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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Bailey yard

Date: 20 Nov 1998 00:44:48 -0500


Gang,

Check out this layout of the Bailey yard as sent by Annie.
<A HREF="http://www.uprr.com/uprr/ffh/history/bailey/byschem.shtml">http://www.uprr.com/uprr/ffh/history/bailey/byschem.shtml</A>
I do not think any yard in India is so colex and dense. All the
statistics mentioned in the site are awesome. Servicing 300 locos per
day !

Aourva

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: DREAM TRAINS (Mumbai-Howrah)

Date: 20 Nov 1998 06:20:00 -0500


>
> Hi Folks ,
>
>
> Talking about the topic odf dream trains , Why not everybody
> contribute at
> write about the trains they would like to see introduce/increased
> frequency/decrease running time.
>
> I'll start with few :
>
> 1. MUMBAI (CST/DDR/KLA) - MADRAS SUPER FAST EXP. DAILY
> 2. MUMBAI " " - PATNA S.F. EXP.. DAILY
> 3. MUMBAI - TRIVANDRUM S.F. EXP. DAILY
> 4. BCT - KALKA S.F. EXP DAILY .
> 5. SUPER DELUXE TRAINS BETWEEN MUMBAI(CST , KLA , DDR) AND
> SBC , TRIVANDRUM
> , MADRAS , LUCKNOW .
> 6. MUMBAI - GKP S.F. EXP VIA LUCKNOW DAILY.
> 7. ANOTHER S.F TRAIN OR MAKING ONE OF THE TRAINS A S.F
> BETWEEN MUMBIA - SBC
> , HYDERABAD/SEC.
> 8. MUMBAI - BARAUNI S.F EXP VIA VARANSAI , MUZZAFAPUR .DAILY
>
> 7. INCREASE IN FREQUENCY OF :
> 1. SWARAJ EXP. TO DAILY .
> 2. DDR- GUWHATI EXP TO DAILY .
>
>
> Any more ideas or suggestions ?
>
> regards ,
> Viral Desai.
>

I used to spend quite a bit of time designing fantasy trains to the
minutest
of details. Unfortuntely, most of my trains are from Mumbai or Varanasi
and
would probably never see the light of day, since Mumbai is not Delhi :-(
Most of the genuine superfast trains are from Delhi and the recent
superfasts from Mumbai have major flaws in them - nowhere close to what
I
had in mind. Anyway, here are my Mumbai-Howrah trains:

Mumbai CST - Howrah Bharat Exp. (Rajdhani-type exp.)
Halts: Igatpuri (technical halt), Bhusaval, Nagpur, Durg, Raurkela,
Tatanagar. Travel time - 29 1/2 hours (assuming that most of
Nagpur-Howrah
has been upgraded to 110 kmph.)

Since, the real train (Kurla-Howrah) is so pathetic, Pushkar and I are
hoping for a genuine Rajdhani-type train via Allahabad. Halts:
Igatpuri
(technical halt), Bhusaval, Itarsi (technical halt), Jabalpur,
Allahabad,
Mughalsarai, Gaya, Dhanbad. Travel time - 29 hrs. 15 mts. under present
track conditions. This train beats the superdeluxe by 3-4 hours.

Here is the schedule that Pushkar and I came up with.
************************************************************************
****
****************
SCHEDULE FOR KURLA-HOWRAH SUPERDELUXE EXP. (via ALD.)

/ - \ |
| \ - /

11 55 A KURLA TERMINUS D 16 30

9#22 D Igatpuri (# Tech Halt) A 18#55
9#17 A D 19#00

5 15 D Bhusaval A 22 45
5 00 A D 23 00

1#05 D Itarsi (# Tech Halt) A 2#48
0#58 A D 2#55

21 40 D Jabalpur A 6 00
21 30 A D 6 10

16 25 D Allahabad A 11 30
16 10 A D 11 45

14 25 D Mughalsarai A 13 45
14 15 A D 13 55

11 51 D Gaya A 15 52
11 48 A D 15 55

9 32 D Dhanbad A 18 22
9 27 A D 18 27

6 40 D HOWRAH A 21 45


SCHEDULE FOR KURLA-PATNA EXP.

