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From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: The old 81/82 and 103/104

Date: 15 Sep 1999 08:09:44 -0500


Jishnu Mukerji wrote:

[ ... snip snip for brevity ... ]

>
> Then around 1968 or so, I think a little before the Howrah Rajdhani
was
> introduced, the weekly via Patna 103/104 was introduced, and I believe
> for a period 103/104 ran in the same slot west of MGS, and ran in
> different slots east of Asansol. Naturally 81/82 was about two hours
> faster than 103/104. Then after the introduction of the Rajdhani
someone
> came up with the idea that 81/82 and 103/104 could use the same slot
> east of Asansol if 81/82 could be routed via Varanasi, slowing it down
> some, and if 103/104 were speeded up some, around this time 103/104
was
> bi-weekly and 81/82 was triweekly, and of course Rajdhani when
> introduced was bi-weekly, thus covering all seven days of the week
with
> a Deluxe train.
>
> Then progressively the frequency of 103/104 (and of 101/102 Rajdhani)
> was increased, and finally 105/106 Rajdhani via Patna was introduced
> etc.

105/106 Patna Rajdhani? I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote
that last
sentence.

> Please do take the dates in this message with a pinch of salt since I
> don't exactly remember. But the general alignment of the schedules is
> more accurate I think.

Jishnu.

From: S.SRINIVAS <>

Subject: Re: why only Hyderabad

Date: 15 Sep 1999 08:57:23 -0500


dear dr. parthasarathy

hi. i thought that irfca was an all india outfit - EVEN THOUGH THERE
ARE MANY
RAILFAN
MEMBERS WHO ARE WORKING / SETTLED OUTSIDE OF INDIA - and so the
invitation
should be to all. yes, if some members from places other than
hyd/sec'bad just
happen to be in hyd
on the day u plan the meet, it will be just lovely for others to join
too. i
hope u agree.

even if we outsiders are not able to join, we all would love to receive
a
brief report about your
meeting / discussions / plans. maybe, there should be a plan for
journeying on
the lovely konkan
railway or a jaunt on the vizag to araku vally line. if u come up with
some
such idea, or maybe
even a better idea, we could all go on the trip together.

regards

S. SRINIVAS
BANGALORE
(080) 330 - 5633


Dr. S. PARTHASARATHY wrote:

> Are there any members of this list located in and around
> Hyderabad/Secunderabad ? Please get in touch with me directly. I was
> thinking of organising a get together.
>
> ...partha
>
>
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> Algologic Research & Solutions
> 78 Sancharpuri Colony
> Bowenpally P.O.
> Secunderabad 500 011 - India
> e mail: algolog@hd1.email (Note: h-d-one after the @
symbol)
> URL: members.tripod.com/~algolog
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From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Agniveena Exp.(was Re: IR train names and their significance) .

Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:14:36 -0500


Vijay Balasubramanian wrote:
>
> I do remember seeing this train in a late 70s timetable. It had two
halts -
> Durgapur and Raniganj. Was the first train to skip Barddhaman and
halt
> at Durgapur.
>

Well, it has now evolved to a train that not only stops at Barddhaman,
but also
stops at Panagarh, Andal and Raniganj, in addition to Durgapur, and is
slower
than Coalfield Express to Asansol, which skips Barddhaman, while
stopping at
Mankar, Panagarh, Durgapur, Waria, Andal, Raniganj.

Jishnu.

From: C. Zeni <>

Subject: Re: Blue Flag in the USA was Danger Signs et al

Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:15:00 -0500


Jishnu Mukerji wrote:
>
> Apurva Bahadur wrote:
snip
> > On the IR if a rake is being stabled for a long period, I have
observed that
> > junta just uncouples the brake hoses to prevent it being moved (also
stones
> > placed on both sides of the wheel !). Some freight wagon in a siding
often
> > are padlocked with a chain to the rail to prevent unintended
movement
> > (rolling away ?).
>
> In the US when a rake is stabled, hand brakes must be applied
throughout.

