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From: Vadi Elumalai <>

Subject: Re: Remaming of Sahar airport

Date: 24 Mar 1999 11:20:30 -0500


Apurva,
have you been to Madras? Almost everything has 'Anna'
(Annadurai, founder
of DMK and the most popular dravidian movement leader) prefix. To name
a few:

Anna International Airport
Anna Road (was Mount Road, main artery of the city)
Anna University
Anna Nagar
Anna Flyover
Anna Transport Corporation
Anna District
Anna Arts

If Karunanidhi comes to know that there is no railway station named
after
Anna, he will rename Chennai Central to Anna Central :)

At 02:14 PM 3/24/99 +0530, Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>Gang !
>
>Guess what the new name of the Sahar & Santa Cruz airport in
>Mumbai is ?
>It is Chatrapati Shivaji International Airport.
>Mumbai must be only city in the world whose airport and the
>major railway station has the same name. This is in no way
>undermining Shivaji the great warrior from Maharashtra. But if
>people had their way, the whole of Mumbai would be named after
>Shivaji and his family members and a few Thakareys too !
>I suppose renaming is an easy and cost effective 'task' that
>politicians routinely perform. Solving the real problems
>(Mumbai is fast becoming the organised crime capital of India,
>Maharashtra is posting record defecit and losses in the annual
>budget etc ) take longer to solve.
>Is Mumbai the only place in India whose station has been
>renamed ?
>Lately I am seeing a different spelling of Howrah - "Haora" in
>the Calcutta map.
>Apurva
>

From: Kartik Pashupati <>

Subject: Railway Station Architecture

Date: 24 Mar 1999 13:23:15 -0500


Speaking of Anna Station (not!), I think Chennai Central is also fairly
distinctive in its architecture, and has become a landmark of the city,
appearing in many picture postcards and the like.

However, it is not even close to the beauty of VT, which remains one of
the
most strikingly good looking stations around.

Incidentally, when I was passing through Amsterdam 10 years ago, I
thought
that Centraal Station there had a certain passing resemblance to Chennai
Central.

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Food at the station

Date: 25 Mar 1999 00:06:48 -0500


> And about the food available at Stations, which all do you find good.
> Personally, SBC (Bangalore) and ADI (Ahmedabad) are my favourites, I
> have seen people from the city come to these stations to "eat out",
even
> when they had no train business.

We used to do this at Pune too. The Railway day in April would be
celebrated
by the Model Railway Society of Pune by a bash at the railway canteen.
Often
we used to go out and eat the Grilled Chicken in tomato base or mutton
gravy
while finishing with a pudding. However this is not true anymore, now
that
the first floor of Pune Jn. is a retiring room and the canteen has been
shifted to the platform 1. The food is now the standard "egg curry = non
veg
meal", everything else is just not available.I also remember the mutton
cutlets or the fish fry which was available on the 3rd floor of VT. This
sadly is also no more.

Apurva

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: High-speed runs on IR

Date: 25 Mar 1999 08:11:17 -0500


-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur [SMTP:iti@vsnl.email
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 4:55 AM
To: Vijay Balasubramanian
Cc: 'irfca@cs.email
Subject: Re: High-speed runs on IR

Which is the fastest 'non superfast' (lacking the 2xxx number) train on
the IR.
Is it the Pune - Howrah Azad Hind Express which virtually follows the
timings of
the 2859 Geetanjali ?

Apurva


Could you clarify your definition of 'fastest'? A train could be
classified as fastest according to different criteria:
- Maxmium speed - many of the non-superfasts have a top speed of 110
kmph. in sections such as N.Delhi-Kanpur-Mughalsarai, Igatpuri-Bhusaval,
Ratlam-N.Delhi, etc.
- Commercial speed - average speed between terminii (the ones that just
miss the 55 kmph. cut-off point could be classified as fastest - have to
look into this)

Although, the Azad Hind has a decent halt pattern it is 1.5/2.5 hrs.
slower than the Gitanjali between Bhusaval and Howrah.

