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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 04:34:01 -0500


Please stop treating the photography as such a big issue. Go ahead and
shoot as
you wish - just be prepared to get out of trouble when caught. Be
freindly and
casual - keep the camera out of view till you just need it. Chat with
people
including policemen - they are humans too !
One of the master performers in this art was J.A. Daboo who kept a dead
pan face
while he fished out the automatic camera from his pant pocket, clicked a
few
frames and then went back to being dead panned once again. He could
never
attract attention.

Apurva

Anand Krishnan wrote:

> Hi all,
> Jesus Christ !!!! the very thought of me being hassled by the
RPF
> after hearing your experiences send some jitters down my spine. The
sleeping
> WAM4 snap that i took was infact in the direct viscinity of some RPF
jawans
> on plat.1. But my cam stayed hidden in my hand. Infact i wanted to
have a
> word with the driver of 22264 WAP4, but unfortunately he was away it
seems
> according to some lineman near the loco. He even asked me if i wanted
to
> shoot, hoping to get something out of me perhaps. But then it was
amber for
> my train and i had to rush back. Next time i should try getting
permission
> before hand.
>
> Kind regards,
> Anand
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 04:34:01 -0500


Please stop treating the photography as such a big issue. Go ahead and
shoot as
you wish - just be prepared to get out of trouble when caught. Be
freindly and
casual - keep the camera out of view till you just need it. Chat with
people
including policemen - they are humans too !
One of the master performers in this art was J.A. Daboo who kept a dead
pan face
while he fished out the automatic camera from his pant pocket, clicked a
few
frames and then went back to being dead panned once again. He could
never
attract attention.

Apurva

Anand Krishnan wrote:

> Hi all,
> Jesus Christ !!!! the very thought of me being hassled by the
RPF
> after hearing your experiences send some jitters down my spine. The
sleeping
> WAM4 snap that i took was infact in the direct viscinity of some RPF
jawans
> on plat.1. But my cam stayed hidden in my hand. Infact i wanted to
have a
> word with the driver of 22264 WAP4, but unfortunately he was away it
seems
> according to some lineman near the loco. He even asked me if i wanted
to
> shoot, hoping to get something out of me perhaps. But then it was
amber for
> my train and i had to rush back. Next time i should try getting
permission
> before hand.
>
> Kind regards,
> Anand
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>

From: Simon Darvill <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 04:56:17 -0500


Personally, I never had any problems when taking photographs when in
India.
I agree that the platform that is away from the main station at New
Delhi is
probably the easiest place to take photos from (and also probably the
quietest place in Delhi) but I didn't get any hassle on the main
station.

I also agree that the south is a lot more relaxed (in every way
imagianable!). Most memorably, the signalman at Ramewarem invited me to
take
tea with him in the box and I got a fabulous shot of a YDM4 leaving with
a
mid-afternoon train from the window. I also managed to bunk (British
term
for going round a shed without official permisson) the shed at Coonor
and
take a couple of shots between the loco change on my train - I had to be
fleet of foot on that occasion!

Maybe because I'm European I didn't have too many problems but I did
heed
the warnings I read before hand about the problems of railway photgaphy.
I
have to say though the biggest hassle ever had with RPF was their
eagarness
to practise their English out on me. It does strike me that you can be
in a
bit of a catch 22 situation re. photography - the more furtively you do
it,
the more you look like the spy the authorities expect to be taking
photos of
railways!

On a different noe, can anybody offer me any adice on posting my
photographs
on the net. I have a scanner but don't have the first idea about how to
post
them somewhere!

Simon

From: Don Mills <>

Subject: Re: Steaming Movie.

