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From: Larry Russell <lrussell@direct.email

Subject: WDM7

Date: 20 Feb 1998 19:27:00 -0500


Hi Guys, Anyone know if the WDM7 class exists? I have a report of 15
engines built by DLW in 1987-88 as this class, but the running numbers
conflict with the new order of WDG4 GM's that are being built. Any
sightings? Supposed to be on SR
thanks for any info you may have,
Larry.

From: Sridhar Shankar <msshanka@gsbmba2.email

Subject: Re: WDM7

Date: 22 Feb 1998 18:46:00 -0500


Larry,

I saw a couple of WDM7s based in Erode (SR) a couple of years back.
They look very much like a WDM2, however have a lower horsepower prime
mover -12 cyl version of 251B. A picture of WDM7 in Jane's has a 11004
road number, indicating a 11000 series numbering.

Any news about the new GMs to be built at DLW?

-Sridhar
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University of Chicago 5345 S.Harper Apt. 205
Chicago, IL 60637 Chicago, IL 60615
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Larry Russell wrote:

> Hi Guys, Anyone know if the WDM7 class exists? I have a report of 15
> engines built by DLW in 1987-88 as this class, but the running numbers
> conflict with the new order of WDG4 GM's that are being built. Any
> sightings? Supposed to be on SR
> thanks for any info you may have,
> Larry.
>
>
>

From: Siddhartha Joshi <siddha@phy.email

Subject: Re: The 2627 Karnataka Express

Date: 25 Feb 1998 03:46:00 -0500


Hello All,

You are absolutely right about the WDM2 sounds. They sound great
solo, but they are sublime double-headed. The two diesels revving
asymmetrically, slightly out of time with each other. I recorded the
sounds on my Jan trip to Ratlam Diesel loco shed.

Siddhartha.

> Sundar,
>
> >Its a heavenly sight to watch the diesels pull up
> >and hum up a rhythm on a sharp curve from the running train!! There is
> >no alternative to these Alco beauties that DLW makes!
>
> There is no better sight on IR than watching a pair of WDM2s haul a full
> rake. Actually, the WDM2s sound the best standing still - giving a new
> meaning to the term ticking over. New diesels just don't have the
> same charm. It is a real pity that only a few such trains remain.
> Another such sight (when Brindavan was double headed) was the sharp right
> hander past Jolarpet (towards BLR).
>
> Its unfortunate that DLW will switch to EMD Diesels in the future.
>
> -Sridhar
>
> ****************************************************************
> Graduate School of Business Sridhar Shankar
> University of Chicago 5345 S.Harper Apt. 205
> Chicago, IL 60637 Chicago, IL 60615
> USA (773) 752 1131
> *****************************************************************
>

From: sank <sank@telco.email

Subject: Re: The 2627 Karnataka Express

Date: 25 Feb 1998 18:20:00 -0500


> .............WDM2 sounds.........

Amazing sounds these beasts have !! I have never hadthe good fortune to hear a
WDM2 double lash-up in
duet, though (now if someone could put up a .wav or
something on a web page).

I must also mention my liking for the sound of a
YDM4 type diesel, somewhat raspier and higher-pitched.


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From: Siddhartha Joshi <siddha@phy.email

Subject: Re: The 2627 Karnataka Express

Date: 26 Feb 1998 00:23:00 -0500


The .wav file may be on in a while.
Siddhartha

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 sank@telco.email wrote:

> > .............WDM2 sounds.........
>
> Amazing sounds these beasts have !! I have never hadthe good fortune to hear a
> WDM2 double lash-up in
> duet, though (now if someone could put up a .wav or
> something on a web page).
>
> I must also mention my liking for the sound of a
> YDM4 type diesel, somewhat raspier and higher-pitched.
>
>
> --
> Jayant S : IDStudio : TTIL : ERC : TELCO
> Pimpri : Pune : 411 018 : INDIA
> tel - 91(212)774261 exn 2534
> --
>
>
>

From: Sankar <shankie@emirates.email

Subject: THE HISSSS OF STEAM!

Date: 27 Feb 1998 07:27:00 -0500


Hello friends,
The irfca seems to be experiencing a lull over the past week, with very little
mail under circulation. Where IS everybody?

Anyway,I've just got hold of a copy of the latest edition (Nov. 1997) of Lonely
Planet's INDIA-A TRAVEL SURVIVAL KIT. The book has the following to say about
steam in India: (I give the gist only):

" If you imagined that rail travel in India meant riding---behind a puffing
steam engine, you'll be disappointed-------There are now less than 200 steam
locos left in service---there is a massive bg electrification program going on,
which along with the broad gauging of most of the mg has allowed the cascading
of diesels to the lesser routes.
---As far as peninsular India is concerned,steam is extinct, with the exception
of the Sunday service on the Ooty line----etc.