Vijay


>
>

From: Steven Sliwka <>

Subject: WDM2 locomotive

Date: 25 Mar 1999 10:38:38 -0500


Dear Members
 
I'm new to this, so I don't quite know how it works.
 
I'm looking for information (line drawings, pics, etc.) on the WDM2 and its variants.  I would like to build a scale model of this loco, but I don't have much to go by.  I'm especially lacking any photos of the roof.  I also need drawings that show the hood door arrangement and dimensions.  I would appreciate anyone's help.
 
Sincerely
 

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: High-speed runs on IR

Date: 26 Mar 1999 00:30:53 -0500


> Could you clarify your definition of 'fastest'? A train could be
> classified as fastest according to different criteria:
> - Maxmium speed - many of the non-superfasts have a top speed of 110
> kmph. in sections such as N.Delhi-Kanpur-Mughalsarai,
Igatpuri-Bhusaval,
> Ratlam-N.Delhi, etc.

Like you said many trains work at high speeds in sections if the rake is
capable, but the correct definition would be the fastest run between the
two
end stations/ termini. Example the 8001 CSTM - HWH Mail is faster than
8029
CLAT - HWH Express, although IGP - BSL, BSL - NGP speeds of both trains
would be similar. I think it would narrow down to the trains with lesser
number of stops.

> - Commercial speed - average speed between terminii (the ones that
just
> miss the 55 kmph. cut-off point could be classified as fastest - have
to
> look into this)

From: Deepak Sapra <>

Subject: Re: Remaming of Sahar airport

Date: 26 Mar 1999 05:21:24 -0500





>From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
>Subject: Remaming of Sahar airport

>Gang !
>
>Guess what the new name of the Sahar & Santa Cruz airport in
>Mumbai is ?
>It is Chatrapati Shivaji International Airport.
>Mumbai must be only city in the world whose airport and the
>major railway station has the same name. This is in no way
>undermining Shivaji the great warrior from Maharashtra. But if
>people had their way, the whole of Mumbai would be named after
>Shivaji and his family members and a few Thakareys too !
>I suppose renaming is an easy and cost effective 'task' that
>politicians routinely perform. Solving the real problems
>(Mumbai is fast becoming the organised crime capital of India,
>Maharashtra is posting record defecit and losses in the annual
>budget etc ) take longer to solve.
>Is Mumbai the only place in India whose station has been
>renamed ?
>Lately I am seeing a different spelling of Howrah - "Haora" in
>the Calcutta map.
>Apurva
____________________________________________________________________
Haora is not the Howrah we all know about. Haora is a station on the
Sealdah North Line and is geographically, to the north of Calcutta.
Howrah is to the West of Calcutta.
Howrah, fortunately, is not suffering from any renaming pangs at
present, perhaps because it is the name of the district itself. But who

knows, the 21st century might have HWH renamed as Netaji Subhash
Terminus or Tagore Central station.
Deepak

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From: Pradip613 <>

Subject: Haora vs Howrah and Shalimar Stations

Date: 26 Mar 1999 08:11:50 -0500


Something new I learned from this network. I always thought Haora was
the same
as Howrah. And I lived in Calcutta for 14 years. Thanks for clearing
that up
Apurva. I also have a question regarding the Shalimar station near
Howrah. I
see that some major trains are now starting there. What is the best way
there
from Calcutta? I presume the new bridge across Hoogli is now fully
functional
with good roads on the Howrah side. Is my presumption correct?

Pradip Rao

From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?

Date: 26 Mar 1999 20:20:31 -0500



Hi!


Source Asian Age , Mumbai Edition dt: 27th Mar'99

Asian Age reports that on 26th Mar. empty Shatabdi coaches of the
Kalka-New
Delhi Shatabdi sped uncontrollably down the Shivalik foot hills for
more
than 15 kms at great speed ,about 112 km/hr. All the coaches bar the
diesel
locomotive derailed as it was directed onto the slip siding. The abrupt
change
in direction in such a speed broke the couplings linking the locomotive
and the generator car with rest of the coaches.