Date: 18 Jun 1999 05:19:19 -0500


Indeed this movie is excellent.   the one major seen used where the little boy of the story has his hand taken off is great.   the engine used in that movie is the 4501 a Southern Steam engine.   A railroad from the Southern part of the United States from Washington all the way to Florida and over to Cincinnati and down to New Orleans.    This is a Murder mystery type movie that tells indirectly through fiction some of the early happenings in Alabama and Georgia.   Don in WV

-----Original Message-----
From: hvc < champa@del3.email <mailto:champa@del3.email
To: IRFCA < irfca@cs.email <mailto:irfca@cs.email
Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 4:13 AM
Subject: Steaming Movie.


Tommorrow i.e. Saturday, June 19th at 21.30 HRS IST, Star Movies(SE Asia beam) are showing an American movie called `Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe'. The movie is as good as it sounds and it has some excellent American steam in action.
 
Harsh

From: C.L.Zeni <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 05:34:47 -0500


Simon Darvill wrote:

> I also agree that the south is a lot more relaxed (in every way
> imagianable!). Most memorably, the signalman at Ramewarem invited me
to take
> tea with him in the box and I got a fabulous shot of a YDM4 leaving
with a
> mid-afternoon train from the window. I also managed to bunk (British
term
> for going round a shed without official permisson) the shed at Coonor
and
> take a couple of shots between the loco change on my train - I had to
be
> fleet of foot on that occasion!

Call it pure ignorance but during my trips to India I was never hassled
by the authorities when taking snaps at stations around Mumbai...lucky I
suppose and perhaps, like Simon, had to do with being a foreigner.

> Maybe because I'm European I didn't have too many problems but I did
heed
> the warnings I read before hand about the problems of railway
photgaphy. I
> have to say though the biggest hassle ever had with RPF was their
eagarness
> to practise their English out on me. It does strike me that you can be
in a
> bit of a catch 22 situation re. photography - the more furtively you
do it,
> the more you look like the spy the authorities expect to be taking
photos of
> railways!

The ability to bunk in the US varies wildly from place to place.
There's a major yard south of here that pretty much allows one to wander
at will as long as one stays on the paved roads and off of the track,
but another a mere 100 km away WILL escort you off the premises
immediately...

> On a different noe, can anybody offer me any adice on posting my
photographs
> on the net. I have a scanner but don't have the first idea about how
to post
> them somewhere!

Simon, if you don't have web space available, post them to the newsgroup
alt.binaries.pictures.rail, using your browser software. Email me off
list if you need more help.
--
Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com
<A HREF="http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html">http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html</A>

From the Old North State...Where the weak grow strong
And the strong grow great.

From: ranand <>

Subject: Re: Porus' MAS trip

Date: 18 Jun 1999 05:57:31 -0500


I know the answer to this question. From a trip on the line many years
ago, I
recall that there is a very
strange station siding somewhere between Wadi and Solapur which looks
like this.

|----------------------------------------|
\/
/\
------------------------------------------------------- (Main line)


The train enters the siding engine-first but must reverse to a point
before the
scissor crossover to leave the siding!

Anand

Internet: anand@watson.email
External tel: (914) 784 7054
Notes: Rangachari Anand/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
Tie-line: 863 7054

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 06:05:12 -0500


>
>
> On a different noe, can anybody offer me any adice on posting my
photographs
> on the net. I have a scanner but don't have the first idea about how
to post
> them somewhere!

Get a free website at www.tripod.com (11 Mb per email address). We would
like to
see that YDM pic.

Apurva

From: Royston Ellis <>

Subject: KR trip

Date: 18 Jun 1999 07:35:21 -0500


Gang:
Since signing up for irfca a week ago I have learned so much I never
dreamed of during the past 12 years I've been travelling occasionally as
a
passenger on Indian Railways. Thank you very much.

I'm interested in the KR trip but just when is that likely to happen?
I'm
not well up on Indian monsoon timing but monsoon pix are interesting.
Anyway, I won't bring a camera although in the past I've not had
problems.
However, when the Calcutta Metro's own staff photographer took a picture
of
Esplanade Station (at my request for my book), he was curtly told off by
a
passenger for not obeying regulations. So its not just the IRP.

