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Date: 22 Jun 1999 22:17:05 -0500


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From: hvc <>

Subject: Re: Indrayani Express

Date: 22 Jun 1999 22:40:24 -0500


Sorry, but I meant passenger stock. I believe the last train to be
convereted to air-brake was the Bombay-Pune passenger.

BTW I don't think the EMUs climb the real ghats.
Don't the Pune -Lonavala EMUs have a motorman in the rear cabin and in
that
case I suppose it is as good as a banker. Do these EMUs have 2 or 3
power
coaches? I cannot recall.

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
To: hvc <hvc@vsnl.email
Cc: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: Indrayani Express


>Many rakes like TK and BCX are still vaccum braked. Only light powers
and
EMUs
>(to work Pune - Lonavala suburban section) climb the ghats without a
banker.
>Even a single coach train (like a GM or inspection special) is banked.
>Most of the freight out of Pune are cement carrying BCN wagons.
>
>hvc wrote:
>
>> >There have been a couple of incidents where a climbing rake parted
>> coupling
>> >and rolled back.
>> >In one such incident the climbing freight rake did not have a
banker.
The
>> >driver of the lead loco got an erroneous reading of vacuum being OK
by a
>> rag
>> >(or a dead rat ?) in the brake pipe.
>>
>> Are there still any vaccum-brake-only and without banker trains still
>> running in the Bhore/ Thull ghats?
>
>

From: Jayant S <>

Subject: DHR QUERY

Date: 22 Jun 1999 23:11:07 -0500


A friend of mine forwarded this query
from David Charlesworth. Can anyone
throw some light on this ?

>Need a bit of help please...
>
>Do you have any information on the Tipong colliery, where some of the
>DHR tanks went in the 1970s? They were still working in 1991.

Anyone please ?
--
JS
--

From: Ravi Joshi <>

Subject: Re: Marklin Train Sets.

Date: 22 Jun 1999 23:42:13 -0500


Rolex Lanolin at Bombay are the official dealers for Marklin in India. They have some stuff which they are selling at a discount just now. But they do not have any starter sets in stock. Contact Mrs. Falguni Zaveri at falguni@rolexlanolin.email <mailto:falguni@rolexlanolin.email or visit their site at www.rolexlanolin.com <<A HREF="http://www.rolexlanolin.com>">http://www.rolexlanolin.com></A>
 
Dr. Ravi Joshi

----- Original Message -----
From: Karthik Giddu <mailto:gidduk@vsnl.email
To: irfca@cs.email <mailto:irfca@cs.email
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:12 PM
Subject: Marklin Train Sets.

Hi Gang,
Can anyone tell me where do u get marklin Model train sets in India.
In case of any other country what would the price of a basic model set.
Thanks,
Karthik
 

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: information

Date: 22 Jun 1999 23:52:37 -0500


Muhammed Khan wrote:
>
> Hi David:
> Women coaches was a speaility of the Indian Railways and was a strange
> concept for west. Now it is astonishing to know it being tried
elsewhere.

The notion only died out in the US with women's liberation. The nearest
train station to my home (Fairfield/Suisun) has a separate lady's
waiting room (no longer
marked as such, of course).
And separate 'women's cars' on trains were once common (they died out
around the turn of the century).
Indeed, I have a plan for a railway station in the south that had
four waiting rooms. White men, white women, colored men, and colored
women.

The madness of trying to divide people up is something I'll never
understand.

--
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From: Dr. M S M Saifullah <>

Subject: Re: Marklin Train Sets.

Date: 23 Jun 1999 00:56:25 -0500


> Rolex Lanolin at Bombay are the official dealers for Marklin in
>India. They have some stuff which they are selling at a discount just
now.
>But they do not have any starter sets in stock. Contact Mrs. Falguni
>Zaveri at <mailto:falguni@rolexlanolin.email or
>visit their site at www.rolexlanolin.com Dr. Ravi Joshi

Sorry folks for asking a stupid question. What is the Marklin Train? How
much do these train sets cost in India?

