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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Visit to the station

Date: 24 Oct 1998 23:53:58 -0500




Apurva Bahadur wrote:

> Gang !
>
> Just back from the station to pick up some guests arriving for the
> holiday season. I saw a Guntakal WDM 2 with a number '17660R'. There
was
> nothing unusual about the loco but this is the first time I have seen
> the number of a loco with an addition. Anyone with a clue to the
> additional 'R'. I asked the assistant driver about the 'R' and he told
> me seriously that 'R' probably stood for 'Railways'. I gave up
instantly
> any further attempt to derive knowledge from him.
> Usually a derivative of a loco will have an additional letter it its
> type text like WDM 2A or a WAM 4P.

I forgot to add - this 'R' loco had unique handles of the engine and
generator doors. Normally the WDM 2 has a protruding handle which has to
be
turned left about 30 degrees to unlock and then the door can be opened.
This
loco had flush door handles - a finger would have to be inserted below
the
handle and lifted upwards - then the door could be swung open. Maybe 'R'
stood for 'recessed' !

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: More Plinthed locos

Date: 25 Oct 1998 22:17:50 -0500


>
>
> I still have vivid memories of Bombay Mail via Nagpur departing Howrah
> in the evening behind a WP/P. Or 81up AC Express speeding through
Andal
> Jn. or Koderma behind a WP painted in the same color scheme as the
rake.

Jishnu,

Can you elaborate on the livery of the rake and indeed the loco colours.
I
have seen only Black WPs (in pictures) sometimes with a Red nose
(Sonepur
shed) and some locos with some green trimmings (like Jhansi shed)

Apurva

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: More Plinthed locos

Date: 25 Oct 1998 23:52:59 -0500



A Matheran Tank is plinthed in the Parel Loco Shed.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: WP livery

Date: 26 Oct 1998 00:04:53 -0500


>
> Can you elaborate on the livery of the rake and indeed the loco
colours. I
> have seen only Black WPs (in pictures) sometimes with a Red nose
(Sonepur
> shed) and some locos with some green trimmings (like Jhansi shed)
>
> Apurva

Western railway WPs used be brown and black.

==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
==========================

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Accident at Nalasopara

Date: 26 Oct 1998 00:41:26 -0500


Gang !
This accident happened last week in Mumbai.

The western rail corridor is 4 lines (2 slow - 2 fast) wide from Churchgate till Borivali and then 2 lines wide upto Virar. After Virar the traction voltage changes to 25 KV towards North (Gujarath) and thus Virar is the last stop for 1.5 KV DC EMUs.
Nalasopara is a small station between Borivali and Virar. Due to the extreme rush some passengers were sitting in the door of the EMUs with their feet hanging out. Their feet struck some unlaid concrete sleepers (cross ties for our American friends) which were piled three in a stack. At least eight people died when they were violently pulled out of the speeding train and many others were seriously injured. It is a tragic, totally avoidable accident which point out to the misery of living in Mumbai and the pressure that the suburban services operate in.

Point to be noted:

Lot of Mumbai EMU travelers sit in the door with their feet hanging out. They have been doing this for many years without a mishap. Humid hot weather and extreme crowds are some of the reasons for their seating position
Concrete sleepers were distributed by a departmental works train to replace the aging wooden sleepers.
EMU services are stopped between 0200 Hours and 0400 hours in some sections. This the period in which the maintenance work is carried out.
It is common to see 'yet to be laid' concrete sleepers by the side of  the tracks.
I have never seen a three deep stack of sleeper - they normally are single. This situation was an exception
Department says that the clearance to the carriage width was maintained when the sleepers were unloaded. This is correct - no  part of the train touched the sleepers.
It took almost two hours for the emergency services to come to the rescue of the victims due to a communication gap and lack of equipment.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Dual Voltage EMUs

Date: 26 Oct 1998 02:12:48 -0500


Gang !

This is with reference to the imminent 25 KV electrification of Mumbai
area. There are plans to introduce AC - DC EMUs to take care of the
period of transition.