I believe that this policy varies by railroad. When leaving a long rake
of cars on either Norfolk Southern or CSX, the crew applies the
handbrakes on only enough cars to keep the rake from rolling away. This
of course varies by terrain, and the crew's rulebook specifies how many
brakes should be applied at a given location if it differs from normal
practice. And FWIW, in the Southeast US this is called "tying down" the
handbrakes.
--
Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com
<A HREF="http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html">http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html</A>

When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. - Henny
Youngman

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Anyone have these Inter-Station Distances, please?

Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:53:51 -0500


Some more distances -

ER,BG,Hathidah Jn. 13 Simaria 6 Barauni Jn.

SCR,BG,Bantanahal,Nancherla (this would bypass Guntakal. Can't seem to
recall spotting a bypass line north of Guntakal. Does this really
exist?)

SCR,BG,Kolhapur 7 Valivade 7 Rukadi 7 Hatkanangale 6 N. Tamdalge Halt 9
Jaysingpur 2 Miraj Jn. 6 Vishrambag 2 Sangli 3 Madhavnagar 9 Nandre 7
Bhilavadi 7 Amnapur Halt 7 Kidoskarwadi 8 Takari 6 Bhavani Nagar 8
Shenoli
13 Karad 8 Shiravade 6 Masur 12 Targaon 11 Rahimatpur 10 Koregaon 11
Satara 8 Jarandeshwar 9 Palsi 9 Wathar 10 Adarki 8 Salpa 9 Lonand 8
Nira 10
Walha 9 Daundaj 7 Jejuri 13 Rajevadi 4 Ambale 10 Shindawane 8 Alandi 7
Phursungi 5 Sasvad Road 9 Ghorpuri 3 Pune Jn.

SCR,BG,Gudur Jn. 10 Kondagunta 10 Vendodu 8 Nidigallu 8 Venkatagiri 6
Yataluru 6 Yellakaru 7 Akkurti 5 Sri Kalahasti 7 Rachaganneri 7 Yerpedu
10
Renigunta Jn.

SCR,BG,Bhimavaram Town 7 Vendra Jn.

SCR,MG,Tirupati 1 Tirupati West 11 Chandragiri 3 Kotala Halt 14
Panapakam 12
Pakala Jn.

SCR,MG,Pakala Jn. 15 Putalapattu 15 Chittor 8 Siddampalli 3 Peyanapalli
Halt
6 Ramapuram 6 Bommasamudram 10 Katpadi Jn.

SER,BG,Santragachi Jn. 4 Padmapukur 1 Shalimar

SER,BG,Nagpur Jn. 3 Itwari 3 Kalamna

SER,BG,Panskura Jn. 8 Raghunathbari 8 Rajgoda 5 Saheed Matengini P. Halt
3
Tamluk Jn.

SER,BG,Tamluk Jn. 6 Keshabpur 9 Mahisadal 9 Barda 5 Bhulyasutahata 6
Durga
Chak 3 Durga Chak Town 3 Silpaprabesh 5 Haldia

SER,BG,Santragachi Jn. 5 Bankaranayabaz 4 Kona 3 Dansi 4 Makardaha 3
Domjur
3 Dakshinbari 4 Bargachia Jn.

SER,NG,Katangi 5 LakhanwaraHalt 8 Kachewahi Halt 4 Saongi Jn. 8
Waraseoni 8
Garta Halt 10 Balaghat Jn.

SER,NG,Jabalpur Jn. 4 Howbag 6 Gowrighat 5 Jamtara-Paraswara Halt 8
Charghat
Piparia Halt 7 Burgi 21 Sukrimangela 6 Shikara 10 Binaikis 12 Ghunsore
6
Nidhani Halt 14 Pindrai 13 Nainpur Jn. 14 Padriganj 6 Gudru 7 Nagarwara
8
Lamta 11 Charegaon 13 Samnapur 7 Balaghat Jn. 14 Hatta Road 3 Khora
Halt 7
Birsola 4 Gatra Halt 4 Pratap Bagh 9 Gondia Jn.


