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From: Shell Prosser <>

Subject: Rail tracks at Kalyan

Date: 14 Jan 1999 06:56:40 -0500


Hi!

I've been a member of this list for the past two days and have learnt
lots abt trains (for which I have great interest). I apologise if the
following is out of scope of this list.

I have been a frequent traveler on the Bombay Pune route on the
Indrayani Exp. I somehow have the feeling that the track layout around
Kalyan station is not efficient enough.

Please refer to the figure and notes I have made in the URL
<A HREF="http:\\www.geocities.com\CapeCanaveral\Galaxy\3335">http:\\www.geocities.com\CapeCanaveral\Galaxy\3335</A>
which I suppose is close to what is happening out there.

Am I right in thinking that this is not very efficient? Or is there some

explanation for this?

I would be glad if someone could clarify.

Thanks,
Jai

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From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: Rail tracks at Kalyan

Date: 14 Jan 1999 08:11:47 -0500




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shell Prosser [mailto:shellprosser@hotmail.email
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:57 AM
> To: irfca@cs.email
> Subject: Rail tracks at Kalyan
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I've been a member of this list for the past two days and have learnt
> lots abt trains (for which I have great interest). I apologise if the
> following is out of scope of this list.
>
> I have been a frequent traveler on the Bombay Pune route on the
> Indrayani Exp. I somehow have the feeling that the track
> layout around
> Kalyan station is not efficient enough.
>
> Please refer to the figure and notes I have made in the URL
> <A HREF="http:\\www.geocities.com\CapeCanaveral\Galaxy\3335">http:\\www.geocities.com\CapeCanaveral\Galaxy\3335</A>
> which I suppose is close to what is happening out there.
>

The layout is an asymmetrical version of the standard
two-main-line-two-loop-line format. The main "straight-through" lines
serve
platforms 4 and 5, respectively. The lines for platforms 6 and 7 are
essentially loop lines branching out from the PF5 line.


> The above track layout at kalyan station seems to be fishy
to
me. For a train >arriving from Bombay at PF. 4, towards Karjat, there is
no
problem. If a train has to arrive to >PF 5, then, all down trains must
be
held on PF 6 & 7 till it has and vice versa.

I am assuming you are refering to a train arriving from Karjat on PF 5.
Platforms 6 and 7 are mostly used by Up trains, so this conflict should
be a
rare occurence.


>This can be avoided by conecting the tracks from PF 6 and 7 to the main
down line at a point >after the branch-out from the PF 4 line to the PF
5
line.

I don't see how this will solve the problem. Since any Dn. train
leaving PF
6 or 7 has to CROSS the PF5 line to reach the PF4 line (main Dn. line),
any
train arriving on PF5 will hold up such a train. One would have to
build an
overpass/underpass to circumvent the conflict.


>Similarly, a train to karjat leaving PF 5 holds up trains on the down
line
till it reaches the >up line. A track must be made to connect the Up
line.

This seems feasible. Just provide a switch from the PF5 line to the PF4
line BEFORE PF6/7 lines merge into the PF5 line.


>If changed, PF 4 & 5 can be exclusively used for Up and 6 & 7 for Down
trains.

Strange as it may seem, both the main lines serving platforms 4 & 5 are
essentially being used for Dn. trains. During my 1995 trip on the 1026
Up
Pragati Exp. from Lonavla to Dadar, I observed that the train branched
off
the main Up line and chose to pass through Kalyan via PF6 (rather than
continuing straight and pass via PF5).

The lines to Kasara must be branching off the PF4 and PF5 lines before
they take a steep curve to the South. IMHO (In My Humble Opinion)
Northbound trains cannot use platforms 6 or 7.


Vijay

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 14 Jan 1999 10:03:43 -0500


> > The KK must hold the honor for the most tortured route of
> any superfast
> > express
> > (Delhi bound or otherwise).
>
> A close second would be the 2779/2780 NZM-UBL Goa Express.
> It goes like
> this: Hubli - Pune (reverse) - Daund (reverse) - Manmad -
> (change of power) -
> then follow the same tracks as the KK towards Delhi. The
> Pune - Miraj single

I seem to recall a Londa-Hubli Exp. from the SCR timetable. Is this
nothing
but a portion of the Goa Exp. that gets detached/attached at Londa?

