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From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: Subway in Calcutta

Date: 12 Apr 1999 11:19:15 -0500


By the way, a couple of notes concerning the Calcutta Metro:

- the Metro has had several problems of late, mainly due to maintenance
problems with cars, which limit their top speed.
- regarding ticketing, the policy is to scan your ticket through a
turnstile
reader when entering AND exiting the platform. This is apparently to
prevent
the zone cheaters, although if you lose your ticket en route, it can be
quite a hassle.
- photography of the metro is not permitted - however, I've discovered
that
there is a stretch near Dum Dum station, where the metro travels above
ground, that is in clear view from the public.

Also, as Apurva mentioned, the tram is indeed a treat to ride, although
its
efficiency is severely hampered by the fact that few, if any, motorists
respect its right-of-way.

-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur [mailto:iti@vsnl.email
Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 8:36 AM
To: Don Mills
Cc: irfca@cs.email
Subject: Re: Subway in Calcutta





> Calcutta, India is often regarded as a "hell hole" of poverty,
> overcrowding,lawlessness, and filth. But underneath is another
world, a
> 14-year old subway that extends 10 miles. There are no problems with
> homeless, liter, or crime. but now escalators and ticket machines
need
> repairs and some cars require parts. The Metro is beyond the income
of
most
> residents costing between 7cents and 17cents to travel. the two worst
> problems seem to be riders who buy lesser zone tickets and then ride
into
> another zone. another problem is the result of spitting "betel
juice".
>
> My questions are:
>
> Is this article accurate; and if so, can you improve on it in any way?
and
> what is "betel juice" some form of tobacco or fruit?
> I would like to use it if in next months newsletter.
>

Don,

Grime, filth, crime, poverty and squalor can be found in any Indian
city.
India is
the 33rd poorest nation in the world. Calcutta is the only Indian city
to
have a metro
railway. I have travelled on it a couple of times and I am very
impressed.
The tickets
(if I remember correctly) are Rs 2 or Rs. 3.50 per ride. Now that is
cheap.
But the
surface bus transport is even cheaper (0.35 paise for average distance)
!
Bus ticket
prices such as Rs.1 is a major ride.
Calcutta also has a divine tram system with equally ridiculous fare
structure. As
compared to the bus and the tram the subway is expensive. It is used by
the
middle
class and the office going crowd. It covers distances in great speed and
comfort which
would take hours in a jam packed surface traffic.
The metro is fast, clean and efficient. There is a sense of pride
amongst
the users to
see that the metro and its stations are not misused. The premises and
the
metro itself
is a hawker and beggar free zone. In the blazing heat of the day the
station
and the
metro cars themselves are at a much lower temperature thanks to a system
of
blowers.
But the Metro runs only a length of Calcutta while the bus (and the
trams to
some
extent) go cross routes as well.
I live next to THE metro of India, Mumbai (Bombay) and occasionally go
to
Calcutta as
well. Given a choice I would rate Cal as vastly superior to Mumbai.
In Cal I find real culture and a strong sense of good civic behaviour.
The
general
public is much simpler and the level of crime is lower than than in
Mumbai.
Let me put
it this way, the slower pace of 'reforms' and 'progress' means that
Calcutta
remains
at a gentler level than Mumbai. Recently I find that Calcutta is
actually
cleaner than
Mumbai.
Calcutta has great street level food !
The 'paan' is betel leaf stuffed with tobacco extract and other stuff.
People all
over India eat (more like chew) this 'past time'. It is similar to
smoking a
cigarette
or chewing gum. However a paan chewer may spit out the liquid residue
from
time to
time. This leads to a red stain on the walls and I suspect the large
volumes
of 'betel
juice' reduces conductivity between the third rail conductor and the
brush
of the
cars. I am sure ticketless travel or travelling with a wrong or
underpaid
ticket is a
problem on the Calcutta Metro but on the whole I found the metro
operation
quite
satisfactory. All the equipment and technology is Indian so making
replacement parts
or finding spares would not be such a problem. However as the equipment
is
non
standard, it may take some time procuring the material.