Vijay

From: Prateep Chatterjee <>

Subject: Re: IR train names and their significance

Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:57:43 -0500


Hi !

> Hmmm... my timetable lists a separate Magadh Vikramshila Exp
(2391/2392, the
> Magadh Exp. to which you refer) and a Vikramshila Exp (3467/3468).
> Bhagalpur, incidentally, is the railhead for the Vikramshila site.

That's right. Magadh-Vikramshila Exp. starts from New Delhi in the
evening and
at Patna next morning, Magadh Exp. terminates. From Patna a part of the
rake
goes to Bhagalpur as the Vikramshila Exp. Its like a link exp. (but with
a
name).

MV Exp. was, till recently I guess, one of those few trains on the
Kanpur-New
Delhi route which used to skip Etawah (which comes quite late in the
night for
both up/down exps.). As far as I remember, it now has a stop, thanks to
the
insistent forms of protests carried out by the Etawah junta.

Prateep


--
--------------------------------------------------
Prateep Chatterjee
Graduate Student
Department of Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
and Engineering Mechanics
University of Missouri-Rolla
Rolla, MO 65409
Phone : (573) 308-1542
--------------------------------------------------

From: Prateep Chatterjee <>

Subject: Re: Agniveena Exp.(was Re: IR train names and their significance).

Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:06:08 -0500


Jishnu Mukerji wrote:

> Well, it has now evolved to a train that not only stops at Barddhaman,
but also
> stops at Panagarh, Andal and Raniganj, in addition to Durgapur, and is
slower
> than Coalfield Express to Asansol, which skips Barddhaman, while
stopping at
> Mankar, Panagarh, Durgapur, Waria, Andal, Raniganj.

The Panagarh, Andal and Raniganj stoppages are justified (the lack of
short
distance trains). The Barddhaman stop is the problematic one : people
who should
travel by the local trains (which have a quite high frequency both on
the main and
chord lines) tend to go for the Asansol Exp. instead. Of course, this
problem is
not confined to the Asn Exp., while on the Kalka Mail I have noticed
daily
passengers (who have a passenger pass meant for the local trains)
traveling till
BRD. This kind of a thing is possible because the TTEs only start
checking the
tickets after BRD.

Prateep

--
--------------------------------------------------
Prateep Chatterjee
Graduate Student
Department of Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
and Engineering Mechanics
University of Missouri-Rolla
Rolla, MO 65409
Phone : (573) 308-1542
--------------------------------------------------

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: IR train names and their significance

Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:26:13 -0500


>MV Exp. was, till recently I guess, one of those few trains on the
>Kanpur-New
>Delhi route which used to skip Etawah (which comes quite late in the
night
>for
>both up/down exps.). As far as I remember, it now has a stop, thanks to
the
>insistent forms of protests carried out by the Etawah junta.
>
>Prateep
>
It continues to skip Etawah but has halts at Firozabad and Shikohabad

(added about 5 years back). Tracing its origin back to the early 80s,
the
first superfast train to be introduced between Delhi and Bhagalpur was
the
Vikramshila Exp. which ran non-stop between Delhi and Kanpur. This was
introduced along with the Gomti Exp. which had a lone halt at Tundla
(only
towards Lucknow). These two trains were a breath of fresh air in the
Delhi-Kanpur section since, for over a decade, the Rajdhani Exp. was the

only train to run non-stop between N.Delhi and Kanpur.

After the Delhi-Muzaffarpur Jayanti Janata Exp. was rerouted via
Mirzapur
(thanks to Ghani Khan Chowdhary :-( ), the biweekly JJ and biweekly
Vikramshila started runnning on the same schedule between Delhi and
Kiul.
Pretty soon, the triweekly Sonbhadhra Exp. was introduced which shared
schedules with the above two till Patna.