BROAD GAUGE:
Bg steam is dead,apart from a couple of preserved locos--the last working
steam locos were---WL class based at Ferozepore in Punjab---in 1995.Their
life had been exended by over an year (in 1995) due to the woeful
unreliability of
the replacement d.m.us.----etc.

METRE GAUGE:
-ASSAM: Quite a bit of steam working remains east of Guwahati (Gauhati), though
with the conversion of the main line to bg well under way, its not clear how
much into 1997 this will continue.
-BIHAR: The lines between the Ganges and Nepal have always been the last major
concentrations of steam working---including a few expresses.With massive conver-
sion to bg---only the lines from Saharsa to Forbesganj and Mansi seem likely to
be steam worked in 1997.
-RAJASTHAN,GUJARAT & MADHYA PRADESH: The WR is surprisingly providing the last
concentration of steam working in an area bounded
byChittorgarh,Rajkot,Ahmedabad and Mhow,with Ahmedabad being the last major
Indian city to see steam working,
incl. steam hauled expresses--train # 9643-44 to Udaipur.---it is reported that
the railway unions have so far resisted dieselization in order to protect jobs--
but despite the major overhauls still carried out on (steam) locos,failure is
common and timekeeping appalling---random diesel substitution for steam failure
is already quite common---.However,the scenic Chittorgarh-Udaipur-Ahmedabad line
does give the casual tourist the best chance of getting a ride behing steam----
the daytime passenger trains (no.85/86) run at a most relaxing pace----etc.

NARROW GAUGE:
-PULGAON TO ARVI: This 762 mm gauge line---is operated by little ZP Pacifics.It
(the line)is operated by CR but apparently may be owned by a British
company--it is not known whether there are any immediate plans for
dieselization.
-BANKURA TO RAINAGAR: Again 762 mm,--running 97 km into rural
W.Bengal----the engines are again miniature Pacifics---CC class built in
Glasgow around 1906.
Again the line is not owned by the Indian Railways (?), and although there may
be long term plans to bg it,steam seems likely to continue for some time yet.
-NEW JALPAIGURI TO DARJEELING: Only 610 mm gauge line with blue engines---a must
for railway enthusiasts---Apparently it is to stay steam worked until at least
the end of the century.

Best regards.

Shankar.

From: Sankar <shankie@emirates.email

Subject: Re: Indian locomotives

Date: 27 Feb 1998 22:51:00 -0500


Hello David,
Nice to hear from you again. I have the following info in my book on steam
locomtives: (Locomotives in Steam, pub:1981 by the Rail Transport Museum
(now NRM) Delhi):

CLASS/# YEAR BUILT BUILDER WHEEL ARR. TENDER SERVICE
ZP 2 - 6 1955 Nippon Sharyo,Japan 4-6-2 6-wheel CR, SE

F 712-724 1926-50 Nasmyth Wilson,U.K. 2-8-2 Bogie tender CR

ZD 548-553 1957 Nippon Sharyo,Japan 2-8-2 6-wheel CR

ZE 42-47, 1955 Kawasaki Rolling Stock2-8-2 6-wheel
CR,SE 52-55 Japan

NOTES:
-Most of these engines, as I understand it, will be withdrawn by now,hence the
'service' column may not be too relevant in today's circumstances.
-I'm sorry I do not have the year-wise break down of the F engines.All were
built by Nasmyth Wilson, though.
Although you have not specifically referred to the engine,it might be of
interest to you to know that F 724 is preserved outside Poona (Pune) station
with the following caption:' BUILT IN 1921 AT M/S NESMYTH (sic) & CO MANCHESTER
ENGLAND.THIS LOCO WAS PUT IN SERVICE IN KURDUWADI-PANDHARPUR SECTION IN 1923.IT
WAS SUBSEQUENTLY TRANSFERRED TO MURTIJAPUR-YAVATMAL SECTION IN 1983.AFTER 73
YEARS OF SUCCESSFUL SERVICE THIS ENGINE WAS WITHDRAWN ON 13 APRIL 1994 WHILE IN
FULL STEAM DUE TO INCREASING PACE OF DIESELIZATION.THE LOCO WAS RESTED IN
IRICEN (Indian Railways Institute of Civil engineering) PUNE ON 23 DEC.1994.'

The 'built in 1921 and put on service in 1923' bit does not tally with what the
book says (which might be more accurate), but then, thats the way info on locos
is in India: I guess its OK as long as its not way off the mark.Accuracy upto 5
years: is it good enough?

Best regards.

Shankar.