This happened in the early hours at 3:40 AM, when it was being rolled
out
,after being certified fit for journey from Kalka on its daily run to
NDelhi. The servicing & inspection drill was carried out for about five
hours. So, this too can happen despite such detailed checking?

This suddenly reminded me of a similar instance ,happening to Mumbai
bound
Indrayani ,when it came down the ghats from Khandala to Karjat. And that
too it was packed to capacity & over. Only thing the coaches of
Indrayani
didn't derail, otherwise the calamity would have been grave.

Shrinivas

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?

Date: 27 Mar 1999 10:52:52 -0500




"SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI" wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Source Asian Age , Mumbai Edition dt: 27th Mar'99
>
> Asian Age reports that on 26th Mar. empty Shatabdi coaches of the
Kalka-New
> Delhi Shatabdi sped uncontrollably down the Shivalik foot hills for
more
> than 15 kms at great speed ,about 112 km/hr. All the coaches bar the
diesel
> locomotive derailed as it was directed onto the slip siding. The
abrupt change
> in direction in such a speed broke the couplings linking the
locomotive
> and the generator car with rest of the coaches.

Very silly accident. The national newspapers show a string of derailed
coaches.
However the reason is attributed to 'mechanical problems' without
specifying brake
failure. My guess is that the air braked rake was started without
charging the brake
lines having being released manually before. Or one of the angle cocks
were closed. A
brake power certificate is supposed to prevent such mishaps but does it
apply to
shunting rakes ? It should in this case, after all the rake is
maintained at Kalka and
was being shunted at speed (50 Kmph) to Chandigadh using the main line.
It is a simple
case of the procedure not being followed.
The other derailments today are the Sawantwadi Express which derailed at
Chichpokli in
Mumbai and a TK wagon rake which derailed at Atgaon on the NE line out
of Kalyan.

Apurva

>
>
> This happened in the early hours at 3:40 AM, when it was being rolled
out
> ,after being certified fit for journey from Kalka on its daily run to
> NDelhi. The servicing & inspection drill was carried out for about
five
> hours. So, this too can happen despite such detailed checking?
>
> This suddenly reminded me of a similar instance ,happening to Mumbai
bound
> Indrayani ,when it came down the ghats from Khandala to Karjat. And
that
> too it was packed to capacity & over. Only thing the coaches of
Indrayani
> didn't derail, otherwise the calamity would have been grave.
>
> Shrinivas

From: Deepak Sapra <>

Subject: Re: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?

Date: 27 Mar 1999 11:16:37 -0500


One small correction to what Mr Bahadur points out-
The Shatabdi rake was not being 'shunted' to CDG from KLK. The train is
KLK Shatabdi, and it runs between KLK-NDLS.
CDG Shatabdi does NOT go to KLK for it's rake maintenance.
Deepak


>From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
>To: "SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI" <smg@godrej.email
>CC: Indian Rails <irfca@cs.email
>Subject: Re: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?
>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:22:52 +0530
>
>
>
>"SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI" wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Source Asian Age , Mumbai Edition dt: 27th Mar'99
>>
>> Asian Age reports that on 26th Mar. empty Shatabdi coaches of the
Kalka-New
>> Delhi Shatabdi sped uncontrollably down the Shivalik foot hills for
more
>> than 15 kms at great speed ,about 112 km/hr. All the coaches bar the
diesel
>> locomotive derailed as it was directed onto the slip siding. The
abrupt change
>> in direction in such a speed broke the couplings linking the
locomotive
>> and the generator car with rest of the coaches.
>
>Very silly accident. The national newspapers show a string of derailed
coaches.
>However the reason is attributed to 'mechanical problems' without
specifying brake
>failure. My guess is that the air braked rake was started without
charging the brake
>lines having being released manually before. Or one of the angle cocks
were closed. A
>brake power certificate is supposed to prevent such mishaps but does it

apply to
>shunting rakes ? It should in this case, after all the rake is
maintained at Kalka and
>was being shunted at speed (50 Kmph) to Chandigadh using the main line.