Apurva

From: Dr. S. Parthasarathy <>

Subject: Engines from GM

Date: 12 Apr 1999 23:24:30 -0500


From THE HINDU of 13 April 1999


***QUOTE

HUBLI, April. 12.

The first batch of high-speed diesel railway engines
imported from General Motors of the U.S. is expected here by Thursday. A
diesel loco
shed that can have 50 such engines in the first
instance is almost ready.

According to information reaching here, the engines,
which landed by ship in Calcutta, have already reached Vijayawada from
where
they will be brought via Secunderabad and Guntakal.
Twelve diesel engines will be brought in four batches to Hubli.

A senior executive of General Motors, Mr. Marks
Anderson, was present in Calcutta (assisted by a team of officials sent
from Hubli) to
supervise the landing of the engines and getting
clearance. Mr. Anderson, is expected to reach here by Tuesday to oversee
the assemby
of the engines.

``In Hubli, we are ready to receive the engines" a
senior official of the Diesel Loco Shed told The Hindu here today.

The Rs.20-crore diesel loco shed, the construction
of which started 10 months ago, is almost ready. The work on the shed
and the
buildings is almost complete. The Indian Oil
Corporation has made arrangements to stock different kinds of oil
required for it on the site. A
special blending of oil required for the engines,
has already been made by the IOC and one variety of imported oil has
been received.

Four maintenance teams, including one from Siemens,
are expected here. The training for the drivers is expected to start
next Saturday,
according to indications available.

The Railway Ministry has approved a plan for setting
up a Rs.5- crore training centre for handling imported engines on a
permanent basis
and the first installment of the amount has also
been released.

The diesel engines will be mainly used for hauling
goods traffic in the sector and some are expected to be earmarked for
passenger traffic.


***UNQUOTE

From: Sunil Bajpai <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes [Was Re: codes for Indian rail]

Date: 13 Apr 1999 00:59:07 -0500


It is likely that the station code for Ajmer was assigned as AII because
of
an easy Morse code. But these codes were probably selected more to be
easy
to remember and associate with the station name.

Consider:

1. BA for Bandra v/s BCT for Mumbai Central (Bombay Central)
2. DE for old Delhi (metre gauge) station v/s DLI or NDLS for Delhi
or New Delhi, respectively
3. MCST (Mumbai Chatrapatti Shivaji Terminus, new name )
v/s BBVT (Bombay Victoria Terminus, old name)

All station codes must be unique, which means over 7000 of them!
Obviously
the nearest sounding and easiest to transmit may not always be
available.
(26X26X26 = 17576 only! Yeah the codes may be 4 letters too, but I'm
assuming that at least the first letter must be the same as in the
actual
name of the station.)

Station codes were (are) not the only codes used on IR. There are codes
for:

1. offices (e.g. NDRB for Railway Board),
2. rolling stock (BTPN, WGSCNY, WDM2), and
3. short phrases commonly used in telegrams (FENERY) that you'd never
guess!

All this is much like data transmission today:

1. Coding and decoding to conserve bandwidth
2. Unique and easy to remember names, e.g. email ID's
3. Protocols, e.g. the exact sequence in which certain
items must be transmitted
3. An OSI kind of model, e.g. coding and decoding of
communication at the layer of the office clerks!


Sunil Bajpai

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes [Was Re: codes for Indian rail]

Date: 13 Apr 1999 02:00:14 -0500


Not likely. If that was the case then

AEE .- . .

or even

AME .- -- .

are shorter than

AII .- .. ..

Not everything follows logic, certainly not in India.

Why else would

CNB be Cawnpore

ADI be Ahmedabad

BNC be Bangalore Cantt.

ET be Itarsi

MAQ be Mangalore

PNBE be Patna Junction

UBL be Hubli

UDZ be Udaipur


Harsh

From: Sunil Bajpai <>

Subject: Re: Subway in Calcutta

Date: 13 Apr 1999 02:23:41 -0500


Apurva wrote:

>The tickets
>(if I remember correctly) are Rs 2 or Rs. 3.50 per ride. Now that is
cheap.
But the
>surface bus transport is even cheaper (0.35 paise for average distance)
!
Bus ticket
>prices such as Rs.1 is a major ride.