Vijay

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 14 Jan 1999 10:11:10 -0500


> The train departs from SBC late in the evening. It had been a
> while since
> I made an overnight journey on a Diesel hauled train and it
> was wonderful
> to have Diesel exhaust waft in to the coach at night, not to
> mention the
> trademark sound of the the locos (which seems to travel quite
> a distace at
> night - ours was the 9th coach). After a good night sleep, the next
> morning I woke up with the train at Hotgi waiting for Hussain Sagar
> Express. A superfast express halted for crossing - it must be
> the Madras -
> Bombay trunk!

The Hussain Sagar Exp. is a pathetic version of the classy Minar Exp.
that
used to be superfast till the early 90s. The Minar Exp. was the ONLY
train
in the single line Daund-Gangapur Rd. section that would not halt for
any
crossings. In fact, the working TT indicates that the Karnataka Exp.
has a
halt for the Minar Exp. crossing.


>
> During the return, we spent a few hours at Manmad as the KK
> was 4 hours
> late. Great opprtunity to watch a parade of trains, from Pushpak and
> Gitanjali to WAG7 (with tiger strips) hauled freights. BTW,

Do you remember whether the Pushpak Exp. was vestibuled? I would assume
that it would atleast have vestibuled coaches after being upgraded to
superfast status.

How about the Punjab Mail? Does it have vestibuled coaches?

Vijay

From: Sridhar Shankar <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 14 Jan 1999 13:21:51 -0500


Vijay,

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Balasubramanian, Vijay wrote:

> > morning I woke up with the train at Hotgi waiting for Hussain Sagar
> > Express. A superfast express halted for crossing - it must be
> > the Madras -
> > Bombay trunk!
>
> The Hussain Sagar Exp. is a pathetic version of the classy Minar Exp.
that
> used to be superfast till the early 90s. The Minar Exp. was the ONLY
train
> in the single line Daund-Gangapur Rd. section that would not halt for
any
> crossings. In fact, the working TT indicates that the Karnataka Exp.
has a
> halt for the Minar Exp. crossing.

Why is this section so pathetic? Single lines and Max speed of 90KMPH
(Vijay can you check on this). If I had to guess it would be lack of
freight traffic (which brings in the $$) and perhaps lack of
political clout (these districts appear to be backward areas of AP and
Karnataka).

>
> >
> > During the return, we spent a few hours at Manmad as the KK
> > was 4 hours
> > late. Great opprtunity to watch a parade of trains, from Pushpak and
> > Gitanjali to WAG7 (with tiger strips) hauled freights. BTW,
>
> Do you remember whether the Pushpak Exp. was vestibuled? I would
assume
> that it would atleast have vestibuled coaches after being upgraded to
> superfast status.
>
I think it was vestibuled. However, I can tell you this the
Gorakpur-Dadar
express did have vestibued coaches. BTW, even run of the mill trains are
now vestibuled (such as the Quilon-Bangalore special). The newer
coaches seem to have a slightly better looking vestibules. I also
noticed
that the quality of fittings and workmanship in the RCF coaches are not
quite upto the standards of the ICF coaches. Interestingly, even though
Pushpak does not have a halt at Manmad, it did stop briefly before the
running room to pick up a couple of staff into the loco. I did not see
anyone getting off so it was not a crew change - so it must be quick
transportation to to Mumbai. Gitanjali which was an hour or so late
showed
every intention of trying to make up for the lost time.

The Lalbagh express from Bangalore to Madras was hauled by a very clean
looking green and cream WAM4-P6-E. Any ideas what this means?

-Sridhar

From: Shell Prosser <>

Subject: Re: Rail tracks at Kalyan

Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:09:01 -0500


Thanks for the reply.
However, I need to get one thing clear, I'm getting confused with what
exactly is the up direction and what the down.