Regards
Saifullah

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Opinion poll

Date: 23 Jun 1999 02:00:16 -0500




Royston Ellis wrote:

> The opinion poll sounds a good idea especially as (rail) travel
writers
> like me will pick up bags of information by reading all the answers.
> Questions I'd suggest would be:
> Best retiring room

Mysore Jn has some really good old styled retiring rooms.

> Best station restaurant

I have heard that Ahmedabad is very good.

Apurva

From: hvc <>

Subject: OPINION POLL - My vote!

Date: 23 Jun 1999 02:05:23 -0500


Dear Poras and others,
I too think this is an
excellent
idea. Who is the best person to compile data and do formatting for the
questionaire? Can we have something like this on the website where the
visitors may name their choices?
Anyway for the present questions, my vote is:

1. Favorite steam class
Broad Gauge - WP
Metre Gauge - YP and P class
Narrow Gauge 2'6" - ZF and KC/F. Barsi Light Rly. 4-8-4 locos(B
class).
Narrow Gauge 2'0" - B class

2. Favourite Electric class
Broad gauge - WAG 9
Meter Gauge - YAM1

3. Favourite Diesel class
Broad Gauge - WDM4
Meter Gauge - YDM5
Narrow Gauge - none

4. Favourite trunk route(BG) : Delhi - Nagpur (best is between Gwalior
and
Nagpur)


5. Favourite non-trunk route(BG) : Vizag - Kirandul

6. Favourite trunk route(MG) : Jaipur - Purna, Lucknow - Agra Fort and
Madras - Quilon.

7. Favourite non-trunk route(MG) : Lumbdig -Badarpur(now under
conversion).

8. Favourite NG line : DHR of course.

9. Best train spotting and loco spotting stations

Baroda, Itarsi, Asansol, Ghaziabad, Vizag, Kharagpur, NJP, Lucknow,
Ratlam, Nagpur, Shoranur(in past), Chittorgarh(Mavli Jn.), Gwalior,
Ahemedabad. Many many more and not necessariliy in that order.

10. Best liked train
a) Long distance - Tamilnadu Express, Purushottam Express,Mangla
Express,

b) Medium distance - Kalka Mail, Frontier Mail, Dadar Amritsar Exp.,
Meenakshi Express. Coromandal Express, Madras Quilon Mail. Samta
Express.

c) Short distance - Prayagraj Express, Lucknow Mail, Gomti
Express,
Shane Punjab, Karnavati, former MG Vaigai Exp., former Brindavan
Express,
Jaiselmer Jodhpur passenger(both MG and BG), Barsi Light Railway
passengers(NG), Banglore Mysore passengers(MG)

11. Best retiring rooms - Kanniya Kumari, Barog,

Udaipur, Chittorgarh and Ratlam when they were steam.

12. Best station restaurant - Jodhpur, Ambala Cantt,

Please come forward and add more questions.

Harsh

From: hvc <>

Subject: Re: information

Date: 23 Jun 1999 02:45:02 -0500


I believe this dead body show is is more prominent in CR areas between
Itarsi- Igatpuri and on Nagpur/ Jabalpur side as well. Perhaps now
hounded
by the GRP these slick artists now mostly operate in dead night hours at
big
stations. Although I have seen `real deads' also on stations in a
similar
fashion(perhaps displayed by his enterprising partners to make a fast
buck),
I don't think the cremation money is any problem for any unclaimed body
on
the railway premises is swiftly cremated by the GRP.

Harsh


-----Original Message-----
From: Muhammed Khan <ashiane@erols.email
To: David Trotter <david@dtrotter.email
Cc: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: information