Within a year or so, the JJ exp. was rerouted via
Lucknow-Gorakhpur-Sonpur
on the newly converted BG link. The Sonbhadhra and Vikramshila were
combined into one train called the Magadh Exp., a portion of which would
get
detached at Patna and go till Bhagalpur as the Vikramshila Exp.

Vijay

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From: S.Shankar <>

Subject: May I?

Date: 15 Sep 1999 13:26:55 -0500


Hello,
Just to seek the permission of those of you who have websites already.

I've added several international railway links to my super-railway page.
One even provides a search engine.

Check it out at:

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/superrailway.htm">http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Coast/9896/superrailway.htm</A>

Of course, the understanding is, that these sites provide a link to my
super-railway site as well. I therefore have that many extra links
worldwide. I see that Apurva's IR pics, and Sundar's IRIZ and Train
gallery are already there in several international sites.

My site as youall know already consists of four pages: intro, steam,
electric and miscellany. I'm now thinking of making a fifth page of IR
links only.
I intend providing links to all irfca member pages in that. I already
have the urls for several member sites.

Does anyone have any objection to my adding another page to my
superrailway site linking to all the member pages I have? Do please let
me know.
I already have the urls for the webpages of Appu, Sundar, Larry
Russell, Vijay, Sridhar S, myself of course, C.CL Zeni, the unofficial
irfca page by Steven Brown, Avinash Pandey, of course our dear friends
Sarosh and Viraf: the godfathers of steam. I also have one of Bharat's
sites called Rail in India, with links to their Ooty trips and passing
trains site.

If any of you has any objection, please feel free to say so.
On the other hand, if anyone's site is not here, then do send me the
url.

I'll also link to the nrm site, as well as say the dlw. The idea is to
show the world what a fantastic rail system we actually have.

Cheers.
Shankar

From: S Pai <>

Subject: battery locomotives

Date: 15 Sep 1999 14:38:37 -0500



A reply from Mr Dhanapaul to my questions about the battery locomotives
made by his firm.

--Satish

----------------------------------------------------------------


hai sathish
thanks for your response,
battery locomotives are made for use in the mines where ventilation
standards are stiff enough to justify the use of battery locomotives.
to compare the cost of the battery loc is 3 times that of the same
capacity
diesel loco still the cost is justified due to the ventilation standard
in
the under ground operation such as tunneling , miune etc..
the batter locomotives made by my company is of capacity upto 100 hp
and the track guage is as per customers requirement from 610 mm to 1676
mm
in all possible guages.
the batteries used are traction batteries of rating up to 700 ah in
voltages
up to 220 volts from 24 volts onwards.
these locos are generally rigid frame locos with 2 axles if higher
starting
weights are required two locos are used in multiple operation
please clarify about the irfca setup?
what is it and where situated?
please feel free to ask any querries
bye
regards
dhanapaul

>From: S Pai <s_pai@bigfoot.email
>Reply-To: irfca@cs.email
>To: irfca@cs.email oepl@hotmail.email
>Subject: Battery locomotives
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:41:36 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Dear Sri Dhanapaul,
>
>Your contact information was forwarded by Apurva Bahadur. I am
interested
>in learning about the battery locomotives you produce. Are they in
use
>by Indian Railways, or are they manufactured for other countries? I
>presume
>they are meant for use as shunters, mostly? What gauges, horsepower,
etc.?
>What kind of batteries are in use (number and capacity)? What are the
>wheel and bogie arrangements? What is the distance range and top
speed?
>
>Thanks in advance for any information you can provide on this.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Satish
>

From: S Pai <>

Subject: battery locomotives

Date: 15 Sep 1999 14:38:37 -0500



A reply from Mr Dhanapaul to my questions about the battery locomotives
made by his firm.