At 08:48 PM 2/26/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Shankar, Can you look these up for me in your books? These are all narrow
>gauge steam locomotives. The following are number followed by type. Do you
>know the wheel pattern, manufacturer, tank or tender type locomotive, of
>any of these;
>2 ZP, 3 ZP, 5 ZP, 717 F, 720 F, 716 F, 722 F, 548 ZD, 47 ZE, 50 ZE, 723 F,
>55 ZE
>
>
>
>

From: Vijay.Balasubramanian <Vijay.Balasubramanian@xula.email

Subject: More images!

Date: 27 Feb 1998 12:49:00 -0500


Hi Folks,

Check out my next batch of photos. at

<A HREF="http://www.xula.edu/~vbalasub/train4.html">http://www.xula.edu/~vbalasub/train4.html</A>

Some comments:
-The Qutub Narmada Exp. runs between Jabalpur and Nizamuddin and is now
called the Mahakoshal Exp.

- By Dec. '89, the entire Delhi-Madras line had been electrified except
for the small stretch between Itarsi and Nagpur which still offered
a chance to spot double-headed expresses. Some portions of
this section had already acquired traction structures. So, all
North-South trains would change locos. at Itarsi. Trains such
as the TN, GT and Kerala Exp. which bypass Kazipet, would change
back to WAM4s at Nagpur itself. Other Southbound trains (going via
Kazipet) would make this change at Kazipet. The only exception
was the AP exp. which was diesel hauled all the way from Itarsi to
Secunderabad since Kazipet-Secunderabad was not electrified at
that time.

- The WAM1, WAM2, WAG2 and WAG4 locos. appearing in various photos.
are all Bo-Bo type - 4 axles, 8 wheels. I have never sighted the
WAM1/2/3 loco. in any other section besides
Howrah-Dhanbad-Mughalsarai-Allahabad. The slant-faced WAM2/3 are
Mitsubishi locos. and were a common sight in the Grand Chord section,
hauling express/mail trains, before the WAM4 and WAP1 took over.
The alignment of pantographs in the WAM3 is similar to the YAM1
(they face inwards) which sets it apart from the WAM2.
The WAP2 is a "converted" WAM2/3 loco. Does this mean that the bogies
have got upgraded?

- The Rajdhani overtake of our Himgiri Exp. (between Barddhaman and
Howrah) happened only because the former was running late by more than
an hour. The shot was risky since I had to position myself next to
the Up. main line directly on the path of any Westbound train.

Regards,
Vijay

From: H.Hubbert <hubbert@cww.email

Subject: Re: THE HISSSS OF STEAM!

Date: 27 Feb 1998 19:09:00 -0500


Hello,

I just want to keep you up with the latest status of steam-locos running on the
meter-gauge. By early 1999 it is targeted to end steam on WR on the last of all
divisions - exept SR with the Nilagiri-Queen. But the future oof the steam-traction or
the entire railway is doubtfull. The X-class locos getting to their retirement edge,
with the youngest now since 1956. New SLM steam-locos will be not imported as expensive.
But new Diesel-rack-locos would be as that expensive as well.

Sankar wrote:
>
> Hello friends,
> The irfca seems to be experiencing a lull over the past week, with very little
> mail under circulation. Where IS everybody?
>
> Anyway,I've just got hold of a copy of the latest edition (Nov. 1997) of Lonely
> Planet's INDIA-A TRAVEL SURVIVAL KIT. The book has the following to say about
> steam in India: (I give the gist only):
>
> " If you imagined ......
>
> METRE GAUGE:
> -ASSAM:

Finished March 1997

> -BIHAR:

Finished August 1998

> -RAJASTHAN,

Udaipur: Finished August 1998

GUJARAT

Jetalsar and Wankaner last loco-sheds with steam:

Wankaner : 9 YG, 1 YP in running service, repair

Jetalsar : 6 YP in running service, repair


& MADHYA PRADESH: The WR is surprisingly providing the last
> concentration of steam working in an area bounded
> by Chittorgarh


Chittorgarh-Ratlam Finished Steam 26. January 1998!
Sources: "Special Tours of India, Ashok Sharma"
"World Steam, March 1998"

After complaints from passengers to WR in Mumbai, the HQ had to advicethe shed to
elimenate steam within 24 hours!
Last line working is 89/90 on the Ratlam - Mhow-section
and the banker from Kalakun to Patalpani.

A new Diesel-loco-shed will openend to on the 15th of March 1998 to quit steam.
Little luck, that the banker will run some time beyond.

Ahmedabad ,with Ahmedabad being the last major
> Indian city to see steam working,

Ahmedabad Finished Steam November 1998


> NARROW GAUGE:
> -PULGAON TO ARVI:

Finished Steam November March 1997

> -BANKURA TO RAINAGAR:


Finished Steam about 1995

> Again the line is not owned by the Indian Railways (?), and although there may
> be long term plans to bg it,steam seems likely to continue for some time yet.
> -NEW JALPAIGURI TO DARJEELING: Only 610 mm gauge line with blue engines---a must
> for railway enthusiasts---Apparently it is to stay steam worked until at least
> the end of the century.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Shankar.