>Hi David:
>Women coaches was a speaility of the Indian Railways and was a strange
>concept for west. Now it is astonishing to know it being tried
elsewhere.
>Regarding the incident of the "dead body" on the Itarsi platform!!!
Many a
>times it is a con artist who plays on the sympathy of the public to
earn
>some money. I have come across such bodies suddenly come to live after
>sufficient money was collected. Once on my Inspection rounds on the
Railway,
>The RPF (Railway protection Force) guy proded a similar dead body on
the
>platform and the "Dead Body" suddenly came to life. It was the only
miracle
>I saw with my own eyes!!
>Hope it was not the same body which you saw. India is a land of many a
>color.
>Muhammed
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Trotter <david@dtrotter.email
>To: hvc <hvc@vsnl.email Indian Rail <irfca@cs.email
>Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 10:03 AM
>Subject: Re: information
>
>
>>Hi hvc;
>>Many thanks for your kind reply:
>>I would appreciate your and the "Gang" reaction to the following
points.
>>
>>1 Has anyone had experience of travelling on the roof of passenger
>coaches?
>>
>>2 Has there been a list of locomotive codes available in the past? I
would
>>find it of help to identify what type of loco lies behind the code
letters.
>>
>>3 Today on the BBC radio it was announced that the provision of women
only
>>coaches on English railways for late night trains is to be
investigated.
>An
>>example of the UK following the example of IR.
>>
>>4 Have we any Civil Engineers (Permanent Way) who subscribe to the
Club?
>>
>>5 Is deafness a problem for the crew of Diesel Locomotives? Having
been
>>lucky enough to have had a cab ride I was very conscious of the high
level
>>of decibels created by the almost continuous sounding of the horn. In
>>addition the high temperature in the cab in late March did not help
>matters.
>>It was great as an experience but I was glad to get back into the
coach
>>after about half an hour on the loco.
>>6 One of my memories on travelling through Itarsi was to find a
swathed
>body
>>on the platform with coins placed upon it. I gathered that a poor
person
>>had died and that his/her body would remain until enough money was
>collected
>>to pay for the cost of a funeral.
>>David T
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: hvc <champa@del3.email
>>To: David Trotter <david@dtrotter.email
<irfca@cs.email
>>Royston Ellis <royston@panlanka.email
>>Cc: Rodger Trotter <Rodger@TudorLodge.email
>>Sent: 16 June 1999 09:19
>>Subject: Re: information
>>
>>
>>> Dear David and Royston,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group and we look forward to hearing your travel
>>experiences
>>> in due course.
>>>
>>> >opted to travel First Class non A/C. My wish was to enjoy the
scenery
>>more
>>> >effectively through the barred windows rather than via the yellow
tinted
>>> >"portholes" in the A/C coaches. What I had not allowed for was the
lack
>>of
>>> >bedroll facilities and access to any food service. What should I
have
>>done
>>> >to ensure that I had a more comfortable journey? The coach was one
of
>>the
>>> >very early 1st class non air-conditioned Coupe with two berth
>>compartments
>>> >and was thus showing its age!. Back in 1990 the compartments were
also
>>non
>>> >air conditioned but four berth which meant that I had more
interesting
>>> >travelling companions.
>>>
>>> For 1st class coupe connoisseurs like you me and others, the bad
news is
>>> that
>>> they are on the go now the 3AC coaches having been given preference
ahead
>>of
>>> them. In fact the last 1st class coach was built by IR over 25 years
>back.
>>> Very few trains have these now although I have heard about the
possible
>>> revival of this class in future. When the 1st class was on a high,
you
>had
>>a
>>> coach attendant who could get you things from platform or elsewhere
for
a
>>> small `baksheesh' . But these days hardly ever a ticket collector
comes
>>into
>>> the coaches and to top it these are poorly maintained.
>>> The later standardised 1st class coaches had four four-berth coupes
and
>>two
>>> two-berth coupes although there were many other non-standard designs
as
>>well
>>> including a 1st/2nd class composite coach.
>>>
>>> I was interested to hear about the railway that you are building but
was
>>> intrigued to hear about the 5'3" gauge(please, Iam no expert).
>>> I will visit your website shortly and to answer your question, No,
we do
>>not
>>> have any private preservation lines in India so far. Though the
first
>>thing
>>> that I would guess is to save the rolling stock from butchers. We as
>>> `Friends of the National Railway Museum Society' are involved in
helping
>>the
>>> IR do that.
>>>
>>> For gauge conversion programme details, you can refer to IR yearbook
>>> published annually. I don't think anyone will venture to write a
book on
>>> this subject as it has turned out to be `not such a big deal' after
all.
>>>
>>> Harsh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From: hvc <>

Subject: Railway Movies.

Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:13:20 -0500


This might be a little late in the day but the following movies with railway themes are on today.
 
27 Down - Sony TV 15.30 Hrs
North by Northwest - TNT 21.00 Hrs.
 
Well, I'll be seeing the real thing from 9943 Ahmedabad Mail(MG) on my way to Ajmer.
 

From: hvc <>

Subject: Re: information

Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:30:07 -0500


I have plenty of experience of travelling on top of trains. That
includes
all gauges.

In my opinion it is safe as long as you(or your fellow passengers) know
the
way and the dangers enroute if any. Not recommended doing it alone or
with
other first timers.

You can try it on passenger trains(mg) between Delhi - Rewari joined by
hundreds of daily travellers. On branch lines in UP and Bihar. On some
MG
lines in Rajasthan.

Earlier stock of BG used to have ladder as the water filling arrangement
was
from the top. Now with electrification, side water filling arrangement
is
preferred. That make climbing on top of BG coaches difficult but not
impossible.

Harsh




-----Original Message-----
From: David Trotter <david@dtrotter.email
To: hvc <hvc@vsnl.email Indian Rail <irfca@cs.email
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: information


>Hi hvc;
>Many thanks for your kind reply:
>I would appreciate your and the "Gang" reaction to the following
points.
>
>1 Has anyone had experience of travelling on the roof of passenger
coaches?
>
>2 Has there been a list of locomotive codes available in the past? I
would
>find it of help to identify what type of loco lies behind the code
letters.
>
>3 Today on the BBC radio it was announced that the provision of women
only
>coaches on English railways for late night trains is to be
investigated.
An
>example of the UK following the example of IR.
>
>4 Have we any Civil Engineers (Permanent Way) who subscribe to the
Club?
>
>5 Is deafness a problem for the crew of Diesel Locomotives? Having
been
>lucky enough to have had a cab ride I was very conscious of the high
level
>of decibels created by the almost continuous sounding of the horn. In
>addition the high temperature in the cab in late March did not help
matters.
>It was great as an experience but I was glad to get back into the coach
>after about half an hour on the loco.
>6 One of my memories on travelling through Itarsi was to find a swathed
body
>on the platform with coins placed upon it. I gathered that a poor
person
>had died and that his/her body would remain until enough money was
collected
>to pay for the cost of a funeral.
>David T
>----- Original Message -----
>From: hvc <champa@del3.email
>To: David Trotter <david@dtrotter.email <irfca@cs.email
>Royston Ellis <royston@panlanka.email
>Cc: Rodger Trotter <Rodger@TudorLodge.email
>Sent: 16 June 1999 09:19
>Subject: Re: information
>
>
>> Dear David and Royston,
>>
>> Welcome to the group and we look forward to hearing your travel
>experiences
>> in due course.
>>
>> >opted to travel First Class non A/C. My wish was to enjoy the
scenery
>more
>> >effectively through the barred windows rather than via the yellow
tinted
>> >"portholes" in the A/C coaches. What I had not allowed for was the
lack
>of
>> >bedroll facilities and access to any food service. What should I
have
>done
>> >to ensure that I had a more comfortable journey? The coach was one
of
>the
>> >very early 1st class non air-conditioned Coupe with two berth
>compartments
>> >and was thus showing its age!. Back in 1990 the compartments were
also
>non
>> >air conditioned but four berth which meant that I had more
interesting
>> >travelling companions.
>>
>> For 1st class coupe connoisseurs like you me and others, the bad news
is
>> that
>> they are on the go now the 3AC coaches having been given preference
ahead
>of
>> them. In fact the last 1st class coach was built by IR over 25 years
back.
>> Very few trains have these now although I have heard about the
possible
>> revival of this class in future. When the 1st class was on a high,
you
had
>a
>> coach attendant who could get you things from platform or elsewhere
for a
>> small `baksheesh' . But these days hardly ever a ticket collector
comes
>into
>> the coaches and to top it these are poorly maintained.
>> The later standardised 1st class coaches had four four-berth coupes
and
>two
>> two-berth coupes although there were many other non-standard designs
as
>well
>> including a 1st/2nd class composite coach.
>>
>> I was interested to hear about the railway that you are building but
was
>> intrigued to hear about the 5'3" gauge(please, Iam no expert).
>> I will visit your website shortly and to answer your question, No, we
do
>not
>> have any private preservation lines in India so far. Though the
first
>thing
>> that I would guess is to save the rolling stock from butchers. We as
>> `Friends of the National Railway Museum Society' are involved in
helping
>the
>> IR do that.
>>
>> For gauge conversion programme details, you can refer to IR yearbook
>> published annually. I don't think anyone will venture to write a book
on
>> this subject as it has turned out to be `not such a big deal' after
all.
>>
>> Harsh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Fw: DHR