Same as above between Kurla and Allahabad (runs on a different day)

/ - \ |
| \ - /

11 55 A KURLA TERMINUS D 16 30

16 25 D Allahabad A 11 30
16 05 A D 11 50

13 35 D Varanasi A 14 10
13 25 A D 14 20

10 10 D PATNA A 17 45


Locos used: WCAM3 between Kurla and Bhusaval (Kurla-Howrah/Patna)
WDM2 between Bhusaval and Allahabad (Kurla-Howrah)

WAP between Allahabad and Howrah (Kurla-Howrah)
WDM2 between Bhusaval and Patna (Kurla-Patna)

Note: The schedule for the Howrah/Patna -Kurla train could be shifted
to
harmonize with the arrival time of the 2102 Exp. at Kurla, namely, 14:00
hrs. This will not affect our proposed rake-sharing mechanism**.

************************************************************************
****
***

**Pushkar has proposed a neat rake sharing mechanism that can handle
the
present biweekly superdeluxe service from Kurla and our biweekly service
with just two rakes.

More dream trains to follow....


Vijay

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Niligiri page on the Redif site

Date: 20 Nov 1998 06:22:24 -0500


Gang !

Just been through the Redif page on the NRM.
Please refer the Nilgiri page:
<A HREF="http://www.redifindia.com/travel/sep/eng1.htm">http://www.redifindia.com/travel/sep/eng1.htm</A>
I can see the two (why two ?) brake valves for braking the train as the
X class pushed the trains and the guard (?) actually observes the track
in front while standing on this grand platform. What is the purpose of
the two (again why two ?) screw handles near the bannister ? If this is
not a powered car, why does it need a pinion for the rack. I think the
page writers are bullshitting us. Have you guys read the hilarious
specifications of the Shivalik coach on the IR official webpage:
<A HREF="http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/tourist/hill.html">http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/tourist/hill.html</A>

"Shivalik Palace (Tourist Coach)
For an exciting & charming
journey for the
elite class tourist between
Kalka & Shimla,
the Shivalik Palace (Tourist
Coach ) has an
board catering with an exclusive
range of
kitchen ware. Special features
include
decorative lights, musical
cordless bell,
music system, variety of indoor
games,
magazines & books, most
ultra-modern
amenity fittings in bathroom,
artificial
decorative plant, dinning table
with
beautiful cushioned chair,
folding beds etc.
Shivalik Palace is meant
normally for a party
of 6 persons. The fare is Rs.
8225 (both
ways). Meals are provided on
board as well
as two retiring rooms at Shimla
for one day. "

Please note that I never go anywhere without my artificial decorative
plants and my musical cordless bell - yup thats me !

Apurva

From: Madhav Acharya <>

Subject: Re: DREAM TRAINS (Mumbai-Howrah)

Date: 20 Nov 1998 06:57:45 -0500


Hi,

When IR introduces new trains (such as the new ones proposed here)
do they use some kind of software to figure out things like timings and
rake-sharing ? I wonder if CRIS does this kind of work apart from
computerizing
railway reservation systems ?

Madhav

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: More Rajdhani-type dream trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 07:20:29 -0500


After the spate of Rajdhanis/Shatabdis introduced in the last 5 years,
my
creations have turned towards such trains. Here are my Rajdhani-type
trains
(if someone is curious about the exact schedules I could email the
info.).

1. Mumbai CST - New Delhi Rajdhani Exp. via Bhopal, weekly,
Shares schedule with the Bharat Exp. between Mumbai and Bhusaval.
Up train shares schedules with the Chennai Rajdhani Exp. between
Nizamuddin and Itarsi
Halts: Bhusaval, Bhopal, Jhansi, Agra Cant
Running time - about 20 hours.

2. Mumbai CST - Aurangabad Shatabdi Exp., six days a week.
Halts: Nasik Rd. Hauled by WDM2 all the way.
Departs from Aurangabad in the morning and is back in the evening.
Running time - about 5 1/2 hours.

3. Mumbai CST - Bangalore City Bharat Exp. (Rajdhani-type), weekly
Halts: Pune, Solapur, Guntakal.
Running time - about 18 hours.

4. Mumbai CST - Chennai Central Bharat Exp., weekly
Shares schedules and rake with above train
Halts: Pune, Solapur, Guntakal, Renigunta
Running time - about 20 hours.