Thanks for bearing with me!

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From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 14 Jan 1999 18:15:38 -0500


>Great opprtunity to watch a parade of trains, from Pushpak and
>Gitanjali to WAG7 (with tiger strips) hauled freights. BTW, where on
earth
>is Ajni?



Dear Sridhar,

In response to your question, Ajni is just outside Nagpur 4km away on
the
Nagpur - Wardha - Bombay section.and is one of the largest goods siding
yards in India. its unique location of being on that portion of the line
which is common to the north - south trunk and the east -west trunk
routes.
All Nagpur based locos (you will not find any based in Nagpur) actually
hail
from Ajni shed.

I went to Nagpur recently and got a few great pix including the WAG7, my
page will be up soon with pix.

Rajan

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: One eyed WDM 2

Date: 14 Jan 1999 18:31:09 -0500


Dear All,

As Apurva puts it "there seems to be a pattern". Even I have not
confirmed
this, but after observing numerous trains and engines, I believe that IR
has
provided rolling stock to KR on lease, and the entire cocktail of
coaches
and locos is due to this reason.

I mentioned earlier that KR had only the II chaircar coaches with its
characteristic brightblue livery. The Madgaon Express has sleper and AC
coaches as well. These are of the standard colour. Each coach seems to
be
from different zones ie SR, CR, SE, SC, etc and it seems that these
zones
have contributed "their share to KR". This is also the probable reason
why
KR is using locos from such faraway sheds like Golden Rock rather than
sheds
neare home like KYN, Further I believe that these locos are based in KR
section ie Ratnagiri and Madgaon.

Rajan
-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
To: S.B.Mehta <sarosh@godrej.email
Cc: KRISHNA T S <krishaxe@hotmail.email irfca@cs.email
<irfca@cs.email
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: One eyed WDM 2


>
>
>S.B.Mehta wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I am wrong but does this particular WDM2 have a sloping
>> low nose? If that's correct then I saw this loco bearing the Golden
>> Rock livery pulling the Dadar-Ratnagiri (KR) rake at Dadar roundabout
>> 4pm.
>
>Yes that is correct - Now that most of you have identified the variant
of
>the loco, what I saw in Pune was a Jumbo with the left hand glass
>windscreen missing. Instead of the glass there was a sheet of metal
>welded in that slot and a 'normal' rectangular 'lookout glass' from a
>standard WDM 2 grafted in the metal sheet. The sheet was painted with
the
>normal red oxide paint of the rest of loco. This led to a very strange
>looking loco with one glass windscreen and one sheet metal windscreen
>with a small glass panel - this led to the one eyed look which is the
>title of this email and this thread.
>There seems to be a pattern in the fact that a GOC (Golden Rock to you
>peasants) loco is being used on a purely KR route, the normal power I
>would expect on this train is a Kalyan or even Pune power. The Mumbai
>region has more WDM 2 hauled freight trains than ever before, and I
feel
>that the KYN shed now specialises in freight power rather than mail
>express locos.
>
>Apurva
>
>
>

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: SUPER TRUNK ROUTES

Date: 14 Jan 1999 18:54:57 -0500


While we are on the subject of SUPER superfast trains, I dont think that
Rajdhani type trains should be the preserve of the lot that is DELHI
bound.
As
we enter the next century, we have to realise that all metros need to be
connected with a good network of superfast deluxe trains. A good example
is
the Kurla Howrah and Kurla Nagpur Deluxe trains which are being
introduced.
More such trains between metros are a must.

(Well you might have caught me on using metros and Nagpur in the same
breath. The schedule of the train is excellent and supplements the
Vidharbha
on one day, which itself has become extremely popular. Nagpur is also
the
second capital of Maharashtra)

We should have certain trunk routes identified and developed as
highspeed
lines for pax and goods traffic. Superdeluxe highspeed trains can be run
on
these sectors interconnecting places (trasin/frequency as traffic
demands).

I suggest the following routes as the total set of lines in the
programme.