Date: 23 Jun 1999 08:44:04 -0500


A query from John Raby, regarding DHR.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Raby [mailto:jraby@gol.email
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:25 AM
To: Shanku Niyogi
Subject: Re: DHR


Shanku

Thanks

I have signed up for the IRFCA list and took a look at the web site.
Keep
up the good work.

By the way, someone is looking for up-to-date information on the
ex-Darjeling locos at the Tiphook Colliery? Does anyone on the list
have
any information?

John

'In Watermelon Sugar, the deeds were done and done again as my life is
done
in watermelon sugar. I'll tell you about it because I am here and you
are
distant.'
'In Watermelon Sugar,' Richard Brautigan,1968

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: OPINION POLL - My vote!

Date: 23 Jun 1999 08:53:41 -0500


If we agree on a set of questions, I'll put up a survey on the web
site...

Perhaps we need a survey to determine the survey questions? :)

-----Original Message-----
From: hvc [mailto:champa@del3.email
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:05 AM
To: poras p.saklatwalla ; irfca@cs.email
Subject: OPINION POLL - My vote!


Dear Poras and others,
I too think this is an
excellent
idea. Who is the best person to compile data and do formatting for the
questionaire? Can we have something like this on the website where the
visitors may name their choices?

From: Anne Ogborn <>

Subject: Re: information

Date: 23 Jun 1999 09:29:16 -0500


hvc wrote:
>
> I have plenty of experience of travelling on top of trains. That
includes
> all gauges.
>
<snip>
> You can try it on passenger trains(mg) between Delhi - Rewari joined
by
> hundreds of daily travellers. On branch lines in UP and Bihar. On some
MG
> lines in Rajasthan.
>

Question - I've lived in Delhi some, and have only once seen a person
atop a car,
that on a Delhi-Ahmedabad train. If hundreds use this form of transport
daily,
how is it that I haven't seen them?

--
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From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Indrayani Express

Date: 23 Jun 1999 10:11:11 -0500


Hello,

Three things:

1. The dc e.m.u.s in the Bombay area have three power cars.(9-car
formations, I do not know about the 12 car ones).

2. Maybe there is a motorman in the rear cab, but the Poona-Lonavla
locals are not required to climb any ghats: the route is relatively
level: the climb is very slight and gentle.

3.Poona-Lonavla locals were initially locomotive hauled. One rake was
moved to Poona in 1978 for trials. The most popular local English daily
in Poona, the Poona Herald (now Maharashtra Herald) gave a lot of
coverage to the arrival of the train, even published a photo (on brown
paper : ( (yes, some pages were brown!) I distinctly remember the paper
saying: the unit climbed the ghats without a banker.

Probably, that was because the train was running light, but weren't
there emu services between Bombay and Poona in the 1930s, till the
toilet rule came into being?
With the power, and hence thrust spread out over the train length, and
with only nine cars, I guess the m.us can easily manage without a
banker.

Best regards.

Shankar.