I was just wondering how a dual voltage EMU would look like. A 'normal'
EMU consist of a driving car, a trailer car and a power car. This three
car unit is repeated three or four times to make the classic 9 car -
newly introduced 12 car formation. The power car contains the panto and
the traction motors. What will be power car of a dual voltage EMU be
like ?
Will it have two pantos ? Will it drop and raise the panto in run like a
WCAMx class loco or will the change over of the voltage occur at the
switchgear stage ? The 'neutral' section as at Virar (between 1.5 KV and
the 25 KV section) would have to accommodate the entire train !
I think an 'Igatpuri' style solution where the like is charged to a
different voltage
is better.
It has to be done at a station where all EMUs stop like Borivali -
Andheri - Bandra.

One interesting procedure from the times the WR had just introduced the
12 car formation - Stations such as Elphiston Road the platform length
was not sufficient to berth a 12 car rake. Hence the 1st 9 coaches would
stop on the platform first - then after the period of the halt the front
end would move out of the platform to allow the rear 3 coached to come
on to the platform. I suppose by now the platforms would all be
lengthened to accommodate a 12 car rake in one go. I have not seen this
procedure but read the public notice which warned the public that the
train would stop twice and the passengers in the rear should wait for
the train to stop at the platform.

Apurva

From: ranand <>

Subject: Accident near Solapur?

Date: 26 Oct 1998 05:20:34 -0500


My brother recently travelled from Bangalore to Pune by the "Kurla"
(as the Bangalore Kurla express is colloquially called). The train
was five hours later reaching Pune as there was some accident on the
line. My brother said that he saw passenger coaches lying on the ground
near the tracks somewhere near Solapur. Some know-it-all in the coach
told me brother that it was the Mumbai Secunderabad express which had
derailed. any news on what happened?

I would also add that talking to such know-it-alls is one of the
pleasures
of
travelling by train in India. These are the people who always come up
with
some explanation for every strange event ("We are stopped at the outer
to
let the mail pass"). In my experience, they usually talk nonsense but
know
just enough
jargon to sound knowledgeable. Such people need very little incentive to
keep talking for hours on end and make journeys fun.

Anand

Internet: anand@watson.email
External tel: (914) 784 7054
Notes: Rangachari Anand/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
Tie-line: 863 7054

From: Sridhar Shankar <>

Subject: Re: Visit to the station

Date: 26 Oct 1998 07:11:20 -0500


Apurva,

In the past the 'R' indicated a prototype or some thing under
development
at RSDO or some such place. In fact the prototype of the WAP1 was the
WAM4R.
However, in this case the R is attached to the fleet number and not the
model type, and the implications are not quite clear, and may be
'recessed' is the answer!

-Sridhar
****************************************************************

Sridhar Shankar 1616 E. 50th Place, Apt.13A
GSB'99 Chicago, IL 60615
University of Chicago (773) 752 1131
*****************************************************************

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Apurva Bahadur wrote:

>
>
> Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> > Gang !
> >
> > Just back from the station to pick up some guests arriving for the
> > holiday season. I saw a Guntakal WDM 2 with a number '17660R'. There
was
> > nothing unusual about the loco but this is the first time I have
seen
> > the number of a loco with an addition. Anyone with a clue to the
> > additional 'R'. I asked the assistant driver about the 'R' and he
told
> > me seriously that 'R' probably stood for 'Railways'. I gave up
instantly
> > any further attempt to derive knowledge from him.
> > Usually a derivative of a loco will have an additional letter it its
> > type text like WDM 2A or a WAM 4P.
>
> I forgot to add - this 'R' loco had unique handles of the engine and
> generator doors. Normally the WDM 2 has a protruding handle which has
to be
> turned left about 30 degrees to unlock and then the door can be
opened. This
> loco had flush door handles - a finger would have to be inserted below
the
> handle and lifted upwards - then the door could be swung open. Maybe
'R'
> stood for 'recessed' !
>
> Apurva
>
>
>

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Accident near Solapur?

Date: 26 Oct 1998 07:29:24 -0500





> told me brother that it was the Mumbai Secunderabad express which had
> derailed. any news on what happened?