Compare that with the cost of:

a local call (within the same telephone exchange): Rs 2.
a simple meal at Macdonald's: Approx. Rs 75 (?)

Sunil Bajpai

From: Sunil Bajpai <>

Subject: Re: WDP 1 locomotive

Date: 13 Apr 1999 02:49:24 -0500


(: Thanks to Don, Milind and vdate for the welcome! :)

Apurva mentioned the WDP1 bogie. May I add some information about it?

It is a BoBo design, which means two bogies, two axles per bogie, both
powered. The reason why WDP1 is BoBo, i.e. with only 4 axles is that it
has
a 12-cylinder power-pack, which is lighter and can be accommodated on
such a
vehicle without exceeding the maximum permissible load on the axle.

The other locomotives are 16-cylinder versions and need six axles to
support
their weight.

Sunil

From: Joydeep Dutta <>

Subject: Re: WDP 1 locomotive

Date: 13 Apr 1999 03:22:33 -0500


Dear Fellow Enthusiats
Let me tell you that I had visited the TKD shed very recently and I
ahd foun that they are having a lot of problems with the WDP1. The Pre
fabricated Bo-Bo wheel st is developing cracks annd the damper
provided between tha chasis and the bogie frame is not functioning
properly and the chasis seems to be sagging.
All the shad staff believes that WDM2 is the greatest of all. They
have no problem with the WDM2C since that has WDM2 wheel set


>From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
>To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
>Subject: WDP 1 locomotive
>Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:29:37 +0530
>
>Gang !
>
>The creativity and the aesthetic sense at DLW must have been at its
lowest when they
>designed the WDP 1. A picture of this can be seen on Shanku's
website.
>
>The gallery format is at
><A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images.html">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images.html</A>.
>
>The single page list of all images is at
><A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images_all.html">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images_all.html</A>
>
>Forget the 'balding forehead short hood, that is only a styling
feature. The bogie
>seems to be in parts. Actually this is a BB locomotive with the
middle wheel and motor
>removed. The bogies the high adhesion type having 'even spaces'
found on the newer
>locomotives including the WCAM 3s and the WDG 2s. But the removal of
the middle wheel
>makes it seem like four separate axles. This locomotive was designed
for high speed
>intercity type trains which need rapid acceleration and a fast
cruising speed. All the
>locos seem to be limited to the Tughlakabad (TKD) shed near New Delhi
and used for the
>traffic to Punjab and Saharanpur side.
>The DLW has redeemed themselves of past design follies by greatly
styled WDP 2 and the
>newer WDG 2s (which now sport a 'half a hexagon' section of the
hoods). The deep throb
>of the WDG 2s is to be heard to be believed.
>
>
>Apurva
>
>
>


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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Engines from GM

Date: 13 Apr 1999 04:05:36 -0500


Partha and gang !

I was almost certain that these locos were due to land at Mumbai any day
now. Even the
Mumbai division staff had heard of the locos and had promised to let us
know when
these locos had come to the docks. How strange that the WDG 4 land at
Calcutta. Where
will these locos be used in strength ? Hospet/ Bellary - Vasco iron ore
(one way) -
coal/ steel/ petroleum (return) route ?
Since the Hubli division has a small posting at Pune (to run Pune -
Miraj - Kolhapur
trains), I am sure more details would be available soon. Maybe a quick
trip to Hubli
would lead to much news.

Apurva

"Dr. S. Parthasarathy" wrote:

> >From THE HINDU of 13 April 1999
>
> ***QUOTE
>
> HUBLI, April. 12.
>
> The first batch of high-speed diesel railway
engines
> imported from General Motors of the U.S. is expected here by Thursday.
A
> diesel loco
> shed that can have 50 such engines in the first
> instance is almost ready.
>
>

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes [Was Re: codes for Indian rail]

Date: 13 Apr 1999 04:13:18 -0500


> 1. BA for Bandra v/s BCT for Mumbai Central (Bombay Central)

I think Bandra is BNDT - Viraf/ Sarosh/ Shriniwas please confirm.

>
> 2. DE for old Delhi (metre gauge) station

Is it DE or is it DEE ?