The following cities will thus be well interconnected
CSTM/MCT, NDLS, MAS, HWH, SC, SBC, ADI, LKO, PNBE, GHY/Dimapur, MAO,
Kerala,
ASR, JAT
(I mention Kerala as a whole rather than any one city since originatiing
passengers are spread throught the state.)

Thus all major parts of the country are connected up.

All these mentioned lines must be highspeed, high density,
Double/multiple
track, electrified sections

MCT - BRC - RTM - KOTA - NDLS

MAS - BZA - NGP - BPL - JHS - AGC - MTJ - NDLS

NDLS - AMBALA - ASR/JAT

NDLS - JP - ABR - ADI - BRC - MCT

CSTM - NK - MMR - BSL - BPL - JHS - KANPUR - LKO

CSTM - NK - MMR - BSL - Jabalpur - Allahbad - VNS - Mughalsarai - PATNA

CSTM - NK - MMR - BSL - BD - NGP - RP - BSP - TATA - KGP - HWH

MAS - BZA - VSKP - BBS - KGP - HWH

NDLS - KANPUR - MUGHALSARAI - DHANBAD - HWH

NDLS - KANPUR - MUGHALSARAI - PATNA - BARAUNI - NJP - GHY - DIMAPUR

HWH - MALDA - NJP - GHY - DIMAPUR

CSTM - PUNE - SUR - WADI - GTL - DMM - SBC
CSTM - PUNE - SUR - WADI - HYD/SC
CSTM - PUNE - SUR - WADI - GTL - CDP - RN - MAS

HYB/SC - Kazipet (connects to N, S and E main lines here)

CSTM - PNVL - RN - MAO - MAQ - CLT - ERS - TVC

MAS - ED - CBE - ERS - TVC


Some of the lines are developed but some are in dire need of upgradation
eg
CSTM - PUNE - DD - SUR - WADI - GTL - MAS/SBC/HYB-SC

This network, I believe, services all major cities/areas of India and
can
link up tourist places well.

Rajan

From: Rajan Mathew <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 14 Jan 1999 19:29:58 -0500


It is the full rake for the Goa Express which is currently homed at
HUBLI
The Goa Express rnus upto Londa. After a 10 min halt in Londa it is
converted to the Londa Hubli Express and runs till UBL.

the board on the rake clearly says "Nizammuddin - Hubli"

Rajan

-----Original Message-----
From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <vbalasubramanian@noblestar.email
To: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
Cc: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: I'm back!


>> > The KK must hold the honor for the most tortured route of
>> any superfast
>> > express
>> > (Delhi bound or otherwise).
>>
>> A close second would be the 2779/2780 NZM-UBL Goa Express.
>> It goes like
>> this: Hubli - Pune (reverse) - Daund (reverse) - Manmad -
>> (change of power) -
>> then follow the same tracks as the KK towards Delhi. The
>> Pune - Miraj single
>
>I seem to recall a Londa-Hubli Exp. from the SCR timetable. Is this
nothing
>but a portion of the Goa Exp. that gets detached/attached at Londa?
>
>Vijay

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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: One eyed WDM 2

Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:14:42 -0500




Rajan Mathew wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> As Apurva puts it "there seems to be a pattern". Even I have not
confirmed
> this, but after observing numerous trains and engines, I believe that
IR has
> provided rolling stock to KR on lease, and the entire cocktail of
coaches
> and locos is due to this reason.
>
> I mentioned earlier that KR had only the II chaircar coaches with its
> characteristic brightblue livery. The Madgaon Express has sleper and
AC
> coaches as well. These are of the standard colour. Each coach seems to
be
> from different zones ie SR, CR, SE, SC, etc and it seems that these
zones
> have contributed "their share to KR". This is also the probable reason
why
> KR is using locos from such faraway sheds like Golden Rock rather than
sheds
> neare home like KYN, Further I believe that these locos are based in
KR
> section ie Ratnagiri and Madgaon.