I do remember that there was a derailment sometime back - not sure
whether
that was 31 Down. No one died so no big news. News is when trains get
canceled
due to derailment or people get hurt - worst there are deaths. The low
standard of maintenance means that derailments are frequent. Prevention
of
derailments is one reason our trains do not run faster than 105 Kms
/hour on
an average. Almost any run (specially from the footplate) will show you
toppled wagons somewhere in the route. Part of the reason that the
coaches are
seen is that the IR finds it more economical to scarp the derailed wagon
than
to try and recover it. The priority is always to clear the line.
One of my driver friends once assisted in recovering a derailed train
(in the
TGR 1 catch siding in the Thull ghat, south of Igatpuri) carrying animal
feed
and live chickens. The stink that the derailed rake raised put him off
food -
so much that he actually lost weight. The railways gave him a
commendation for
working almost non stop , round the clock in bad weather till the line
was
cleared for traffic.

Did the gang know that the high speed tracks such as New Delhi- Gwalior
are
laid to a tighter gauge that the usual 5'6". It is marginally /
fractionally
smaller in gauge to permit fast trains to run. I was informed by Mr. Jal
Daboo
when he was in India last that laying a fast track with slightly smaller
gauge
is a standard practice in Europe. Any confirmations ?

> These are the people who always come up with
> some explanation for every strange event ("We are stopped at the outer
to
> let the mail pass").

Anand - that sounds like me !

Apurva

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Hello Railway Friends

Date: 26 Oct 1998 09:07:38 -0500


Dear Friends,
                          My name is Harsh Vardhan and  Iam 29. My love for railway dates to as far as my memory extends into my childhood. I have a special liking for BG locos, Freighters, Pacifics and articulated locomotives though it does not in any case goes to say that I like any other steam loco any less. I have a passing admiration for electric locos but almost abhor the sight of a diesel(WDM 4 is an exception) as to my mind it was they who were responsible for ending of the steam era. But generally speaking, I love everything that is a part of the railways. I collect time-tables, travel tickets, railway maps, videos and books.
 
Iam an electrical engineer with a foray into mechanical enineering. Iam into Process Heating/chilling and product drying. That ensures that Iam with boilers and steam even on work. Although Iam not professionally associated with the railways in any way, my association with the railways is very old and Iam perhaps the oldest(attended at the museum's inauguration) and the most frequent visitor to the National Railway Museum except for perhaps the employees !
 
With an idea to convert this enthusiasm into some positive action, I formed the `Friends of the National Rail Museum' with a lot of help and support from Bill Aitken and Ashwani Lohani, the then Director of  the NRM, in November 1997. Our growth has been steady and promising since and we are able to produce a quarterly Newsletter(which I edit) apart from other activities which I wll keep you briefed about in due course.
 
Well friends, these are my credentials. Iam thankful to Mr. S. Shankar and Mr. Viraf Mulla for introducing me to irfca. I look forward to becoming a member and be a part of the network.
 
Regards,
 

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Accident near Solapur?

Date: 26 Oct 1998 10:02:29 -0500


> told me brother that it was the Mumbai Secunderabad express which had
> derailed. any news on what happened?

I do remember that there was a derailment sometime back - not sure
whether that was 31 Down /32 Up. No one died so no big news. News is
when trains get canceled due to derailment or people get hurt - worst
where there are deaths. The low standard of maintenance means that
derailments are frequent. Prevention of derailments is one reason our
trains do not run faster than 105 Kms /hour on an average. Almost any
run (specially from the footplate) will show you toppled wagons
somewhere in the route. Part of the reason that the coaches are seen is
that the IR finds it more economical to scarp the derailed wagon than to
try and recover it. The priority is always to clear the line.
One of my driver friends once assisted in recovering a derailed train
(in the TGR 1 catch siding in the Thull ghat, south of Igatpuri)
carrying animal feed and live chickens. The stink that the derailed rake
raised put him off food - so much that he actually lost weight. The
railways gave him a commendation for working almost non stop , round the
clock in bad weather till the line was cleared for traffic.