> v/s DLI or NDLS for Delhi
> or New Delhi, respectively
> 3. MCST (Mumbai Chatrapatti Shivaji Terminus, new name )
> v/s BBVT (Bombay Victoria Terminus, old name)

The BBVT is now CSTM not MCST.

>
> All station codes must be unique, which means over 7000 of them!
Obviously
> the nearest sounding and easiest to transmit may not always be
available.
> (26X26X26 = 17576 only! Yeah the codes may be 4 letters too, but I'm
> assuming that at least the first letter must be the same as in the
actual
> name of the station.)

Do you know any single letter codes, I know only G = Gondia.
Have you any explanation for HX = Cuduppah on the Guntakal - Renigunta
route ?
Cuduppah is known by that name, unlike Bezwada etc which may explain BZA
= Vijaywada.

> 3. short phrases commonly used in telegrams (FENERY) that you'd never
guess!

I give up, what is FENERY ?


Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: WDP 1 locomotive

Date: 13 Apr 1999 04:20:45 -0500


What else did you see in the TKD shed. Maybe a small note on the details
would satisfy
our curiosity. After all TKD is the premier diesel shed in the country
(? or is it
Golden Rock ?)

Apurva

Joydeep Dutta wrote:

> Dear Fellow Enthusiats
> Let me tell you that I had visited the TKD shed very recently and I
> ahd foun that they are having a lot of problems with the WDP1. The Pre
> fabricated Bo-Bo wheel st is developing cracks annd the damper
> provided between tha chasis and the bogie frame is not functioning
> properly and the chasis seems to be sagging.
> All the shad staff believes that WDM2 is the greatest of all. They
> have no problem with the WDM2C since that has WDM2 wheel set
>
> >From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> >To: IRFCA <irfca@cs.email
> >Subject: WDP 1 locomotive
> >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:29:37 +0530
> >
> >Gang !
> >
> >The creativity and the aesthetic sense at DLW must have been at its
> lowest when they
> >designed the WDP 1. A picture of this can be seen on Shanku's
> website.
> >
> >The gallery format is at
> ><A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images.html">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images.html</A>.
> >
> >The single page list of all images is at
> ><A HREF="http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images_all.html">http://threshold.simplenet.com/india99/images_all.html</A>
> >
> >Forget the 'balding forehead short hood, that is only a styling
> feature. The bogie
> >seems to be in parts. Actually this is a BB locomotive with the
> middle wheel and motor
> >removed. The bogies the high adhesion type having 'even spaces'
> found on the newer
> >locomotives including the WCAM 3s and the WDG 2s. But the removal of
> the middle wheel
> >makes it seem like four separate axles. This locomotive was designed
> for high speed
> >intercity type trains which need rapid acceleration and a fast
> cruising speed. All the
> >locos seem to be limited to the Tughlakabad (TKD) shed near New Delhi
> and used for the
> >traffic to Punjab and Saharanpur side.
> >The DLW has redeemed themselves of past design follies by greatly
> styled WDP 2 and the
> >newer WDG 2s (which now sport a 'half a hexagon' section of the
> hoods). The deep throb
> >of the WDG 2s is to be heard to be believed.
> >
> >
> >Apurva
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: C.L.Zeni <>

Subject: Re: Subway in Calcutta

Date: 13 Apr 1999 04:48:36 -0500


Sunil Bajpai wrote:
>
> Apurva wrote:
>
> >The tickets
> >(if I remember correctly) are Rs 2 or Rs. 3.50 per ride. Now that is
cheap.
> But the
> >surface bus transport is even cheaper (0.35 paise for average
distance) !
> Bus ticket
> >prices such as Rs.1 is a major ride.
>
> Compare that with the cost of:
>
> a local call (within the same telephone exchange): Rs 2.
> a simple meal at Macdonald's: Approx. Rs 75 (?)

I was so sorry to see McDonald's open in India...it gives America such a
bad face :) as the food is typically overcooked and underseasoned, and
allowed to "age" under the heating lamps for too long...bleah.
--
Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com

<A HREF="http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html">http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html</A>

Psychiatrists say that 1 of 4 people is mentally ill.
Check three friends. If they're okay, you're it.