This seems to be true - the DMU rake in Madgaon has South Central
markings, runs
on KR/SCR rails, is jointly owned by KR and the Govt. of Goa and is
operated by
KR staff whose have been borrowed from Solapur, Rajkot and Palghat
division.
Actually these are Keralite crowd who have opted out of their divisions
to be
stationed nearer to Kerala.
All this loco allocation mystery would be sorted out once the massive
diesel
shed comes online at Verna (maybe later this year) and all the trains
could be
powered by Verna locos. Does the KR traffic today or even in the future
justify
such a huge shed ? The structure of the shed can be seen in the DMU
pictures at
Verna on my webpage. These pics are from July 1997.
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm</A>

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:23:10 -0500


> I seem to recall a Londa-Hubli Exp. from the SCR timetable. Is this
nothing
> but a portion of the Goa Exp. that gets detached/attached at Londa?

It is Castle Rock and not Londa that is the transfer point.The full rake
used to
go to Hubli as the CLR - UBL passenger within minutes of the arrival of
the
'Super'. But I believe that the train is now officially the NZM -UBL Goa
Express. The rake is marked as NZM - UBL and junta from Pune use this
train to
get to and from Hubli regularly. Much better (and safer) than a rough 10
hour
bus ride !

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:43:47 -0500




Balasubramanian, Vijay wrote:

> > The train departs from SBC late in the evening. It had been a
> > while since
> > I made an overnight journey on a Diesel hauled train and it
> > was wonderful
> > to have Diesel exhaust waft in to the coach at night, not to
> > mention the
> > trademark sound of the the locos (which seems to travel quite
> > a distace at
> > night - ours was the 9th coach). After a good night sleep, the next
> > morning I woke up with the train at Hotgi waiting for Hussain Sagar
> > Express. A superfast express halted for crossing - it must be
> > the Madras -
> > Bombay trunk!
>
> The Hussain Sagar Exp. is a pathetic version of the classy Minar Exp.
that
> used to be superfast till the early 90s. The Minar Exp. was the ONLY
train
> in the single line Daund-Gangapur Rd. section that would not halt for
any
> crossings. In fact, the working TT indicates that the Karnataka Exp.
has a
> halt for the Minar Exp. crossing.

Minar was also the first train to run non stop 263 Kms. between Pune and
Solapur. One interesting driver link is the NDLS - SBC KK express staff
who
work the train from Manmad to Solapur via Daund without change. This is
the
longest continuos run of 425 Kms on a mostly single line track. On the
SBC -
NDLS journey, one set of drivers work the SUR - DD section while another
set of
drivers work the DD - MMR section. What is the longest run on the IR for
one
set of drivers - NDLS - BPL for Shatabdi ? What is the international
norm for
the drivers duty hours / mileage ?

Apurva

>
>
> >
> > During the return, we spent a few hours at Manmad as the KK
> > was 4 hours
> > late. Great opprtunity to watch a parade of trains, from Pushpak and
> > Gitanjali to WAG7 (with tiger strips) hauled freights. BTW,
>
> Do you remember whether the Pushpak Exp. was vestibuled? I would
assume
> that it would atleast have vestibuled coaches after being upgraded to
> superfast status.
>
> How about the Punjab Mail? Does it have vestibuled coaches?
>
> Vijay

From: poras p.saklatwalla <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 15 Jan 1999 02:01:56 -0500


On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Apurva Bahadur wrote:

> > I seem to recall a Londa-Hubli Exp. from the SCR timetable. Is this
nothing
> > but a portion of the Goa Exp. that gets detached/attached at Londa?
>
> It is Castle Rock and not Londa that is the transfer point.The full
rake used to
> go to Hubli as the CLR - UBL passenger within minutes of the arrival
of the
> 'Super'. But I believe that the train is now officially the NZM -UBL
Goa
> Express. The rake is marked as NZM - UBL and junta from Pune use this
train to
> get to and from Hubli regularly. Much better (and safer) than a rough
10 hour
> bus ride !
>
> Apurva
>
>
>

PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
TEL :5773535/3636
EXT :4226/4232/4237
\

Hi Appu,
I am a little confused about the whole thing. Goa express is a
superfast
to Goa (Madgaon) or Hubli. Does the whole BG rake go upto Madgaon or
Hubli ?