2.

hvc wrote:
>
> Sorry, but I meant passenger stock. I believe the last train to be
> convereted to air-brake was the Bombay-Pune passenger.
>
> BTW I don't think the EMUs climb the real ghats.
> Don't the Pune -Lonavala EMUs have a motorman in the rear cabin and in
that
> case I suppose it is as good as a banker. Do these EMUs have 2 or 3
power
> coaches? I cannot recall.
>
> Harsh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> To: hvc <hvc@vsnl.email
> Cc: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Indrayani Express
>
> >Many rakes like TK and BCX are still vaccum braked. Only light powers
and
> EMUs
> >(to work Pune - Lonavala suburban section) climb the ghats without a
> banker.
> >Even a single coach train (like a GM or inspection special) is
banked.
> >Most of the freight out of Pune are cement carrying BCN wagons.
> >
> >hvc wrote:
> >
> >> >There have been a couple of incidents where a climbing rake
parted
> >> coupling
> >> >and rolled back.
> >> >In one such incident the climbing freight rake did not have a
banker.
> The
> >> >driver of the lead loco got an erroneous reading of vacuum being
OK by a
> >> rag
> >> >(or a dead rat ?) in the brake pipe.
> >>
> >> Are there still any vaccum-brake-only and without banker trains
still
> >> running in the Bhore/ Thull ghats?
> >
> >

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: [Fwd: Railbus service

Date: 23 Jun 1999 10:12:58 -0500


Thanks Harsh, I guess you forgot to mark a copy to the IRFCA

Apurva

From: Raghavendra Rao <>

Subject: Re: Railbus service

Date: 23 Jun 1999 10:56:57 -0500


Hello Everyone,

I am a newbie to this group. General interest in trains & an interest
towards
model railroading brings me to this group. I have been following the
threads
with great interest.

I am impressed with the knowledge that many of us in the group have wrt
IR.
I should say that I hardly know 2 % of what you all know.

We used to stay in Porbandar Gujrat & used to do this annual trip to
Mysore
every year. Used to take us 3/4 days back in 1975/79 with changing the
trains
at least 5 times [Jetalsar/Rajkot, Ahmedabad, Bombay, Poona, Miraj &
Bangalore].

Regarding the railbus, I know that it was tried between Yelahanka &
Bangalore
sometime back. Once again I guess Ashok Leyland was involved. If I
remember
right the color of the coaches used to be yellow & green [I am straining
my
memory real hard]. It did not run for long. Anyone know about this or is
this
a "figment of my imagination" ;-)

rags

Raghavendra Rao

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hvc [SMTP:champa@del3.email
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:55 AM
> To: Apurva Bahadur
> Subject: Re: Railbus service
>
> Hello,
> BG rail buses have been in operation for quite some time
now.
> Even Merta Road - City is BG. I have travelled in both MG and BG
> railbuses.
> There are a large No. of MG railbuses in service on NER.
>
> All the railbuses I have seen work in both directions(i.e cabs at
either
> ends) so there is no need for turning. Some BG/ MG examples are two
coach
> also. These are made at Izzatnagar works.
> Engine is imported(SKD) from a firm whose name Iam forgetting and it
is
> marketed in India by Ashok Leyland.
>
> Harsh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 8:56 AM
> Subject: Railbus service
>
>
> >Gang !
> >
> >As per the local papers in Pune, the Jalamb Jn. - Khamgaon branch
line
> (12
> Kms) off
> >the Bhusawal - Nagpur section is getting a 76 seat BG railbus soon.
Right
> now a three
> >coach shuttle service serves this route. The present service is
> inefficient,
> >under-utilized and nobody buys any tickets, hence in a loss. I wonder
if
> the railbus
> >would have a bus conductor ? No further details of the BG railbus
> available, but if it
> >is something like the MG railbus (found in Merta City - Merta Road),
then
> there is an
> >inboard engine (Ashok Leyland ?) with a Hindustan Motors (Mysore)
> Hydraulic
> convertor/
> >may be a Kirloskar Pneumatics trans. I suspect that there is only one
cab
> at one end.
> >Wonder how this is turned ? Anyone seen the MG railbus ?
> >
> >Apurva
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Railbus service]