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: Subway in Calcutta

Date: 13 Apr 1999 06:28:07 -0500


I, too, am curious about the popularity of McDonalds in India. They
have made no attempt whatsoever to cater to vegetarians here in the US.
I won't be surprised if they have not studied Indian conditions and
tastes properly. In any case, let's stick to rail discussions and leave
personal opinions about inter-country operations out of this group.

Vijay

>-----Original Message-----
>From: C.L.Zeni [SMTP:clzeni@mindspring.email
>Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 7:49 AM
>To: Sunil Bajpai
>Cc: irfca@cs.email
>Subject: Re: Subway in Calcutta
>
>Sunil Bajpai wrote:
>>
>> Apurva wrote:
>>
>> >The tickets
>> >(if I remember correctly) are Rs 2 or Rs. 3.50 per ride. Now that is
>>cheap.
>> But the
>> >surface bus transport is even cheaper (0.35 paise for average
distance) !
>> Bus ticket
>> >prices such as Rs.1 is a major ride.
>>
>> Compare that with the cost of:
>>
>> a local call (within the same telephone exchange): Rs 2.
>> a simple meal at Macdonald's: Approx. Rs 75 (?)
>
>I was so sorry to see McDonald's open in India...it gives America such
a
>bad face :) as the food is typically overcooked and underseasoned, and
>allowed to "age" under the heating lamps for too long...bleah.
>--
> Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com
>
> <A HREF="http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html">http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html</A>
>
> Psychiatrists say that 1 of 4 people is mentally ill.
> Check three friends. If they're okay, you're it.

From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes [Was Re: codes for Indian rail]

Date: 13 Apr 1999 07:57:13 -0500


Sunil Bajpai wrote:

> 2. DE for old Delhi (metre gauge) station v/s DLI or NDLS for Delhi
> or New Delhi, respectively

One thing that I found interesting was the while DLI was in the Delhi
Division, DE was in Bikaner Division. Even now (as recently as 1997),
apparently the MG converted to BG line in DEE continued to be part of
Bikaner Division. Of course if this has changed recently, I am sure
someone will correct me.

> 3. short phrases commonly used in telegrams (FENERY) that you'd never
guess!

I remember (if my memory serves me right from way bakc in the 60s) that
in Loharu Jn. they used the telegram something like "KIMBAM" in response
to a reservation request to indicate that the request was waitlisted,
and "KASKAM" to indicate that the reservation request had succeeded.


Jishnu.

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: WAG 9 SIGHTED AT VALSAD was motive power in the Mumbai div

Date: 13 Apr 1999 08:36:11 -0500


Hello,

I don't doubt your integrity as a trainspotter but there is not even 1
in
million chance for a WAG9 to go to Bulsar of all the places. Talking of
Western Rly. routes these locos don't even go to TKD(yes but they do
take
the coal trains to Badarpur TPS at Delhi)

WAG9s are restricted to the Delhi-Howrah trunk route and in addition go
north upto Ludhiana. I made sure about this before sending this mail.
However if you can give me the No. of the loco and its livery and wheel
arrangement, I can quickly make a double check.

Contrary to the popular belief, all the WAG9s are not based at Ghaziabad
but
at Gomoh(Bihar). Only WAG5s are based at GZB where there is a special
shed
where the maintenance is in the hands of ADtranz(ABB) and IR team does
not
even
get to touch them internally.

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: poras p.saklatwalla <pps@godrej.email
To: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: WAG 9 SIGHTED AT VALSAD was motive power in the Mumbai div


>APPU
>WAG 9 FROM WHERELSE BUT GHAZIABAD ! IT SEEMS THE BEST LOCOS ARE IN
>GHAZIABAD SHED AND ALL SUPERPOWERS ARE RUN IN NORTH EAST AND SOUTH
WHILST
>THE WEST WHICH HAS THE COMMERCIAL CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY IS LEFT WITH
>DUMBOS LIKE WCAM1 2 OR 3 !
>
>PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
>TEL :5773535/3636
>EXT :4226/4232/4237
>
>

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes [Was Re: codes for Indian rail]

Date: 13 Apr 1999 08:59:09 -0500



>One thing that I found interesting was the while DLI was in the Delhi
>Division, DE was in Bikaner Division. Even now (as recently as 1997),
>apparently the MG converted to BG line in DEE continued to be part of
>Bikaner Division. Of course if this has changed recently, I am sure
>someone will correct me.