The route to Goa FROM PUNE IS
SATARA - SANGLI - KARAD - MIRAJ - BELGAUM - LONDA - CASTLE ROCK -
MADGAON.

Whilst HUBLI COMES ON THE WAY TO BANGALORE
PUNE- SATARA - SANGLI - KARAD - MIRAJ - BELGAUM - LONDA - DHARWWAR -
HUBLI.

THE ROUTE GETS BIFURCATED AT LONDA JN TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THEN
HOW
COME THE TRAIN GOES TO HUBLI ?

Appu I would be highly grateful if you can clarify this.

I also need to come to Pune for seeing this new WDP2 AND ONE EYED WDM 2
AND THE JUMBOS ? I AM TOTALLY LOST WITH YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND MESSAGES
ON
MAIL. I WILL INFORM YOU ABOUT THE DATES WHEN I INTEND COMING TO PUNE.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF 1ST WEEK OF FEB IS CONVENIENT.


PORAS :-)

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: I'm back!

Date: 15 Jan 1999 02:10:19 -0500




poras p.saklatwalla wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> > > I seem to recall a Londa-Hubli Exp. from the SCR timetable. Is
this nothing
> > > but a portion of the Goa Exp. that gets detached/attached at
Londa?
> >
> > It is Castle Rock and not Londa that is the transfer point.The full
rake used to
> > go to Hubli as the CLR - UBL passenger within minutes of the arrival
of the
> > 'Super'. But I believe that the train is now officially the NZM -UBL
Goa
> > Express. The rake is marked as NZM - UBL and junta from Pune use
this train to
> > get to and from Hubli regularly. Much better (and safer) than a
rough 10 hour
> > bus ride !
> >
> > Apurva
> >
> >
> >
>
> PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
> TEL :5773535/3636
> EXT :4226/4232/4237
> \
>
> Hi Appu,
> I am a little confused about the whole thing. Goa express is a
superfast
> to Goa (Madgaon) or Hubli. Does the whole BG rake go upto Madgaon or
> Hubli ?

The ghat between Londa (actually Castle Rock) and Kulem (Goa) is
converted to BG but
not yet opened for passenger traffic. Hence the Goa express goes to
Hubli. Mybe later
this year once the ghat is opened, we would finally have a NZM - VSG (or
MAO) express.

>
>
> The route to Goa FROM PUNE IS
> SATARA - SANGLI - KARAD - MIRAJ - BELGAUM - LONDA - CASTLE ROCK -
MADGAON.
>
> Whilst HUBLI COMES ON THE WAY TO BANGALORE
> PUNE- SATARA - SANGLI - KARAD - MIRAJ - BELGAUM - LONDA - DHARWWAR -
> HUBLI.
>
> THE ROUTE GETS BIFURCATED AT LONDA JN TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THEN
HOW
> COME THE TRAIN GOES TO HUBLI ?
>
> Appu I would be highly grateful if you can clarify this.
>
> I also need to come to Pune for seeing this new WDP2 AND ONE EYED WDM
2
> AND THE JUMBOS ? I AM TOTALLY LOST WITH YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND MESSAGES
ON
> MAIL. I WILL INFORM YOU ABOUT THE DATES WHEN I INTEND COMING TO PUNE.
> PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF 1ST WEEK OF FEB IS CONVENIENT.
>
> PORAS :-)