Date: 23 Jun 1999 11:08:10 -0500


Hello,
Imported engine marketed by Ashok Leyland?
That must be IVECO. (Italy).
Ashok Leyland trucks and buses have been called Ashok Leyland Iveco for
some while now.
Two car railbuses? Thats interesting. In that case, they are railcar
trains and not railbuses per se. Of course, thats only a matter of
semantics,and a trivial issue.
I read that recently a conventional mg 2nd class car has been converted
into a railbus by teh RDSO.
Notwithstanding that, are all the other railbuses you've ridden in four
wheeled or bogie stock? ALL the pics of railbuses I've seen so far are 4
wheeler.
Best regards.
Shankar


Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Thanks Harsh, I guess you forgot to mark a copy to the IRFCA
>
> Apurva
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Railbus service
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:25:08 +0530
> From: "hvc" <champa@del3.email
> Reply-To: "hvc" <hvc@vsnl.email
> To: "Apurva Bahadur" <iti@vsnl.email
>
> Hello,
> BG rail buses have been in operation for quite some time
now.
> Even Merta Road - City is BG. I have travelled in both MG and BG
railbuses.
> There are a large No. of MG railbuses in service on NER.
>
> All the railbuses I have seen work in both directions(i.e cabs at
either
> ends) so there is no need for turning. Some BG/ MG examples are two
coach
> also. These are made at Izzatnagar works.
> Engine is imported(SKD) from a firm whose name Iam forgetting and it
is
> marketed in India by Ashok Leyland.
>
> Harsh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 8:56 AM
> Subject: Railbus service
>
> >Gang !
> >
> >As per the local papers in Pune, the Jalamb Jn. - Khamgaon branch
line (12
> Kms) off
> >the Bhusawal - Nagpur section is getting a 76 seat BG railbus soon.
Right
> now a three
> >coach shuttle service serves this route. The present service is
> inefficient,
> >under-utilized and nobody buys any tickets, hence in a loss. I wonder
if
> the railbus
> >would have a bus conductor ? No further details of the BG railbus
> available, but if it
> >is something like the MG railbus (found in Merta City - Merta Road),
then
> there is an
> >inboard engine (Ashok Leyland ?) with a Hindustan Motors (Mysore)
Hydraulic
> convertor/
> >may be a Kirloskar Pneumatics trans. I suspect that there is only one
cab
> at one end.
> >Wonder how this is turned ? Anyone seen the MG railbus ?
> >
> >Apurva
> >
> >
> >
> >

From: Douglas K. Howard <>

Subject: Unsubscribe

Date: 23 Jun 1999 17:51:36 -0500


Hello,
Please remove my name from the Indian Railway website. Thank you.
Doug Howard
e-mail address: dkhoward@wave.email

From: Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath <>

Subject: Re: DHR exchange with Wales

Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:51:49 -0500


Dear Jayant,
The FR converted to air brake some years ago using -- so I am
informed -- Westinghouse gear displaced from old Melbourne suburban
electrics, and supplied via the Puffing Billy railway, a very successful
tourist line in the Dandenong ranges east of Melbourne.
Linda's couplings will indeed need changing, but that isn't a
major
worry.
I know of no definite timeframe. However, the ceremonial
"re-opening"
of the DHR with refurbished locos and rolling stock is scheduled for May
2000, and I had understood that Linda was meant to be there for that.
And Shanku, please forgive if I sounded critical. Wasn't
meant to
be!
Best wishes to all,
Ken Walker

-----Original Message-----
From: Jayant S <sank@telco.email
To: IR List <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, 23 June 1999 1:37
Subject: Re: DHR exchange with Wales


>"Dr. K.J. Walker & Mrs. M.E, Heath" wrote:
>
>> Please forgive the plug, but the exchange of "Linda" (an 0-4-2T
with
>> some advanced features) with the DHR has been mooted for the last 18
months.
>> It does look as if it will come off despite the considerable expense.
The
>> particular point of interest is the technical improvements, which
could
>> contribute to the mooted "super-B" for the DHR.
>
>Judging by the picture of "Linda", it will need
>a change of couplers to operate on the DHR.
>
>Is this loco air or vacuum braked ?
>
>Also, have they announced a timeframe for operations
>yet ? I would certainly visit Darjeeling to see
>"Linda" in operation there.
>
>--
>JS
>--
>

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