5. New Delhi - Howrah Rajdhani Exp. via Lucknow-Varanasi, weekly
Runs close to the Patna Rajdhani's schedule between New Delhi and
Varanasi.
Halts: Kanpur Central, Lucknow, Varanasi, Dhanbad, Asansol.
Has a technical halt at Mughalsarai for change of locos.
Running time : 18 3/4 - 19 1/2 hours

6. Howrah - Patna Shatabdi Exp., six days a week
Halts: Asansol, Jha Jha
Running time : about 7 hours


(the next two are modified versions of Pushkar's creations)

6. Mumbai Central - Jammu Tawi Bharat Exp. (Rajdhani-type), weekly
Halts: Surat, Vadodara, Ratlam, Kota, New Delhi, Ludhiana, Amritsar
Two reversals - at Amritsar and Bharoli (near Pathankot)
Running time - about 26 1/2 hours

7. Howrah - Jammu Tawi Bharat Exp., weekly
Shares schedules (between New Delhi and Jammu Tawi) and rake with
above
train
Halts: Dhanbad, Gaya, Mughalsarai, Allahabad, Kanpur Central, New
Delhi, Ludhiana, Amritsar
Running time : 27 - 27 1/2 hours


Non-Rajdhani trains:

8. Varanasi - Bangalore City Sangeet Exp. (name borrowed from Kumar!),
superfast, biweekly.
Halts: Mughalsarai, Dehri-on-Sone, Gaya, Gomoh, Mahuda, Purulia,
Tatanagar, Kharagpur, Cuttack, Bhubaneswar, Khurda Rd., Berhampur,
Vizianagaram, Visakhapatnam, Eluru, Vijayawada, Nellore, Gudur, Chennai
Central, Katpadi, Bangalore Cant
Running time : about 46 hours

9. Howrah - Varanasi Kailash Exp., superfast, four days a week
Halts: Asansol, Dhanbad, Gaya, Mughalsarai
Running time : about 9 hours

10. Howrah - Lucknow Tehzeeb Exp. (name borrowed from Pushkar),
superfast,
triweekly
Runs on non-Kailash days, shares schedules (between Howrah and
Varanasi)
and rakes with above train.
Halts: Asansol, Dhanbad, Gaya, Mughalsarai, Varanasi, Pratapgarh

11. Mumbai CST - Mysore Garden City Exp., superfast, biweekly
Halts: Pune, Miraj, Belgaum, Hubli, Birur, Bangalore City
Running time : about 25 hours


Vijay

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 07:51:21 -0500


Here are a few of the trains that I had designed a while back. Some of
them
have already come true although in a degraded form. Others are not
'practical' anymore since Rajdhani-type trains may take their place.

1. Bombay V.T. - Madras Central Mahasagar Exp., superfast, four days a
week
Dadar (Up. only), Pune, Solapur, Guntakal, Renigunta

2. Bombay V.T. - Bangalore City Lalbaug Exp., superfast, biweekly
Dadar (Up only), Pune, Solapur, Wadi, Guntakal, Dharmavaram

3. Bombay V.T. - Trivandrum Central Vivekananda Exp., superfast,
biweekly

Pune, Solapur, Wadi, Guntakal, Renigunta, Erode, Coimbatore,
Ernakulam
Town

1., 2. and 3. shared schedules - 1. and 2. in Up direction, 2. and 3. in
Dn
direction

4. Bombay V.T. - Nagpur Orange Exp., superfast, biweekly
Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Akola, Badnera

5. Bombay V.T. - Kalka Himnagri Exp., superfast, biweekly
Dadar (Up only), Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Itarsi, Bhopal, Jhansi, Agra
Cant, New Delhi, Panipat, Ambala Cant, Chandigarh

4. and 5. shared rakes

6. Bombay V.T. - Varanasi Malyiva Exp., superfast, triweekly
Dadar (Up only), Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Itarsi, Jabalpur, Allahabad

7. Bombay V.T. - Gorakhpur Raptinagri Exp., superfast, biweekly
Shares schedules and rakes with above train between Nasik Rd. and
Varanasi
(overtaken by my Bharat/Rajdhani Exp. at Nasik Rd.)
Dadar (Up only), Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Itarsi, Jabalpur, Allahabad,
Varanasi, Mau