Did the gang know that the high speed tracks such as New Delhi- Gwalior
are laid to a tighter gauge that the usual 5'6". It is marginally /
fractionally smaller in gauge to permit fast trains to run. I was
informed by a senior& very much more learned Jal Daboo when he was in
India last that laying a fast track with slightly smaller gauge
is a standard practice in Europe. Any confirmations ?

> These are the people who always come up with
> some explanation for every strange event ("We are stopped at the outer
to
> let the mail pass").

Anand - that sounds like me !

Apurva

From: C.L.Zeni <>

Subject: Re: Accident near Solapur?

Date: 26 Oct 1998 10:11:34 -0500


Apurva Bahadur wrote:
snip
> Did the gang know that the high speed tracks such as New Delhi-
Gwalior are
> laid to a tighter gauge that the usual 5'6". It is marginally /
fractionally
> smaller in gauge to permit fast trains to run. I was informed by Mr.
Jal Daboo
> when he was in India last that laying a fast track with slightly
smaller gauge
> is a standard practice in Europe. Any confirmations ?

In the past, the old Pennsylvania RR here in the US had many places
where it was four tracks/roads wide. The outer two were freight/goods,
the inner two were passenger; one of each in each direction. The PRR
found that if they gauged the goods road at 4'9" (ie a bit wide) that it
made a noticable reduction in rolling resistance thus allowing longer
trains for a given locomotive, though it did increase 'hunting';
conversely they gauged the passenger roads at 4'8" (a bit narrow) that
it significantly reduced the side-to-side 'hunting' of the passenger
cars at the expense of higher rolling resistance though for passenger
trains this was not terribly important...this practice ended many years
ago, though.
--
Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com

We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Smart?

From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: More Plinthed locos

Date: 26 Oct 1998 11:57:45 -0500


Apurva Bahadur wrote:
> > I may very well be wrong on this one, but my recollection is that it
is
> > from the now defunct Howrah - Amta Light Railway.
> >
> > > I just remembered - Bhusawal has plinthed an entire WP !
> >
> > That shows excellent taste. In my opinion the WP is one of the most
> > beautiful locomotives ever to run on the Indian Railways.
>
> May I second that - should we change that to one of the most beautiful
> locomotives ever to run anywhere in the world?

Definitely. They come from the very fine Baldwin pedigree, and many of
their cousins ran on vrious railways in the US for many years.

> > I still have vivid memories of Bombay Mail via Nagpur departing
Howrah
> > in the evening behind a WP/P. Or 81up AC Express speeding through
Andal
> > Jn. or Koderma behind a WP painted in the same color scheme as the
rake.
> > It was a sight to behold.
>
> Where was this loco homed and till where did this loco run to - Howrah
-
> Mughal Sarai ?,

Howrah - Mughal Sarai, and I think it was homed in Howrah, though I am
not sure about that.

> Howrah - Asansol ? What is the modern name and number of
> 81Up AC Express ?

It is now the Poorva Express with whatever new 4 digit number it has
(2081?)

> Can you elaborate on the livery of the rake and indeed the loco
colours. I
> have seen only Black WPs (in pictures) sometimes with a Red nose
(Sonepur
> shed) and some locos with some green trimmings (like Jhansi shed)

These are memories from ~30 years back, so they may not be exactly
accurate. Having said that, one vivid memory that I have is of the AC
Express passing through Koderma behind a WP which had its tender
coloured the same as the rake. The colour of the rake was similar to the
Rajdhani rakes these days. It was then one of the spanking new integral
rakes with one of those neat two coach AC dining car sets. The entire
train was just 10 cars long I think. I don't remeber if the special
livery coninue from the tender forward onto the main locomotive. The
front had a cream and red design as I recall.

Jishnu.

--
Jishnu Mukerji
Systems Architect
Advanced Development
Enterprise Internet Solution Center
Enterprise Systems Group

Email: jis@fpk.email Hewlett-Packard New Jersey Labs,
Tel: +1 973 443 7528 300 Campus Drive, 2E-62,
Fax: +1 973 443 7422 Florham Park, NJ 07932, USA.