--Satish

----------------------------------------------------------------


hai sathish
thanks for your response,
battery locomotives are made for use in the mines where ventilation
standards are stiff enough to justify the use of battery locomotives.
to compare the cost of the battery loc is 3 times that of the same
capacity
diesel loco still the cost is justified due to the ventilation standard
in
the under ground operation such as tunneling , miune etc..
the batter locomotives made by my company is of capacity upto 100 hp
and the track guage is as per customers requirement from 610 mm to 1676
mm
in all possible guages.
the batteries used are traction batteries of rating up to 700 ah in
voltages
up to 220 volts from 24 volts onwards.
these locos are generally rigid frame locos with 2 axles if higher
starting
weights are required two locos are used in multiple operation
please clarify about the irfca setup?
what is it and where situated?
please feel free to ask any querries
bye
regards
dhanapaul

>From: S Pai <s_pai@bigfoot.email
>Reply-To: irfca@cs.email
>To: irfca@cs.email oepl@hotmail.email
>Subject: Battery locomotives
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:41:36 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Dear Sri Dhanapaul,
>
>Your contact information was forwarded by Apurva Bahadur. I am
interested
>in learning about the battery locomotives you produce. Are they in
use
>by Indian Railways, or are they manufactured for other countries? I
>presume
>they are meant for use as shunters, mostly? What gauges, horsepower,
etc.?
>What kind of batteries are in use (number and capacity)? What are the
>wheel and bogie arrangements? What is the distance range and top
speed?
>
>Thanks in advance for any information you can provide on this.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Satish
>

From: Mike Brooker <>

Subject: Re: IR train names and their significance

Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:42:05 -0500


>>> Mumbai-Jammu Tawi Swaraj Exp.
>>> swaraj = independence
>>Another generally coined train.
>
>
>This was simply known as Superfast Express and was renamed to Swaraj
Exp.
in
>1992 - the 50th anniversary of Quit India Movement.


I see that some trains have been named after Gandhian concepts, such as
Swaraj and Ahimsa. So is there a "Satyagraha Express" too?
>
>
>>> New Delhi-Amritsar Shan-e-Punjab Exp.
>>> shan = pride, Shan-e-Punjab = Punjab's pride
>>Shan-e-Punjab may also be a Sikh folk festival?
>
>
>No such thing.
>
>Harsh

off topic, but...Canada is home to a very large Sikh community. There
is an
Indian restaurant in Toronto called "Shan-e-Punjab". There are also
Indian
restaurants here "Woodlands" and "Host", that have no connections with
restaurants of the same names in New Delhi.

Is the "Geetanjali Express" named for Rabindranath Tagore's work? I
would
presume it serves his home state of West Bengal.

********************************************************************
Mike Brooker
99 Wychcrest Ave.,
Toronto, ON M6G 3X8
CANADA
(416) 536-7406
********************************************************************

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: BG Steam.

Date: 15 Sep 1999 19:41:03 -0500


> >
> > The Godrej gang now aims their sites at Saharanpur shed for
> > their annual pilgrimage.


Appu,

Sarosh & myself did visit Saharanpur Shed a few years back only to find
that the steam had finished a week ago. All that we saw was a graveyard
of
WPs. It was so very disapointing. Yes it will be a treat to our eyes to
see the mighty WPs in action at Saharanpur. So a pilgrimage there is not
ruled out.

Also on our travel plans is a trip on Konkan Railway (but that can
wait),
Jabalpur - Gondia, Khandwa - Ratlam, NG lines around Baroda and a trip
to
Sarosh's home town Bhavnagar of which he boasts a lot.

Regards

Viraf



==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrej.email
==========================

From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: Re: Wrong destination.

Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:32:44 -0500




On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, STEEL DIVN wrote:

> We also cannot understand how the message addressed to
> Indian Rails <irfca@cs.email received by us.
>
> Please help.