8. Bombay V.T. - Patna Chanakya Exp. (name borrowed from Pushkar),
supefast,
triweekly
Shares schedules with above between Bombay and Satna
Dadar (Up only), Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Itarsi, Jabalpur, Satna,
Cheoki
(bypass Allahabad), Mughalsarai

9.Bombay V.T. - Guwahati Exp. via Howrah, superfast, biweekly
Nasik Rd., Manmad, Bhusaval, Akola, Nagpur, Gondia, Durg, Raipur,
Bilaspur, Jharsuguda, Raurkela, Tatanagar, Kharagpur, Howrah, via
Katwa-Azimganj...., Malda Town, Kishanganj, New Jalpaiguri, New
Coochbehar, New Bongaigaon, Rangiya

10. Bombay V.T. - Guwahati Exp. via Barauni, superfast, biweekly
Shares schedules (between Bombay and Bhusaval) and rakes with
above
Nasik Rd., Manmad, Bhusaval, Khandwa, Itarsi, Jabalpur, Satna,
Cheoki, Mughalsarai, Danapur, Patna, Barauni, Khagaria, Katihar,
Kishanganj,
New Jalpaiguri, New Coochbehar, New Bongaigaon, Rangiya

11. Bombay V.T. - New Bongaigaon - Guwahati Brahmaputra Exp. BG/MG,
superfast, biweekly
(one of my earliest fantasy trains. at that time
Barauni-Guwahati
and New Bongaigaon-Guwahati were still MG)
Bhusaval, Jabalpur, Allahabad, Varanasi, Patna, Bhagalpur, Malda
Tow,
New Jalpaiguri, ..change to MG at New Bongaigaon

Then I had all kinds of trains on WR (Bombay to Bhavnagar,Jodhpur,
Jaipur,
Udaipur requiring change to MG, Bombay to Kota, Bombay to Rajkot - all
superfast). I had a New Delhi - Varanasi superfast: Vidyalaya Exp.
with
halts at Kanpur Central and Allahabad only. It would use the
Mughalsarai
bypass.


Vijay

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: DREAM TRAINS

Date: 20 Nov 1998 07:58:24 -0500


>
> I'd like to see a Howrah-Hyderabad Shatabdi, so I can move
> back to India and
> work for my company's new Hyderabad branch, and visit my
> family for two days
> every couple of weekends instead of two weeks every three years. ;)

Atleast, you now have a superfast train between Secunderabad and Howrah
-
Falaknuma Exp. with a run-time of about 27 hours. Secunderabad used to
have
the superfast Minar Exp. to Bombay but that's been 'maligned' beyond
repair.


Vijay

From: VIRAL DESAI <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 08:23:30 -0500



WOULDN'T IT BE MORE PRACTICAL TO HAVE THIS TRAIN FROM BCT RATHER THEN
FROM
VT.
THIS WILL DEFINATELTAKE LESS TIME BETWEEN DELHI - BOMBAY.



>5. Bombay V.T. - Kalka Himnagri Exp., superfast, biweekly
> Dadar (Up only), Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Itarsi, Bhopal, Jhansi,
Agra
>Cant, New Delhi, Panipat, Ambala Cant, Chandigarh


CAN YOU ALSO SEND THE EXACT SHEDULE YOU DESIGNED ?

REGARDS
VIRAL.

From: VIRAL DESAI <>

Subject: Re: More Rajdhani-type dream trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 08:24:33 -0500



Hi Vijay ,

I would very muck like to have the info about the shedules of these as
well
as the other trains you have thought of .
would appreciate if you mail it .