Best, Royston

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:10:00 -0500


Simon Darvill wrote:
>
Hello,
Apurva, I think this one is for you.
After all, you do have one of the most formidable web pages amongst all
of us irfca members.
Consider this your first call. As I told you, I intend investing in a
scanner before long. No prizes for guessing who I'm going to turn to off
and on for tips and tricks.
Best regards.
Shankar




> On a different noe, can anybody offer me any adice on posting my
photographs
> on the net. I have a scanner but don't have the first idea about how
to post
> them somewhere!
>
> Simon

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:10:15 -0500


Hello,
You are probably right, Appu. As I said in the last line of my post,do
not be paranoid, take the lord's name and shoot.
Nontheless, as a veteran in this field, don't you think a few tips and
notes would be in order, especially for those who might come from abroad
and then innocently point a camera at something nice and then get
rattled? Imagine, they might never take another train pic in India
again!
But yes, I do agree that maybe this thread was beinning to get a teeny
weeny bit prolonged, and recommend that we end it at this point.
Best regards.
Shankar
Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Please stop treating the photography as such a big issue. Go ahead and
shoot as
> you wish - just be prepared to get out of trouble when caught. Be
freindly and
> casual - keep the camera out of view till you just need it. Chat with
people
> including policemen - they are humans too !
> One of the master performers in this art was J.A. Daboo who kept a
dead pan face
> while he fished out the automatic camera from his pant pocket, clicked
a few
> frames and then went back to being dead panned once again. He could
never
> attract attention.
>
> Apurva
>
> Anand Krishnan wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Jesus Christ !!!! the very thought of me being hassled by
the RPF
> > after hearing your experiences send some jitters down my spine. The
sleeping
> > WAM4 snap that i took was infact in the direct viscinity of some RPF
jawans
> > on plat.1. But my cam stayed hidden in my hand. Infact i wanted to
have a
> > word with the driver of 22264 WAP4, but unfortunately he was away it
seems
> > according to some lineman near the loco. He even asked me if i
wanted to
> > shoot, hoping to get something out of me perhaps. But then it was
amber for
> > my train and i had to rush back. Next time i should try getting
permission
> > before hand.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Anand
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:10:15 -0500


Hello,
You are probably right, Appu. As I said in the last line of my post,do
not be paranoid, take the lord's name and shoot.
Nontheless, as a veteran in this field, don't you think a few tips and
notes would be in order, especially for those who might come from abroad
and then innocently point a camera at something nice and then get
rattled? Imagine, they might never take another train pic in India
again!
But yes, I do agree that maybe this thread was beinning to get a teeny
weeny bit prolonged, and recommend that we end it at this point.
Best regards.
Shankar
Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Please stop treating the photography as such a big issue. Go ahead and
shoot as
> you wish - just be prepared to get out of trouble when caught. Be
freindly and
> casual - keep the camera out of view till you just need it. Chat with
people
> including policemen - they are humans too !
> One of the master performers in this art was J.A. Daboo who kept a
dead pan face
> while he fished out the automatic camera from his pant pocket, clicked
a few
> frames and then went back to being dead panned once again. He could
never
> attract attention.
>
> Apurva
>
> Anand Krishnan wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Jesus Christ !!!! the very thought of me being hassled by
the RPF
> > after hearing your experiences send some jitters down my spine. The
sleeping
> > WAM4 snap that i took was infact in the direct viscinity of some RPF
jawans
> > on plat.1. But my cam stayed hidden in my hand. Infact i wanted to
have a
> > word with the driver of 22264 WAP4, but unfortunately he was away it
seems
> > according to some lineman near the loco. He even asked me if i
wanted to
> > shoot, hoping to get something out of me perhaps. But then it was
amber for
> > my train and i had to rush back. Next time i should try getting
permission
> > before hand.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Anand
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: High-speed coaches from RCF et al.

Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:10:22 -0500


Dr. M S M Saifullah wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I had read a few years ago that RCF, Kapurthala is going to produce
> high-speed coaches. There were also some pictures shown. I wonder what
> happened to that project? Any ideas?
>
> As far as I remember the coaches were of aluminium body with some
> corrugated structure on top and bottom of the windows.

I THINK SUCH CARS ARE NOW BEING USED ON THE SWARNA SHATABDI EXPRESS
BETWEEN NEW DELHI AND AMRITSAR.
ABOUT FURTHER ADDITIONS, I DO NOT KNOW.

>
> Also does DLW or CLW have wind-tunnel testing machines for checking
the
> aerodynamics? As far as DLW is concerned, I truly doubt. They produce
some
> of the most non-aerodynamic and unaesthetic locos of the world (but
great
> work horses!!).

I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE DLW AND CLW, BUT THE IR'S PREMIER R & D
INSTITUTION, THE RDSO (RESEARCH,DESIGNS AND STANDARDS ORGN) DEFINITELY
HAS FACILITIES FOR WIND TUNNEL TESTING. I HAVE READ AT LEAST ONCE A
REPORT IN AN OLD ISSUE OF THE IR YEARBOOK THAT SUCH AND SUCH MODEL HAS
CLEARED THE WIND TUNNEL TESTS, AND PRODUCTION OF THE PROTOTYPE WILL BE
TAKEN UP VERY SOON.

wHICH BRINGS US TO A FASCINATING QUESTION. DO ALL THE RAILWAY PRODUCTION
UNITS ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT R & D FACILITIES, OR DOES IT ALL
HAVE TO BE CHANELLED OR CENTRALIZED THROUGH THE RDSO?

CLW may have one or may ask some institute like IISc,
> Bangalore or ADA for their wind-tunnel tests.

NO, THE RDSO, LUCKNOW, DOES IT FOR THEM.I THINK.


WAP locos are slightly better
> than WAM or WAG locos as far as aerodynamics are concerned.
>
> In Japan, wind-tunnel testing is carried out on the cars and I am
pretty
> sure the trains too...

WELL DR. SIFULLAH, LIKE IT OR NOT,THE WDM/2 DESIGN IS BASED ON THE US
BUILT 'CENTURY' SERIES OF DIESELS, IN FACT THE EARLIEST UNITS CAME FROM
THE US EITHER IN FULLY BUILT FORM OR IN CKD CONDITION.
SAME FOR THE WAM/WAG SERIES: THEY ARE ALL BASED ON OLD FRENCH DESIGNS:IN
FACT THE BODYWORK FOLLOWS THE SAME PROFILE AS THE EARLY FRENCH BUILDS
(READ WAG/1 AND WAM/1).
AS SUCH, THE DESIGNS OF THE CURRENT BREED OF WDM//WAG/WAM ENGINES ARE AS
GOOD OR AS BAD AS THE ORIGINAL US/FRENCH DESIGNS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE THE INTERNAL MACHINERY IS IMPROVED EVER SO OFTEN,
(THE WDM, WAG AND WAM BREED HAVE, OVER THE YEARS, BEEN IMPROVED WELL
BEYOND THEIR ORIGINAL CAPACITY) EXTERNAL BODY APPEARANCE WAS NEVER AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND THESE ENGINES HAVE RETAINED THE SAME LOOK OVER THE
PAST FOUR DECADES.

THE YAM/1, WAG/1 AND WAM/1 HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TAD BETTER AIR SMOOTHED.