It is a simple
>case of the procedure not being followed.
>The other derailments today are the Sawantwadi Express which derailed
at Chichpokli in
>Mumbai and a TK wagon rake which derailed at Atgaon on the NE line out
of Kalyan.
>
>Apurva
>
>>
>>
>> This happened in the early hours at 3:40 AM, when it was being rolled

out
>> ,after being certified fit for journey from Kalka on its daily run to
>> NDelhi. The servicing & inspection drill was carried out for about
five
>> hours. So, this too can happen despite such detailed checking?
>>
>> This suddenly reminded me of a similar instance ,happening to Mumbai
bound
>> Indrayani ,when it came down the ghats from Khandala to Karjat. And
that
>> too it was packed to capacity & over. Only thing the coaches of
Indrayani
>> didn't derail, otherwise the calamity would have been grave.
>>
>> Shrinivas
>

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From: Karthik Giddu <>

Subject: Damanganga and Vaitarna Photos are up.

Date: 28 Mar 1999 09:25:36 -0500


Hello Folks,
At last Damanganga and Vaitarna Photos are up. U can see it at
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/gidduk">http://members.tripod.com/gidduk</A> Then click on the Gallery
section/Option.

The Site is still not 100% up. About 10% work is still pending. Tourist
Section is not Fuctioning. Holiday Special Timetable for Western and
Central Railway can be seen at News Section/Option of my Website.

Please do have a look and send me your feedback.

Bye,
Karthik

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?

Date: 28 Mar 1999 21:39:17 -0500


Another Shatbdi derailment which went largely unreported four days back
was
that of Howrah-Raurkela Shatabdi. My friend who was on-board informed me
that six coaches derailed at full speed although there were no
casualties.
The coaches were however badly damaged as electrical equipment
chieselled
through side of the coaches cutting them like a hot knife does to
butter.
two coached turned turtle as well.

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <smg@godrej.email
To: Indian Rails <irfca@cs.email
Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:13 PM
Subject: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?


>
>Hi!
>
>
>Source Asian Age , Mumbai Edition dt: 27th Mar'99
>
>Asian Age reports that on 26th Mar. empty Shatabdi coaches of the
Kalka-New
>Delhi Shatabdi sped uncontrollably down the Shivalik foot hills for
more
>than 15 kms at great speed ,about 112 km/hr. All the coaches bar the
diesel
>locomotive derailed as it was directed onto the slip siding. The abrupt
change
>in direction in such a speed broke the couplings linking the locomotive
>and the generator car with rest of the coaches.
>
>This happened in the early hours at 3:40 AM, when it was being rolled
out
>,after being certified fit for journey from Kalka on its daily run to
>NDelhi. The servicing & inspection drill was carried out for about five
>hours. So, this too can happen despite such detailed checking?
>
>This suddenly reminded me of a similar instance ,happening to Mumbai
bound
>Indrayani ,when it came down the ghats from Khandala to Karjat. And
that
>too it was packed to capacity & over. Only thing the coaches of
Indrayani
>didn't derail, otherwise the calamity would have been grave.
>
>Shrinivas
>
>

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Damanganga and Vaitarna Photos are up.

Date: 28 Mar 1999 22:50:27 -0500


Hi Karthik,

The WP pic on the bridge is great. Want to see more railway pictures
(this is
essentially a railfan site isn't it ?) on you site.

Apurva

Karthik Giddu wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> At last Damanganga and Vaitarna Photos are up. U can see it at
> <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/gidduk">http://members.tripod.com/gidduk</A> Then click on the Gallery
section/Option.
>
> The Site is still not 100% up. About 10% work is still pending.
Tourist
> Section is not Fuctioning. Holiday Special Timetable for Western and
> Central Railway can be seen at News Section/Option of my Website.
>
> Please do have a look and send me your feedback.
>
> Bye,
> Karthik

From: Ravi Joshi <>

Subject:

Date: 29 Mar 1999 08:30:32 -0500


Gang,
    I have updated the Museum site. It can now accessed at the address <<A HREF="http://www.minirailways.com>">http://www.minirailways.com></A> I have also posted some new photos at the site.
 