From: Donald L. Mills, Jr <>

Subject: Re: Virus Warning/URGENT

Date: 15 Jan 1999 04:08:45 -0500


This virus warning was circulated in the US around last August (1998)
There
is another one out there that says that you have won a contest. When
you
open this one it shows a package wrapped with many ribbons. When they
"unrap" a message appears and says that you have now unleased a virus
and
can't stop it. So you might want to be careful with these. I was told
that when it appears in your "In mail" files to delete it from there and
go
to your delete file and remove it from there also so that it won't be
open
in error. I have seen how it look when it is opened-it is very colorful
but
dangerous. A friend of my wife loaded it on a old computer just to see
what it would do. It didn't damage their "main" computer but destroyed
the
other one!
Don in WV
----------
> From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <smg@godrej.email
> To: SDeval@diageo-na.email
> Cc: ABHIJEET JOSHI <dhiru_bhai@hotmail.email Anand Damle
<anand.damle@in.email BHAVANA DEO <bhavanadeo@hotmail.email
Indian Rails <irfca@cs.email Pangan, Ferdinand x
<FxPangan@rasgas.email Prakash Apte <prakash.apte@abb.email
priti151@hotmail.email RISHIRAJ SRIVASTAVA <rishiraj@gto.email Sandeep
Gharat <sdgharat@hotmail.email Shekhar Sant <shekharsant@usa.email
SHEKHAR
VAIDYA <crvaidya@hotmail.email N Sudha <nsudha@hpcl.email SWAMINATHAN
IYER <siyer@uiah.email Uday Bidikar <bidikar@skynet.email YOGESH KHANOLKAR
<yogesh@MahindraBT.email
> Subject: Virus Warning/URGENT
> Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:27 PM
>
>
> Attention ...
>
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 11:00 AM
> Subject: WARNING!!!
>
> Someone on the Internet is sending out a very desirable screen-saver,
> called
> "The Budweiser Frogs". (BUDDYLST.ZIP) But if you download it, you
> will lose everything. Your hard drive will crash.
>
> DON'T DOWNLOAD THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!
>
> IT ONLY WENT INTO CIRCULATION YESTERDAY AS FAR AS WE KNOW, BUT BE
>
> CAREFUL. PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
>
> What the screensaver offers is looking like:
>
> File: BUDSAVER.EXE (24643 bytes)
>
> DL Time (28800 bps): 1 minute.
>
> If you download it, someone from the Internet will get your screen
name
> and password.
>
> Please send this on to any names you can think of and remember never
> download
> BUDDYLST.ZIP. This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people
> know about it. This information was announced yesterday morning from
> Microsoft.
> Please share it with everyone that might access the internet. Once
> again, pass this along to EVERYONE in your address book so that this
may
be
> stopped.
>
>
>
> Jim Gatsios.
>
> Associate Systems Administrator
> Siemens Research Pty Ltd
> Building 31C 885 Mountain Hwy, Bayswater 3153, Melbourne, Australia.
> tel: +61 3 9721 2486 mobile: +61 419 529 092 fax: +61 3 9721
2401
> email: Jim.Gatsios@sr.email <mailto:Jim.Gatsios@sr.email

From: Shankar <>

Subject: (no subject)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 05:57:17 -0500


Hello,
Oh, so thats where you got the pic!
It was one of my better pics. Actually, I' d sent it to Sunder at his
request several of my better pics. He had uploaded some of them on the
net. We exchanged one lot of pics in fact.
Unfortunately, the lab goofed somewhere, and some of the best pics ended
up with a yellow tinge, as if you were looking at them through a
yellow-stained glass.Although Sunder was very generous with his copious
compliments, I, as a photographer wasn't too pleased. Although I do it
as a hobby only, I do not like to compromise on quality: of the
photograph, of the print.Hence I did not pay much attention to the site.
Anyway, I'm delighted it was of some use to someone.
I don't have a scanner, unfortunately, nor do I know of anyone who will
let me use one.
So Annie and Apurva, feel free to use/download/post any of my pics to
anyone you please! No problem with me.
Cheers.
Shankar

From: Shankar <>

Subject: [Fwd: (no subject)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 05:58:49 -0500

From: Sankaran Kumar <>

Subject: Re: new Rajdhani.

Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:06:05 -0500



Does the new NDLS-Guwahati Rajdhani take the Hajipur-Bachwara chord?
Dheeraj has mentioned no halts between Hajipur and Barauni.

Kumar



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