From: Prakash Tendulkar <>

Subject: Dual Voltage EMUs

Date: 26 Oct 1998 13:11:16 -0500


> I was just wondering how a dual voltage EMU would look like.
> A 'normal' EMU consist of a driving car, a trailer car and a
> power car. This three car unit is repeated three or four
> times to make the classic 9 car - newly introduced 12 car
> formation. The power car contains the panto and the traction
> motors. What will be power car of a dual voltage EMU be
> like ?

Apurva,

The "power car" is also known as Motor coach. In current DC
configuration, it contains panto, MG (Motor Generator), RPC
(Resistance Power Control), traction motors, Air compressor
and battery compartment. Except panto and RPC, all others
are under the carriage.

RPC and panto are located at opposing ends of the motorcoach,
panto above the roof, RPC on the frame of the carriage, has
one door for accessing driving equipment and to access MCBs
(Master Circuit Breakers) plus one small window for viewing
tracks (if used on the front end for shunting in car shed)

DC power from panto goes to three sources separately, RPC,
MG and Air compressor. RPC contains air operated circuit
breakers to connect motors in series, series parallel or
parallel plus changing the resistance gradually. RPC
catches fire at times, especially in hot weather and too
many start stops.

From what I understand, AC/DC EMUs will allow existing DC
EMUs to be converted into AC/DC models, few EMUs at a time
and the final change will occur once for entire suburban
section. Looking at this picture, the AC compartment would
consist auto transformer, rectifier and air operated circuit
breakers to make series - parallel connections; separate tap
and rectifier for MG and air compressor. In short more or
less like WCAM1.

Running them like WCAM1 should normally pose no problems,
motorman can lower all pantos before entering dead section
and raise them again later. Only a new sign will have to be
added "EMUs raise panto" to ensure that all 12 coaches have
passed the dead zone. Some modifications would be needed like
adding a dual voltage voltmeter, relocation of MCBs to lower
pantos, and Air compressors and to restart them. Currently,
while doing this, motorman cannot see where the train is
headed to and there is no voltmeter to measure line voltage.

Now catch - 22. If by any chance, the auxiliary cables between
the driving cab and the last motorcoach have become loose or
have bad connection, that panto will not lower down, even though
the other two have been lowered. Normally, such situation can be
avoided if all the indicator lamps in driving cabs are functional.
Unfortunately, the headlamp, tail lamp and lamp inside the
cab are the only functional lights in EMUs in Mumbai.

Prakash

From: poras p.saklatwalla <>

Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THE LIST

Date: 26 Oct 1998 19:50:11 -0500


Dear Friends,
I am going on one months leave for marriage, therefore please
unsubscribe
me from the list, till 1st December.

Thanks,


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From: Dheeraj Sanghi <>

Subject: help needed.

Date: 26 Oct 1998 22:50:58 -0500


For members in US only:

There is one young officer in Northern Railway (Allahabad)
with whom I interact to get information once in a while.
Today morning, he called me to seek some help, and was
wondering if folks on IRFCA could be of some help.

He is being sent to Univ of British Columbia, Vancouver, for
a one-month course/training. After the course, he and his wife
plan to spend 2 weeks in US travelling to some places of tourist
attraction. The places are likely to include San Francisco,
Orlando, Washington DC, New York city, and Niagara Falls.

He would obviously like to save on his expenses. He was
wondering if someone can help them find a paying guest
accomodation or an inexpensive motel (but definitely close to
public transport). They will stay for 2-3 days in each city.

If you are willing to help, please let me know. I will pass on
your name/phone number to him, and he will get in touch with you.
He leaves India this weekend, and will be in Vancouver till 28th Nov.
or so. He would like to travel in US from around 29th Nov. till 12th
Dec.

Thanks,

-dheeraj
--------------
Dr. Dheeraj Sanghi (0512) 59-7077/7638
(Off)
Dept. of Computer Science & Engineering (0512) 59-8627 (Res)
Indian Institute of Technology (0512) 59-0725/0413
(Fax)
Kanpur - 208 016 (UP), INDIA. dheeraj@iitk.email
Home Page: <A HREF="http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj">http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj</A>

From: Prakash Tendulkar <>

Subject: Thief tosses girl out of running train in Bombay

Date: 27 Oct 1998 18:26:31 -0500


Thief tosses girl out of running train in Bombay

The Bombay railway police have launched massive combing
operations on all Western Railway stations to nab a pickpocket
who threw a college girl out of a running train on Monday.