Regards,

Viral


> After the spate of Rajdhanis/Shatabdis introduced in the last 5
years, my
>creations have turned towards such trains. Here are my Rajdhani-type
trains
>(if someone is curious about the exact schedules I could email the
info.).
>
>1. Mumbai CST - New Delhi Rajdhani Exp. via Bhopal, weekly,
> Shares schedule with the Bharat Exp. between Mumbai and Bhusaval.
> Up train shares schedules with the Chennai Rajdhani Exp. between
>Nizamuddin and Itarsi
> Halts: Bhusaval, Bhopal, Jhansi, Agra Cant
> Running time - about 20 hours.
>
>2. Mumbai CST - Aurangabad Shatabdi Exp., six days a week.
> Halts: Nasik Rd. Hauled by WDM2 all the way.
> Departs from Aurangabad in the morning and is back in the evening.
> Running time - about 5 1/2 hours.
>
>3. Mumbai CST - Bangalore City Bharat Exp. (Rajdhani-type), weekly
> Halts: Pune, Solapur, Guntakal.
> Running time - about 18 hours.
>
>4. Mumbai CST - Chennai Central Bharat Exp., weekly
> Shares schedules and rake with above train
> Halts: Pune, Solapur, Guntakal, Renigunta
> Running time - about 20 hours.
>
>5. New Delhi - Howrah Rajdhani Exp. via Lucknow-Varanasi, weekly
> Runs close to the Patna Rajdhani's schedule between New Delhi and
>Varanasi.
> Halts: Kanpur Central, Lucknow, Varanasi, Dhanbad, Asansol.
> Has a technical halt at Mughalsarai for change of locos.
> Running time : 18 3/4 - 19 1/2 hours
>
>6. Howrah - Patna Shatabdi Exp., six days a week
> Halts: Asansol, Jha Jha
> Running time : about 7 hours
>
>
>(the next two are modified versions of Pushkar's creations)
>
>6. Mumbai Central - Jammu Tawi Bharat Exp. (Rajdhani-type), weekly
> Halts: Surat, Vadodara, Ratlam, Kota, New Delhi, Ludhiana,
Amritsar
> Two reversals - at Amritsar and Bharoli (near Pathankot)
> Running time - about 26 1/2 hours
>
>7. Howrah - Jammu Tawi Bharat Exp., weekly
> Shares schedules (between New Delhi and Jammu Tawi) and rake with
above
>train
> Halts: Dhanbad, Gaya, Mughalsarai, Allahabad, Kanpur Central, New
>Delhi, Ludhiana, Amritsar
> Running time : 27 - 27 1/2 hours
>
>
>Non-Rajdhani trains:
>
>8. Varanasi - Bangalore City Sangeet Exp. (name borrowed from Kumar!),
>superfast, biweekly.
> Halts: Mughalsarai, Dehri-on-Sone, Gaya, Gomoh, Mahuda, Purulia,
>Tatanagar, Kharagpur, Cuttack, Bhubaneswar, Khurda Rd., Berhampur,
>Vizianagaram, Visakhapatnam, Eluru, Vijayawada, Nellore, Gudur, Chennai
>Central, Katpadi, Bangalore Cant
> Running time : about 46 hours
>
>9. Howrah - Varanasi Kailash Exp., superfast, four days a week
> Halts: Asansol, Dhanbad, Gaya, Mughalsarai
> Running time : about 9 hours
>
>10. Howrah - Lucknow Tehzeeb Exp. (name borrowed from Pushkar),
superfast,
>triweekly
> Runs on non-Kailash days, shares schedules (between Howrah and
Varanasi)
>and rakes with above train.
> Halts: Asansol, Dhanbad, Gaya, Mughalsarai, Varanasi, Pratapgarh
>
>11. Mumbai CST - Mysore Garden City Exp., superfast, biweekly
> Halts: Pune, Miraj, Belgaum, Hubli, Birur, Bangalore City
> Running time : about 25 hours
>
>
>Vijay
>
>

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 09:07:23 -0500


>
> WOULDN'T IT BE MORE PRACTICAL TO HAVE THIS TRAIN FROM BCT
> RATHER THEN FROM
> VT.
> THIS WILL DEFINATELTAKE LESS TIME BETWEEN DELHI - BOMBAY.

You are absolutely correct. This train was designed way back in the
early
80s when there was no decent Bombay-Delhi train via CR but a bunch of
good
ones existed on WR. The train was supposed to bridge that gap to some
extent. I did have a BCT-Kalka train that was medium-fast - designed to
bridge the gap between the Frontier/Paschim superfasts and the
BCT-Firozpur/Dehra Dun crawlers.


