).

Date: 25 Oct 1999 11:40:16 -0500


Dear Anand and others,
You said it yourself. People
travel by train on this line for the novelty. And certainly there is no
novelty about a 35 year old electric loco. Only enthusiasts like us can
tell the difference between them and other `boxes under wires'. Steam
in
the 21st century will no doubt be a novelty.

It is certainly not as if the Nilgiri Railways are doomed and YAM1s are
required as the soul saviours as it is being projected. In fact there is
no
official word(read proposal) from the railways yet to use YAM 1 here
after
electrification. In all likelihood it will be proposed to use a new
electric
rack loco from SLM!

Either way they win, so what are we arguing about.

And by the way, I certainly hope that your electrification lobby is not
planning to electrify the NRM as well!!!

Harsh


-----Original Message-----
From: Anand I.S. <isadeltic@hotmail.email
To: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 10:23 PM
Subject: NRM elecfn.


>Hi everybody,
>
>I certainly don't feel it is a LOONY idea. Better a rly. than none @
all.
So
>if there is going to be no steam, then what 's wrong with elec. to run
the
>show. We will still have our rly. Surely people don't travel NRM JUST
>because it is steam. If they so do, then it is only the steam
fanatics..
>People travel the NRM JUST 4 THE RIDE of train travel. A look at the
>passengrs will tell u, how many r steam/railfans doing the trip. Most
are 4
>the novelty and of course
>honey-mooners who get additional chance to cuddle in seasonal times and
free
>in non-seasonal times.
>
>Anyway GR workshops are demonstrating their great capabilities of
>restoration of the steam. So why crib ? One cannot go on and on with
>flagging steam, or any power 4 for that matter.
>
>Modern world is throwing up many capabilities. So why can't YAMs be the
>answer.
>
>All said & done with elecs. the service would be there and one can
>still have some spl. steam sectional runs.
>
>4 tourist trades novelties r the ans. So let variety be, and the
>archieval types can always go to the steam museums.
>
>Anyhow all in fun and NO OFFENCE meant.
>
>Waiting to hear more on this.
>
>While on the subj. please note that internationally I am very much
>interested in SBB/BLS, DB, SNCF, OBB and to a lesser extant RENFE & FS
>and the balance the other Euro systems.
>So I would b happy 4 anybody with similar interests to chat with me.
>
>Bye 4 now and regards to all.
>
>anand.
>
>
>
>
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>
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From: Anurag Acharya <>

Subject: [IRFCA

Date: 25 Oct 1999 11:48:43 -0500



Folks: I am considering the possibility of moving the IRFCA mailing
list from its current home at the University of Maryland. Its been two
years since I left UMD and it is getting harder to keep track of the
status of the machine(s) the list lives on. I am also trying to see if
I can set up a digest version of the mailing list. One of the
alternatives I am considering is moving IRFCA to a public mailing list
server such as egroups.com. The advantages are: outages are less
likely, the list archive would be maintained at the server and would
be available to members and subsequent moves would probably be needed
less frequently. The disadvantages are: these servers usually attach a
short text ad at the bottom of the message and the intellectual
property issues (they can keep a copy of the content royalty-free if
they like).

I would like to hear from members on this issue.

anurag

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From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: WCAM-3 on shunting duties ?

Date: 25 Oct 1999 12:21:27 -0500


Zubin,
I've seen the same loco/s a number of times now between CST and Kurla -
interesting scheme.
Rajan

----- Original Message -----
From: Zubin Lee <zubin.lee@vsnl.email

> i returned on sunday by 2123 dn dq. i saw a couple of WCAM-3's in a
> different colour scheme. they were basically dark blue, but there was
a
> mustard yellow stripe going down the cooling vents on the sides. at
the
top
> and bottom of the yellow stripe were two thin red strips. seems that
cr is
> trying out a new colour scheme. one of the WCAM-3's (21960) was at
CSTM
trip
> shed, while the other was at CLA(T).

From: Ranganathan Kalyanasundaram (Aditi) <>

Subject: HTTP headers....

Date: 25 Oct 1999 12:44:14 -0500


Hi,
What are the possible http headers that I can specify with the HSE_REQ_SEND_RESPONSE_HEADER flag ? Where can I get the list of them ? I was trying to write a unicode buffer to the client with "Content-Type: text/plain" and the download dialog box popped up.