Twenty-three-year-old Jaymala Asher lost her feet in the
incident. Under treatment at Nair hospital, she described the
thief as dark, thin, around 5 feet 2 inches, round-faced and with
trim hair. Aged about 30, he was wearing a dirty white t-shirt
and black jeans.

Jaymala, a south Bombay resident, boarded the 0545 hours Borivili
slow local to Malad, where she attended the MD Shah women's
college. Soon as she settled in a seat, the culprit approached
her demanding money. When she refused, he dragged her to the door
and flung her out of the train.

The Charni Road stationmaster informed the railway police, who
admitted her to the hospital. She was bleeding profusely and the
skin had completely peeled off her legs. The tendons below the
shins on both legs were exposed, leaving the doctors no option
but to amputate.

Hospital sources said Jaymala's condition was now stable.

Bombay Central Railway Police Inspector Vajpayee said drug
addicts along the tracks from Charni Road to Bombay Central were
taken before Jaymala for identification. Superintendent of Police
(Railway) K Ramachandran said the culprit is probably a drug
addict. ''Hopefully, we will get him by today or tomorrow,'' he
said.

He admitted that stone-throwing incidents are on the rise along
Western Railway tracks and said uniformed personnel would be
deputed to patrol the ladies compartments early mornings and late
nights.

UNI

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Thief tosses girl out of running train in Bombay

Date: 27 Oct 1998 23:17:40 -0500


This is one of the stomach turning tales which again point out to the
misery of Mumbai rather than a problem on the IR. I can only feel
enraged that such incidents actually happen. A traveler on a train is a
very soft target and many petty criminals know this well. There was time
around one year that one train was being held and robbed EVERY DAY in
Bihar. The speculation was that this was politically motivated - may be
true -the incidents stopped as fast as they started. Then there was a
spate of robberies on trains leaving Kurla Terminus. This too was almost
a daily occurrence. The crime was committed in all hours (even at noon
time !) between CLAT and Vidyavihar when the train before the train
joined the CR mainline.

Apurva


Prakash Tendulkar wrote:

> Thief tosses girl out of running train in Bombay

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Some drawings of Alco locos

Date: 28 Oct 1998 09:02:10 -0500


Hi Gang !

I found a 1961 manual of MLW locos RS 30 & RSD 30. It is not complete
but the drawings and most of the sections are complete. I will soon scan
and upload text but just to give you a preview I am putting the
engineering drawings and a pic of the locos. As you can see this is the
ancestor of our Meter Gauge YDM 4. Please note the toilet and the wash
basin in the short hood !

<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW1.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW1.jpg</A>
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW2.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW2.jpg</A>
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW3.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW3.jpg</A>
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW4.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW4.jpg</A>
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW5.jpg">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/mlw/MLW5.jpg</A>


Apurva Bahadur

From: Peter Mosse <>

Subject: Trains in Indian Movies / NY Metro Area

Date: 28 Oct 1998 09:36:06 -0500


About a year ago there was an extensive thread about trains in Indian
movies and it was clear that IR is featured quite often.

I have just noticed that one of the cinemas in midtown Manhattan, the
Manhattan theater on 59th Street between 2nd and 3rd Avenues, has
rebranded
itself as 'The Home of Indian Movies' and now shows exclusively Indian
films. But presumably because it appeals to a narrowly-defined
audience,
the cinema seems to have dropped out of the cinema listings in
general-interest newspapers and magazines and also seems only to be open
in
the evenings.

This info may be of interest to listmembers in the NY Metro area. If
anyone has access to the cinema's forthcoming programs and can identify
films with good railway content, it would be interesting to know that.
Maybe such a film could also provide a good opportunity for some of us
to
meet ...

Peter Mosse

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