You are very correct. However both MG and BG survive between Delhi Sarai
Rohilla(DSR) and Rewari which falls in Bikaner division. This may not
change
with gauge conversion but will change when North Western Rly. zone will
come
into picture. It will shift to Delhi division(more likely) or Jaipur.



Harsh

From: srikant.subramaniam <>

Subject: Bid to make century-old railway line viable

Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:13:06 -0500



<A HREF="http://www.hinduonline.com/today/stories/0214000e.htm">http://www.hinduonline.com/today/stories/0214000e.htm</A>
--
Srikant.
mailto:srikant@weblogic.email

From: Vdate <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes [Was Re: codes for Indian rail]

Date: 13 Apr 1999 18:46:00 -0500


Thanks for the input. He is correct re: extensive use of telegraphs in
railways in years past. The reservation intimations, food reservations
on
running trains was mostly done telegraphically. How is done now?

From: JAIGOPAL_B <>

Subject: Re: WAG 9 SIGHTED AT VALSAD was motive power in the Mumbai div

Date: 13 Apr 1999 22:59:43 -0500




-----Original Message-----
From: Harsh Vardhan
To: poras p.saklatwalla ; Apurva Bahadur
Cc: irfca@cs.email
Sent: 4/13/99 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: WAG 9 SIGHTED AT VALSAD was motive power in the Mumbai div

Hello,

I don't doubt your integrity as a trainspotter but there is not even 1
in
million chance for a WAG9 to go to Bulsar of all the places. Talking of
Western Rly. routes these locos don't even go to TKD(yes but they do
take
the coal trains to Badarpur TPS at Delhi)

WAG9s are restricted to the Delhi-Howrah trunk route and in addition go
north upto Ludhiana. I made sure about this before sending this mail.
However if you can give me the No. of the loco and its livery and wheel
arrangement, I can quickly make a double check.

Contrary to the popular belief, all the WAG9s are not based at Ghaziabad
but
at Gomoh(Bihar). Only WAG5s are based at GZB where there is a special
shed
where the maintenance is in the hands of ADtranz(ABB) and IR team does
not
even
get to touch them internally.

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: poras p.saklatwalla <pps@godrej.email
To: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: WAG 9 SIGHTED AT VALSAD was motive power in the Mumbai div


>APPU
>WAG 9 FROM WHERELSE BUT GHAZIABAD ! IT SEEMS THE BEST LOCOS ARE IN
>GHAZIABAD SHED AND ALL SUPERPOWERS ARE RUN IN NORTH EAST AND SOUTH
WHILST
>THE WEST WHICH HAS THE COMMERCIAL CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY IS LEFT WITH
>DUMBOS LIKE WCAM1 2 OR 3 !
>
>PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
>TEL :5773535/3636
>EXT :4226/4232/4237
>
>

From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: Station Codes again

Date: 14 Apr 1999 00:25:50 -0500



Hi!

Everyone out on rails!


On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Apurva Bahadur wrote:

> > 1. BA for Bandra v/s BCT for Mumbai Central (Bombay Central)
>
> I think Bandra is BNDT - Viraf/ Sarosh/ Shriniwas please confirm.
>

Apurva, Today's TOI has a advertisement calling in passengers who the WR
suspects to be dummy ones, for scrutiny of their reservations in Summer
rush. There under the column FROM it shows BDTS as Bandra and not BNDT
or
BA as mentioned in earlier mails .

Thats all ,

Shrinivas

From: Sunil Bajpai <>

Subject: Re: Station Codes again

Date: 14 Apr 1999 02:01:56 -0500


Thanks to Apurva Bahadur and Steven Brown for their messages of welcome.

Re: Shrinivas Joshi and Apurva's comments about the station code for
Bandra

BDTS is the code for Bandra Passenger Terminus
BA is for the suburban station on WR (Don't sue me guys if this one
is
wrong!)


Re: Apurva's query about single letter codes

R = Raipur in SER
J = Jalna

Thanks for tolerating the typos in my postings and for pointing out the
errors.

Regards,

Sunil

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