ONE THING I WILL AGREE WITH YOU HOWEVER IS TEH LACK OF AESTHETICS WITH
IR DESIGNERS, A SUBJECT THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED OFF AND ON IN THIS
FORUM. ALTHOUGH THE PRESENT DMUS HAVE A MORE PLEASING PROFILE,LOOK AT
THE EARLIER ONES CONVERTED FROM ORDINARY SECOND CLASS CARS. GAS-CUT
PORTHOLE WINDOWS FOR THE WINDSHIELD AND ALL.
EVEN THE WAP/1 AND 3 ARE A HALF HEARTED ATTEMPT AT STREAMLINING.AIR
SMOOTHED OK, BUT NOT REALLY STREAMLINED, OR AERODYNAMIC, LIKE THE TGV OR
THE BULLET TRAIN, OR EVEN BRITAIN'S HST.
WITH THE WAP/1,3 & 4, IMPEDIMENTS TO TRUE STREAMLINING ARE THE FLASHER
AND HORNS ON THE ROOFTOP, THE BOX HOUSING THE HEADLIGHT AND TAP GEAR
ASSEMBLY AND THE BUFFERS/CBC.ALL THESE SHOULD IDEALLY HAVE BEEN
RECESSED, IF TRUE STREAMLINING IS TO BE ACHIEVED.
ANYWAY, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER,SO---
BEST REGARDS.
SHANKAR


>
> Regards
> Saifullah

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Bhore ghat pics

Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:10:30 -0500


Hello,
A very interesting site, Apurva. Brought back several pleasant memories.
Especially of college days, when every time we used to have 2-3 days at
a stretch, we used to go to Bombay to be with my uncle.
Nice to see that there is still a lot of green left. Thanks to the
ghats, Poona and Bombay are still two separate and distinct entities.
After Khandala, towards Poona, there is hardly any ghat left, thanks to
excessive building!
Some nerve, travelling by the BFR. You are lucky, you wife Shyama, is
all game when you go trainspotting. My wife, Shyamala, cannot stand
trains or the sheer absurdity of trainspotting.(thats what she says!)

I was most impressed by your train shot from atop the catch siding:that
pic presently graces my desktop.

The ghats are most interesting just after the monsoons.WOnder how safe
it is though, the rocks are slippery, and there must be lots of snakes
slithering around!

Thanks for a visual feast, and keep them coming!

Best regards.
Shankar



Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Gang !
>
> Please check out some pictures of Bhore ghat on the Mumbai - Pune line
on my
> site. Let
> me know pronto if a link does not work.
> Go to:
> <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
> and click on the last two links.
>
> Apurva

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: A Handful of snaps !!

Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:10:37 -0500


Hello
Very interesting. It now appears that WAP/4s are rapidly taking over
WAM/4 and WAP/1 duties.
I'm glad the sixteen points were of some use to you.As Appu pointed out,
some of the snaps do overlap the writing/captions.
I always look forward to large pics with glee, as I instantly bookmark
the site,The large pics make terrific desktops, and i keep changing the
engine/train on my desktop ever so often.
Try and reduce the size a teeny weeny bit, so that they could
comfortable fit the average desktop.
Best regards, and do keep em coming.
Shankar

Anand Krishnan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Just managed to put up a few of my snaps that i took during my
recent
> trip to Chennai. Comments/criticisms are welcome. The 16 commandments
for
> taking snaps that was put up in the list a couple of days back was
followed
> to a great extent. You could see it for urself at
> <A HREF="http://members.xoom.com/railweb/index.htm">http://members.xoom.com/railweb/index.htm</A>
>
> Kind regards,
> Anand
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>

From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:32:51 -0500


Hi all,
Jesus Christ !!!! the very thought of me being hassled by the
RPF
after hearing your experiences send some jitters down my spine. The
sleeping
WAM4 snap that i took was infact in the direct viscinity of some RPF
jawans
on plat.1. But my cam stayed hidden in my hand. Infact i wanted to have
a
word with the driver of 22264 WAP4, but unfortunately he was away it
seems
according to some lineman near the loco. He even asked me if i wanted to

shoot, hoping to get something out of me perhaps. But then it was amber
for
my train and i had to rush back. Next time i should try getting
permission
before hand.