Someone from your end might have subscribed to this railway group.Anyway
if you still are receiving these mails , make a request for
unsubscribing
to the mail administrator of this group on

irfca-request@cs.email

Once he removes your mail-id from the mailing list, no such mails will
come
your way.

I hope this will help you,find a way out.

Bye,

S. V. Joshi

From: Avinash Pandey <>

Subject: Re: Regional names of trains

Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:56:29 -0500


Hi Apurva:

What timing! I was going to put out an explanation for Rewanchal
Express since it had not received mention, but you got ahead, which
is great!

Apurva is right as about the train route, this CR train runs between
Rewa and Bhopal (actually Habibgunj, a suburban station) and
depending on the day of the week it travels:
Rewa-Satna-Maihar-Katni-Jabalpur-Pipariya-Itarsi-Bhopal (Hababigunj)
or
Rewa-Satna-Maihar-Katni-Damoh-Sagar-Bina-Bhopal (Hababigunj)

The train name Rewanchal is derived from one of its originating points:
Rewa.
Rewa is a medium sized city in north-eastern Madhya Pradesh, also
home to the influential (now fading) Congress leader Arjun Singh.
Rewa is off the Itarsi-Jabalpur-Satna-Manikpur-Allahabad main line,
there is a link line of about 54 km between Satna and Rewa
(courtsey Arjun Singh, ofcourse!). Needless to say, the
Rewanchal Express connects the people from the Rewa area and
the politicos in Bhopal! (apart from serving stranded passsengers
like Apurva!).

Avinash

Apurva Bahadur wrote:

> There is a 1266/68 Rewa - Bhopal (Habibganj) express which works via
Bina
> (1266) or via Jabalpur - Itarsi (1268) depending on the day of the
week.
> We happened to hitch a ride on this train from Katni to Itarsi in 1997
> when our regular train got canceled due to derailment at Maihar.
>
> What surprised me was that the entire station referred to this train
as
> Rewanchal express (after goddess/ river Rewa ?)
> This was utter chaos, we were bone tired, in a shock and panic to know
> that our comfortable AC berth on the Mahanagari Exp to Mumbai would
not
> arrive at all, it was raining, slippery, the Katni platform was
bursting
> with stranded passengers AND the power failed (it was night). On top
of
> that everyone I talked to spoke of the Rewanchal express that we could
> easily take to Itarsi to attempt catching another train to Mumbai.
> This was one time that my study and knowledge of the timetable fell
short.
> Even today the tt does not make any mention of the name to this
1266/68
> express. So maybe this is a local name that the CR management in
Mumbai
> does not know. Maybe Jabalpur niwasi Avinash has an explanation ?
>
> Apurva

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Regional names of trains

Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:25:21 -0500


My point is not about the train itself but the name Rewanchal Express
which is
common only in Jabalpur division, the CR HQ in Mumbai (via their TT)
does not
apparently recognize this name. A person from non Jabalpur parts (but
familiar
with the CR tt) will be foxed by the appearance of train which is not
listed in
the tt !

Apurva

Avinash Pandey wrote:

> Hi Apurva:
>
> What timing! I was going to put out an explanation for Rewanchal
> Express since it had not received mention, but you got ahead, which
> is great!

From: Pradip613 <>

Subject: Please re-enroll me

Date: 16 Sep 1999 05:39:20 -0500


I am back from my trip. I am able to access my e-mail again. Please
re-enroll
me and let those information and insight packed e-mails coming to me.
Thanks.

Pradip Rao

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: IR train names and their significance

Date: 16 Sep 1999 07:33:09 -0500


> JHELUM Express - Apurva - tell me if I am right. A few people I know
in
> Pune used to call this train ZOOLUM express (ZOOLUM - actually ZULM in
> Hindi/Urdu stands for an ordeal/torture). This train ran perenially
late on
> its ride to Jammu.