 
Dr. Ravi Joshi
17/1 B/2 G. A. Kulkarni Road,
Kothrud, Pune 411 029.
India.
 
Phone : 335378    Fax  331165
 
<<A HREF="http://www.soudamini.com>">http://www.soudamini.com></A>
<<A HREF="http://www.minirailways.com>">http://www.minirailways.com></A>
 

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: National Geographic I.R. article

Date: 29 Mar 1999 11:38:00 -0500


Well I was lucky I guess ... well before taking railfanning seriously ... 8 years back I chanced on a second hand copy near my place in chembur at a ridiculous price of rupees 10. I didn't think more .. just picked it up right away ....

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Brooker < aum108@idirect.email <mailto:aum108@idirect.email
To: < irfca@cs.email <mailto:irfca@cs.email
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 11:21 PM
Subject: National Geographic I.R. article


I also highly recommend the National Geographic/PBS Indian Railways video.  It's been shown several times on my local PBS station (WNED, Channel 17, Buffalo, NY).
 
A National Geographic "must-read" for all I.R. fans:
 
The June 1984 National Geographic cover story is "By Rail Across the Indian Subcontinent" by Paul Theroux.    Check out the cover photo of a steam loco, with the Taj Majal in the background.  Some excellent pictures in this article (including the Darjeeling "Toy Train"), as well as a map of the rail network before and after independence, and a brief history of I.R.
 
You should be able to get hold of the June '84 National Geographic at your public library.  Many public libraries have bound volumes of the N.G. going way, way, way back.  You might even find it at your doctor's office.  Doctor's waiting rooms are notorious repositories for old magazines! :-)
 
Thanks to everyone who helped with my request for I.R. station codes.  Some are almost as obscure as the international airport codes.  Some of those are self-explanatorry (LAX = Los Angeles, LHR = London Heathrow, DEL = Delhi, etc.) but how in the @#$%^ did they get ORD for Chicago (O for O'Hare, but that doesn't explain the R or the D), or YYZ for Toronto?
 
********************************************************************
Mike Brooker
99 Wychcrest Ave.,
Toronto, ON  M6G 3X8
CANADA
(416) 536-7406
********************************************************************

From: Ravi Joshi <>

Subject: from ravi Joshi about change in email address

Date: 29 Mar 1999 22:22:23 -0500


Please change my email address from ravi_jo@usa.email <mailto:ravi_jo@usa.email to ravi@minirailways.email <mailto:ravi@minirailways.email
 
The Museum site can now be accessed at <<A HREF="http://www.minirailways.com>">http://www.minirailways.com></A>
 
Also please check the link on the IRFCA site it has got mixed up with another link
And could you also add the link on the Railways Museums page?
 
Thanks
 
Dr. Ravi Joshi
17/1 B/2 G. A. Kulkarni Road,
Kothrud, Pune 411 029.
India.
 
Phone : 335378    Fax  331165
 
<<A HREF="http://www.soudamini.com>">http://www.soudamini.com></A>
<<A HREF="http://www.minirailways.com>">http://www.minirailways.com></A>
 

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Beautiful stations is the film 'Virasat'

Date: 30 Mar 1999 00:08:51 -0500




Harsh Vardhan wrote:

> Apurva,
> The station is indeed fantastic(some branch line station in rural TN
or
> maybe just a special set!! Iam only guessing).
>
> But it is not a terminus as you said and certainly there is no YP or
any
> other steam loco in that movie.
>
> The reason for this second mail on this subject is :
> I have just seen the movie again It has a few YDM 4(deep blue livery)
> passings and a rather smoking one at the end. But It sure would have
looked
> out of world with a steam locomotive.