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: Re: Photography -- and idiot restrictions

Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:32:51 -0500


Hi all,
Jesus Christ !!!! the very thought of me being hassled by the
RPF
after hearing your experiences send some jitters down my spine. The
sleeping
WAM4 snap that i took was infact in the direct viscinity of some RPF
jawans
on plat.1. But my cam stayed hidden in my hand. Infact i wanted to have
a
word with the driver of 22264 WAP4, but unfortunately he was away it
seems
according to some lineman near the loco. He even asked me if i wanted to

shoot, hoping to get something out of me perhaps. But then it was amber
for
my train and i had to rush back. Next time i should try getting
permission
before hand.

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: Dr. Shirish Yande <>

Subject: Re: Great Pix of Bhor Ghats

Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:09:06 -0500




Anand Krishnan wrote:

> Dear Dr.Shirish,
> This is in appreciation for the wonderful snaps that
you had
> taken on the Bhor ghats. I am, Anand, a member of the IRFCA,and crazy
about
> anything on railways. I got this address from Apurva just to convey my
> appreciation. Please keep more such snaps coming Sir, we will be too
happy
> to see them.
>
> Kind regards,
> Anand
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A>

Dear Anand.

I am glad you liked those pictures. I have hundreds of such pics on
various
locations on IR. Apporva does the job of uploading them on the web. I
love
snapping Railways.

I am also a member of IRFCA although I do not correspond very regularly.

I shall keep uploading more pitures themewise in the future. Would you
like a
Steam Treat next time?

Shirish Yande

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: KR trip

Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:28:17 -0500


Royston,

In case you are still interested in getting photos of the Calcutta Metro
(albeit ones that are more or less outdoors), there's a location I found
that works pretty well. Near Dum Dum station on the Sealdah commuter
line,
the metro emerges from the ground, and is quite plainly visible from
nearby
streets/houses, where you can legally take pictures.

-----Original Message-----
From: Royston Ellis [mailto:royston@pan.email
Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 7:35 AM
To: irfca@cs.email
Subject: KR trip


Gang:
Since signing up for irfca a week ago I have learned so much I never
dreamed of during the past 12 years I've been travelling occasionally as
a
passenger on Indian Railways. Thank you very much.

I'm interested in the KR trip but just when is that likely to happen?
I'm
not well up on Indian monsoon timing but monsoon pix are interesting.
Anyway, I won't bring a camera although in the past I've not had
problems.
However, when the Calcutta Metro's own staff photographer took a picture
of
Esplanade Station (at my request for my book), he was curtly told off by
a
passenger for not obeying regulations. So its not just the IRP.

Best, Royston

From: Karthik Giddu <>

Subject: Re: KR trip

Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:44:49 -0500


Hi Royston,
Though many of the gang members are interested, it would be only after
monsoons, in the month of Oct. It rains very heavily in Konkan region,
hence advisible to go after monsoons. There is frequent landslides,
holding
up trains indefinitely.

Also, it would be a huge co-ordination job for bringing together every
member to one location at one time. Hope we start thinking about the
itenery now itself.!!!!!

Eagerly awating the trip to KR.

Bye,
Karthik


>I'm interested in the KR trip but just when is that likely to happen?
I'm
>not well up on Indian monsoon timing but monsoon pix are interesting.
>Anyway, I won't bring a camera although in the past I've not had
problems.
>However, when the Calcutta Metro's own staff photographer took a
picture of
>Esplanade Station (at my request for my book), he was curtly told off
by a
>passenger for not obeying regulations. So its not just the IRP.
>
>Best, Royston
>
>
>
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/gidduk/">http://members.tripod.com/gidduk/</A>
+91-22-8014919

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Webpage on Bhusawal Jn.

Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:53:01 -0500


Gang !

Check out the new Bhusawal Jn webpage.
Go to: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/">http://members.tripod.com/ApuB/</A>
and click on the Bhusawal link right at the end.
Some steam pics inside !

Apurva

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