>
> >5. Bombay V.T. - Kalka Himnagri Exp., superfast, biweekly
> > Dadar (Up only), Nasik Rd., Bhusaval, Itarsi, Bhopal,
> Jhansi, Agra
> >Cant, New Delhi, Panipat, Ambala Cant, Chandigarh
>
>
> CAN YOU ALSO SEND THE EXACT SHEDULE YOU DESIGNED ?

I don't think I have the schedule on paper. If I recall, this would
leave
Bombay V.T. at ~11.00 am and reach New Delhi at ~9.00 am the next day,
and
then arrive at Kalka around 2.00 pm. In the return direction, it would
leave Kalka around 10.00 am to reach Bombay V.T. at ~3.00 pm.
Initially, Panipat was not in my halt list. Later on, I also added
Gwalior.

>
> REGARDS
> VIRAL.
>

Vijay

From: VIRAL DESAI <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 10:21:02 -0500




>>
>> WOULDN'T IT BE MORE PRACTICAL TO HAVE THIS TRAIN FROM BCT
>> RATHER THEN FROM
>> VT.
>> THIS WILL DEFINATELTAKE LESS TIME BETWEEN DELHI - BOMBAY.
>
>You are absolutely correct. This train was designed way back in the
early
>80s when there was no decent Bombay-Delhi train via CR but a bunch of
good
>ones existed on WR. The train was supposed to bridge that gap to some
>extent. I did have a BCT-Kalka train that was medium-fast - designed
to
>bridge the gap between the Frontier/Paschim superfasts and the
>BCT-Firozpur/Dehra Dun crawlers.
>
>
What I had in mind was a superfast train in the category of TN exp .
Like
departing at at about 1030 am arr. NDLS at 6AM net day reaching Kalka
at
about 1030 or 1100 am .

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: KR time table?

Date: 20 Nov 1998 11:40:25 -0500


> folks,
>
> is there some site out there where i can get the
> konkan railway time table from?
>
> thanks
> -karthikraju.
>
There used to be a site:
<A HREF="http://www.goenkar.com/info/schedules/krail.html">http://www.goenkar.com/info/schedules/krail.html</A>
but the link is not valid anymore. You could try using the online
timetable
from the <A HREF="http://www.indianrailway.com/railway">http://www.indianrailway.com/railway</A> page.

Vijay

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 18:08:01 -0500



Hi Vijay,

How about an "INTERNATIONAL EXPRESS" from Bombay to either Lahore or
Karachi.

Think about it. (Oops will the train be allowed in our Mumbai or
Maharashtra?)

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: Sankaran Kumar <>

Subject: Re: More Rajdhani-type dream trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 18:59:10 -0500



Vijay:


>

>Non-Rajdhani trains:
>
>8. Varanasi - Bangalore City Sangeet Exp. (name borrowed from Kumar!),
>superfast, biweekly.
> Halts: Mughalsarai, Dehri-on-Sone, Gaya, Gomoh, Mahuda, Purulia,
>Tatanagar, Kharagpur, Cuttack, Bhubaneswar, Khurda Rd., Berhampur,
>Vizianagaram, Visakhapatnam, Eluru, Vijayawada, Nellore, Gudur, Chennai
>Central, Katpadi, Bangalore Cant
> Running time : about 46 hours

I would replace the Eluru halt with one at Rajahmundry (bigger town). I

wonder if one can break up the train at Gudur, with the SBC part going
off via Renigunta. It would avoid a reversal at MAS.


>
>11. Mumbai CST - Mysore Garden City Exp., superfast, biweekly
> Halts: Pune, Miraj, Belgaum, Hubli, Birur, Bangalore City
> Running time : about 25 hours

Have you considered by-passing SBC? Using the Arsikere-Hasan-Mysore
route. It is much shorter.
>
>
>Vijay

Also Faluknama Express is no longer superfast. Only the Coromandel
retains superfast status.

Kumar


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From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Re: Niligiri page: Apurva

Date: 20 Nov 1998 19:37:17 -0500


> <A HREF="http://www.redifindia.com/travel/sep/eng1.htm">http://www.redifindia.com/travel/sep/eng1.htm</A>
> I can see the two (why two ?) brake valves for braking the train as
the
> X class pushed the trains and the guard (?) actually observes the
track
> in front while standing on this grand platform. What is the purpose of
> the two (again why two ?) screw handles near the bannister ? If this
is
> not a powered car, why does it need a pinion for the rack.
I do not know about the doubling of the handbrakes, but I suspect
that one would brake the train wheels and the other would brake
the pinion independently. I have seen the car and it does have
a pinion without being powered. Safety, I guess.