Thanks in advance,
Ranga

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: Needs tips for KR travel

Date: 25 Oct 1999 12:52:12 -0500


Gang - (especially to Apurva, Vijay, Sarosh and anyone taking the KR
soon)

Lets start from Diva. As you move out , observe from the left the
junction
from the CR main line and the line coming from Dombivili (I met Anand
yesterday who shared this tip with me - and even Sundar swears by this
junction .... ). You can see the triangle quite clearly. Then, generally
right till Chiplun you can sit/observe the right hand side (when headed
towards Goa). The scenery is more varied and more open spaces. (The
other
side will have a lot of cut rock faces - evidently quite boring).

Between Chiplun and Nandgaon generally observe to your left side (except
for
the time you approach Ratnagiri and pass the 5-6 viaducts after
Ratnagiri
(including the Panval Nadi Viaduct - Viaduct no 3 - the right side
offers a
grand spectacular view of the valley).

From Nandgaon onwards right through, generally the right side is scenic
and
recommended. Not much scenery till Savantwadi. Goa offers specatcular
coastal scenery on the right. (Apurva - you've been to Goa so may be you
can
add a few of your bits ... )

+++Directions are all headed towards Goa

Regarding the crew, I've not interacted much, but I once met a Mr. A.S.
Kumar based in Madgaon, who allowed me to photograph the loco. The light
was
poor so all I got was a dawn shot...


So long, Enjoy / Rajan

----- Original Message -----
From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
To: Rajan Mathew <rajanmathew@telebot.email
Cc: Vijay Balasubramanian <VBalasubramanian@softrax.email
<irfca@cs.email
Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Needs tips for KR travel


> > Don't worry .. you will have to dedicate another trip for all that
...
"too
> > much for the railways to show you in one day" Just be positive about
what
> > you're getting below...
>
> I love this term - too much of railways in a day. Like you recommend
facing left
> between Goa and Kerala, which is the favoured side in the Diva - Goa
section.
> How friendly is the crew ? What are the crew changing points for a
train
like
> Mandovi Express ? CSTM - Ratnagiri, Ratnagiri - Madgaon ?
> I wish you would make a railfanning map of the KR based on your
'railway
> oriented' map making skills, highlighting the points with a small note
-
forest
> section, river section, ghat section, viaduct section etc. You could
even
split
> it in small sections like CSTM - Roha on separate sheets. You could
draw
it by
> hand and scan it. I remember the excellent hand drawn map of the
Wankaner -
> Morbi area with notes in German (on International steam pages ?). That
had
the
> railfanning and scenic notes written on the map. I wonder if you have
seen
this
> map ?
>
> Apurva
>
>

From: Wade Hilmo <>

Subject: Re: HTTP headers....

Date: 25 Oct 1999 13:04:10 -0500


You can put any headers in their you like, as long as it conforms to the "<header>: <value>" format and doesn't include reserved or restricted characters. There are a number of them that are well defined in various RFC's - you'd just need to look them up.

The important thing is that you understand how the client acts on your response headers. For example, in the situation below, you are telling the client that you are sending a response of type "text/plain". Depending on how it's configured, the client could try to render the data in the browser window, start a helper application like notepad to render the data, or it could prompt you to save it. That behavior is really up to the client.

Also, I don't know how safe it is to tell the client that you're sending "text/plain" when you're really sending unicode. I would guess that IE might be able to handle this, but I have no idea how Navigator, Opera, etc. would deal with it.

Thanks,
-Wade

-----Original Message-----
From: Ranganathan Kalyanasundaram (Aditi)
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:44 PM
To: Internet Server API Discussion
Subject: HTTP headers....

Hi,
What are the possible http headers that I can specify with the HSE_REQ_SEND_RESPONSE_HEADER flag ? Where can I get the list of them ? I was trying to write a unicode buffer to the client with "Content-Type: text/plain" and the download dialog box popped up.

Thanks in advance,
Ranga

From: David Qiu <>

Subject: Re: HTTP headers....

Date: 25 Oct 1999 13:13:34 -0500


HSE_REQ_SEND_RESPONSE_HEADER_EX is better than ...