Yes - the movie must have used a YDM 4. I always believed that this
station
must be somewhere in Gujarath or Rajasthan. What are the pointers to
this site
being in Tamil Nadu ? Do you think this deep blue YDM 4 came from Abu
Road
rather than GTL or GOC ?

> Has anyone seen the original `Thevar magan' and can add anything to
this?
> Did they use a steam loco there.
>
> Harsh

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?

Date: 30 Mar 1999 01:01:40 -0500


Are there separate Shatabdi's for KLK and CDG (don't have a NR tt at
hand) ?
The newspapers mention that this rake was being shunted from KLK to CDG.
Are
there C&W and TXR posts at both the stations ?

Apurva

Deepak Sapra wrote:

> One small correction to what Mr Bahadur points out-
> The Shatabdi rake was not being 'shunted' to CDG from KLK. The train
is
> KLK Shatabdi, and it runs between KLK-NDLS.
> CDG Shatabdi does NOT go to KLK for it's rake maintenance.
> Deepak
>
> >From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
> >To: "SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI" <smg@godrej.email
> >CC: Indian Rails <irfca@cs.email
> >Subject: Re: Shatabdi does a Indrayani?
> >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:22:52 +0530
> >
> >
> >
> >"SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> Source Asian Age , Mumbai Edition dt: 27th Mar'99
> >>
> >> Asian Age reports that on 26th Mar. empty Shatabdi coaches of the
> Kalka-New
> >> Delhi Shatabdi sped uncontrollably down the Shivalik foot hills
for
> more
> >> than 15 kms at great speed ,about 112 km/hr. All the coaches bar
the
> diesel
> >> locomotive derailed as it was directed onto the slip siding. The
> abrupt change
> >> in direction in such a speed broke the couplings linking the
> locomotive
> >> and the generator car with rest of the coaches.
> >
> >Very silly accident. The national newspapers show a string of
derailed
> coaches.
> >However the reason is attributed to 'mechanical problems' without
> specifying brake
> >failure. My guess is that the air braked rake was started without
> charging the brake
> >lines having being released manually before. Or one of the angle
cocks
> were closed. A
> >brake power certificate is supposed to prevent such mishaps but does
it
> apply to
> >shunting rakes ? It should in this case, after all the rake is
> maintained at Kalka and
> >was being shunted at speed (50 Kmph) to Chandigadh using the main
line.
> It is a simple
> >case of the procedure not being followed.
> >The other derailments today are the Sawantwadi Express which derailed
> at Chichpokli in
> >Mumbai and a TK wagon rake which derailed at Atgaon on the NE line
out
> of Kalyan.
> >
> >Apurva
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> This happened in the early hours at 3:40 AM, when it was being
rolled
> out
> >> ,after being certified fit for journey from Kalka on its daily run
to
> >> NDelhi. The servicing & inspection drill was carried out for about
> five
> >> hours. So, this too can happen despite such detailed checking?
> >>
> >> This suddenly reminded me of a similar instance ,happening to
Mumbai
> bound
> >> Indrayani ,when it came down the ghats from Khandala to Karjat. And
> that
> >> too it was packed to capacity & over. Only thing the coaches of
> Indrayani
> >> didn't derail, otherwise the calamity would have been grave.
> >>
> >> Shrinivas
> >
>
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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Train scenes from another Hindi film - Inkaar

Date: 30 Mar 1999 06:53:54 -0500


Had a chance to see 'Inkaar' again after a long time. One of the
reasons was to revisit some classic train shots including one of the
elegant 'green-grey-yellow-stripes' rake at Bombay V.T. The villian
(Amjad Khan) has plans to leave for Calcutta by the Mail and the livery
seems to be consistent - the Howrah Mail via Nagpur did have this
livery in the late 70s. If anyone has seen this movie recently (or has
a chance to see it in the near future) please confirm that this is,
indeed, the Howrah Mail of the 70s.

Vijay

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