This has been mentioned by Bill Aitkin in his Exploring Indian Railways
book, Jhelum
is Zulm while Teensukhia mail is Teendukhia etc. The train is
surprisingly regular. My
usual time around the Pune Jn. is 1500 - 1730 when the Up Deccan
Express, Udyan
Express and Koyna depart towards CSTM. Jhelum comes into Pune at around
that time and
is usually almost on time, some delay is excusable considering the
distance that the
train travels.

>
>
> KERALA MANGALA Express - This train now runs separated as the Kerala
and
> Mangala. I remember seeing the train board "Kerala Mangala Express" at
a
> crossing sometime in '85 when I was 10 - and I want someone to
corroborate
> this.
>
> MINAR Express - was one of the best trains out of Mumbai to reach
> Hyderabad/Secunderabad - until they extended it to Bhubaneshwar and
renamed
> it Konark I guess.
>
> BALAJI Express - this is the name of the train that goes from Mumbai
CST to
> Tirupati two days a week. When tickets to MAS are in short supply,
this is
> the ideal way to travel from Mumbai. Book tickets on this one (usually
> available) from CST to RU (Renigunta). This train leaves CST at 12:15
pm
> and reaches RU next day near 1:00 pm. You can have lunch there in the
> station and take an unreserved ride on 6011 CST-MAS Express that
reaches RU
> at 2:00 pm. After that its a 140? km/3 hr ride to Chennai. RU has a
> terrific curve for Tirupati on the West side that leaves the line even
> before the end of the platform!
>
> I guess MAHARASHTRA express and GUJARAT express are two examples of
state
> name expresses that dont travel to Delhi unlike all southern states
and
> Goa. And MAHARASHTRA Express doesnt even touch Mumbai - the capital!
>
> Regards
>
> Sundar
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Sundar Krishnamurthy Datamatics-ASCOM, Somerset NJ
> sundar@spyring.email <A HREF="http://sundar.cjb.net">http://sundar.cjb.net</A>
> ICQ: 3159776 Tel (O): +1-732-828 8686
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Only the Paranoid Survive - Andrew Grove, intel

From: Sundar Krishnamurthy <>

Subject: Time out: LIVIN' THE VIRAR LOCAL

Date: 16 Sep 1999 07:36:53 -0500


LIVIN' THE VIRAR LOCAL
Sung to the tune of Livin' Da Vida Loca by Ricky Martin
-------------------------------------------------------

He's in a Virar Local,
Destination Goregaon.
Right hand's holding Mid-Day,
With left he's hanging on...

Pushed in at Dadar station,
Got a few blows on his mouth.
Crushed beyond recognition,
Wallet's been taken out...

They'll stand on your lil pinkies,
When you get into the train.
They squeeze your breath from both of your lungs,
Until they make you scream in pain.

And all your settings gone in vain, C' MON

CHORUS:
Upside, inside out
Livin' the Virar local.
They'll push and pull you out,
Livin' the Virar local.
And who's gonna tell them no?
You try and they'll make you choe-a
Livin' the Virar local.
Hey...
Livin' the Virar local.

Wake up... in Borivli,
Oh shit, missed Goregaon.
And now, he's feeling silly,
Because, he's in Naigaon...

They took all his clothes off
And had him dancing in the train,
They made him sing a bhajan
until they drove the man insane.
And then he lost his left eye to a stone.C'MON

Livin' the Virar local.
Hey...
Livin' the Virar local.
Hey...
Livin' the Virar local.



------------------------------------------------------
Sundar Krishnamurthy Datamatics-ASCOM, Somerset NJ
sundar@spyring.email <A HREF="http://sundar.cjb.net">http://sundar.cjb.net</A>
ICQ: 3159776 Tel (O): +1-732-828 8686
------------------------------------------------------
Only the Paranoid Survive - Andrew Grove, intel

From: C. Zeni <>

Subject: Re: Time out: LIVIN' THE VIRAR LOCAL

Date: 16 Sep 1999 08:22:37 -0500


It's clear that Sundar has too much free time on his hands... :)
--
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