Here is a sample:

HSE_SEND_HEADER_EX_INFO HeaderExInfo;

//
// prepare headers
//

HeaderExInfo.pszStatus = "200 OK";
HeaderExInfo.pszHeader = "Content-type: text/html\r\n\r\n";
HeaderExInfo.cchStatus = strlen( HeaderExInfo.pszStatus );
HeaderExInfo.cchHeader = strlen( HeaderExInfo.pszHeader );
HeaderExInfo.fKeepConn = FALSE;

//
// send headers using IIS-provided callback
// (note - if we needed to keep connection open,
// we would set fKeepConn to TRUE *and* we would
// need to provide correct Content-Length: header)

pECB->ServerSupportFunction(
pECB->ConnID,
HSE_REQ_SEND_RESPONSE_HEADER_EX,
&HeaderExInfo,
NULL,
NULL
);

You can email WiniTalk about the correct response headers for UNICODE stuff.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Hilmo
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 1:04 PM
To: Ranganathan Kalyanasundaram (Aditi); Internet Server API Discussion
Subject: RE: HTTP headers....

You can put any headers in their you like, as long as it conforms to the "<header>: <value>" format and doesn't include reserved or restricted characters. There are a number of them that are well defined in various RFC's - you'd just need to look them up.

The important thing is that you understand how the client acts on your response headers. For example, in the situation below, you are telling the client that you are sending a response of type "text/plain". Depending on how it's configured, the client could try to render the data in the browser window, start a helper application like notepad to render the data, or it could prompt you to save it. That behavior is really up to the client.

Also, I don't know how safe it is to tell the client that you're sending "text/plain" when you're really sending unicode. I would guess that IE might be able to handle this, but I have no idea how Navigator, Opera, etc. would deal with it.

Thanks,
-Wade

-----Original Message-----
From: Ranganathan Kalyanasundaram (Aditi)
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:44 PM
To: Internet Server API Discussion
Subject: HTTP headers....

Hi,
What are the possible http headers that I can specify with the HSE_REQ_SEND_RESPONSE_HEADER flag ? Where can I get the list of them ? I was trying to write a unicode buffer to the client with "Content-Type: text/plain" and the download dialog box popped up.

Thanks in advance,
Ranga

From: HVC <>

Subject: Re: Maps

Date: 25 Oct 1999 13:25:47 -0500


Dear Shankar,
I can send you any maps that you like.

However you are requested to check some facts about this beforehand.
Without
permissions using material from an external source can lead into the
messy
world of copyright infringement.

Perhaps the more knowledgeable on the subject can guide U better on
this.

I however have no qualms about providing copies of the maps anytime you
want
them.
Regards,

Harsh


-----Original Message-----
From: S.Shankar <shankie@emirates.email
To: Anne Ogborn <anniepoo@netmagic.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: Maps


>Hello Annie,
>Wow, that sounds fascinating.
>When you say maps, do you mean IR maps or US railroad maps?
>Man, the irfca could use an interactive IR map!
>Why don't you go ahead and make it anyway?
>I know collating and collecting info can be difficult, but you could
>make a start, and put up a 'this site is still under construction'
sign.
>
>No one has responded to my maps requests yet. NOnetheless, I intend
>going ahead with the site anyway, putting up the CR, SR,SE, SC, KR and
>IR maps, and keeping my fingers crossed aobut the others.
>
>Yoo hoo! Any one with ER, NR, NF, NE,SE and historical IR maps out
>there?
>
>Cheers.
>
>Shankar
>
>
>Anne Ogborn wrote:
>>
>> 3. HISTORICAL IR maps: just for the fascination angle: will be an
>> interesting sideline. One of my books has 'railways of hte
subcontinent'
>> as endpapers, but it cannot be scanned, as its only part. There is a
>> nice map as endpaper in the 'IR 100 yrs.' book, but my copy is lying
in
>> Poona.
>>
>> I've had the fantasy of writing a program to do an animation.
>> It would have zoom and pan controls like a map, and would
>> display a map of railroads. It also would
>> have a playback line like a quicktime animation.
>> When you hit play, it would roll forward in time.
>> So you could zoom out and watch the general trend of railway
>> development, or zoom in and watch a particular area.
>> But unfortunately, while the program is fairly easy gathering
>> and converting the data would be an immense job.
>

From: Vdate <>

Subject: Re: [IRFCA] considering IRFCA mailing list move

Date: 25 Oct 1999 14:05:37 -0500


As somebody who is at the receiving end of knowledge gradient, the IP
issue
does not bother me. In general IRFCA members do not seem to be it for
profits. Furthermore, members have liberty do discuss business and
potential
IP issues off line. Therefore, I have no objection to the moving.
Thanks for
administering.

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