On the Rediff NRM page the single thing that really
put me off was the identification of the DHR B-class
loco as a Sentinel. I wrote to them long back about it,
received a graceful apology, but they never corrected
it. Ah, well....

It's a real delight to see this list getting so active !

--
Jayant S
--

From: Vivek Prakash <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 20:00:32 -0500


Hi All,
I'm very keen on seeing a CSTM-Madgaon Shatabdi service introduced --
with halts at Panvel and Ratnagiri. WDM2 hauled all the way?
Anyone want to take a shot at the running time/timetable for such a
train?

Vivek.

From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: Re: More Rajdhani-type dream trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 20:10:26 -0500


On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Balasubramanian, Vijay wrote:
>
> 11. Mumbai CST - Mysore Garden City Exp., superfast, biweekly
> Halts: Pune, Miraj, Belgaum, Hubli, Birur, Bangalore City
> Running time : about 25 hours
> Vijay


Hi!

It seems your last dream has seen the light of the day, already there is
train from Mumbai to Mysore. Recently introduced,it leaves CST on
Tuesdays
& from Arsikere it takes it's route to Mysore. It takes the same
timings,
that of Mumbai-Banglore (Via-Miraj,Hubli)upto Arsikere. On the return
leg it
leaves Mysore on Fridays at 6:00 in the morning & from Arsikere takes
the
same timings that of the Banglore - Mumbai Exp.


Hope, other ones also come true one by one.

Shrinivas

From: SHRINIVAS V. JOSHI <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 20:24:32 -0500


On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, VIRAF P.. MULLA wrote:

>
> Hi Vijay,
>
> How about an "INTERNATIONAL EXPRESS" from Bombay to either Lahore or
> Karachi.
>
> Think about it. (Oops will the train be allowed in our Mumbai or
> Maharashtra?)

Hi!

Viraf,

Why not,? only invite HIM on the inaugural run.

Shrinivas

From: VIRAL DESAI <>

Subject: Re: More Rajdhani-type dream trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 20:55:04 -0500





>>>Non-Rajdhani trains:
>>
>>8. Varanasi - Bangalore City Sangeet Exp. (name borrowed from Kumar!),
>>superfast, biweekly.
>> Halts: Mughalsarai, Dehri-on-Sone, Gaya, Gomoh, Mahuda, Purulia,
>>Tatanagar, Kharagpur, Cuttack, Bhubaneswar, Khurda Rd., Berhampur,
>>Vizianagaram, Visakhapatnam, Eluru, Vijayawada, Nellore, Gudur,
Chennai
>>Central, Katpadi, Bangalore Cant
>> Running time : about 46 hours
>
>I would replace the Eluru halt with one at Rajahmundry (bigger town).
I
>wonder if one can break up the train at Gudur, with the SBC part going
>off via Renigunta. It would avoid a reversal at MAS.



Hi
yeah That would be more suitable to have a stop at rajahmundry . But I
wonder Why the stop at Khurda Rd. Is it a big city that it should have
stop
of all the trains or is it because Puri line is bifurcated from here ,
so as
to make it is for persons travelling from/to Puri .
Also instead of going to MAS we can have a train striaght going to SBC
without touching MAS weekly and other day of the week it can go to MAS .
This will avoid breaking up of the train at Gudur.

Viral

>

From: VIRAL DESAI <>

Subject: Re: More fantasy trains

Date: 20 Nov 1998 20:56:12 -0500



Hi


How about such a train from New Delhi If Mumbai king does not allow it ?


>
>Hi Vijay,
>
>How about an "INTERNATIONAL EXPRESS" from Bombay to either Lahore or
>Karachi.
>
>Think about it. (Oops will the train be allowed in our Mumbai or
>Maharashtra?)
>
>==========================
>Viraf Mulla
>C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
>Borivali (West)
>Mumbai 400103
>Tel: +91-22-8954510
>E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
>==========================
>
>

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