From: Dipak Kotecha <rbrand@ad1.email

Subject: Indian Railways

Date: 02 Mar 1998 00:55:00 -0500


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From: Sundar Krishnamurthy <coolsundar@hotmail.email

Subject: New Train Pix!!

Date: 02 Mar 1998 09:49:00 -0500


Hello Folks...

After Vijay's brilliant effort -
<A HREF="http://www.xula.edu/~vbalasub/train4.html">http://www.xula.edu/~vbalasub/train4.html</A>, here's a mammoth set of
my Indian Railway Pix - recent and 83 of 'em; at

<A HREF="http://members.xoom.com/sundar/itg">http://members.xoom.com/sundar/itg</A>

I have reclassified & grouped the older ones in this new set. In
addition to an emphasis on AC electrics and WAPs, you can find a WCAM2
close up and a WCAM3 long shot. A vast majority of these pix are taken
in Chennai & whereabouts, partly because of my prolonged stay here...

I have two legal posers to start off this week ::

#1 If the passenger pulls the chain in a running train, and is unable to
furnish sufficient reasins to justify, he can be fined/imprisoned.
But what if a) the chain gets pulled in a stationary train and the guard
is alerted and b) the train is deserted & empty in a yard/station and
the chain is pulled ?????

#2 It is legally punishable to travel in a First Class suburban coach
with a Second Class Pass. But, if the trains are too heavily crowded
(the peak hour Kalyan Double Fast types) and a second class ticket/pass
holder climbs onto a first class window outside the train (its a normal
practice to travel on windows for some adventure-loving,
life-hating junta) then is the person guilty if caught? Or there's no
locus standi since he was *OUTSIDE* the coach?? Well, most First Class
windows have a steel mesh but many dont!

Another interesting little observation - in fact, there existed a fifth
line between Thane and Ghatkopar. While travelling from Thane to Mumbai,
if you get a seat on the right, watch out for a buried and
dead line at the far end accompany the other four ones, that starts just
after Thane station. It reappears at regular intervals - on small
bridges etc. and becomes prominent as a proper line at Kanjurmarg
station. Between Vikhroli & Kanjurmarg, there are two or three box goods
wagons on this mystery line in a ramshacle condition. It gets buried
under platform #1 at Mulund, Bhandup and Vikhroli. It disappears just
before Ghatkopar ... does it have a history behind it??? Seems pretty
eerie ...

The motive power on KR will largely comprise WDM2's from Kalyan at the
Roha end and those from Ernakulam and Erode at the Mangalore End.
KR has not yet leased any locos from IR, and the drivers would remain
under IR payroll. However, this may change very soon.

Vijay - Sorry man, I missed the Vidharba in Mumbai. Will make an attempt
once more in mid-March. Also, SR stock has become a sorry plight with
stupid politicians canvassing junta votes by pasting horrid fluorescent
posters across the livery. God save the country .... (Psst. Just read on
the Web that former "Shatabdi" railway minister Suresh Kalmadi is
trailing at the hustings!!!)

Sundar Krishnamurthy
<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~sundari">http://members.tripod.com/~sundari</A>



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From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <sncf@godrejnet.email

Subject: Re: New Train Pix!!

Date: 03 Mar 1998 17:00:00 -0500


Hi Sundar,

On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Sundar Krishnamurthy wrote:

> Another interesting little observation - in fact, there existed a fifth
> line between Thane and Ghatkopar. While travelling from Thane to Mumbai,
> if you get a seat on the right, watch out for a buried and
> dead line at the far end accompany the other four ones, that starts just
> after Thane station. It reappears at regular intervals - on small
> bridges etc. and becomes prominent as a proper line at Kanjurmarg
> station. Between Vikhroli & Kanjurmarg, there are two or three box goods
> wagons on this mystery line in a ramshacle condition. It gets buried
> under platform #1 at Mulund, Bhandup and Vikhroli. It disappears just
> before Ghatkopar ... does it have a history behind it??? Seems pretty
> eerie ...
>

The mysterious fifth line that you mentioned is not at all eerie and in
ramshackle condition. This line happens to be shunting lines for factory
sidings. We at Godrej regulary use this line to ship our finished products
by rail as well to receive raw material (Steel Coils/Plates/chemicals
etc). Since this line happens to provide access to factories there is no
need for it be continuous hence it keeps on disappearing at stations.

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Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrejnet.email
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From: Larry Russell <lrussell@direct.email

Subject:

Date: 02 Mar 1998 16:24:00 -0500


I've been able to determine the sheds that are marked on many IR locos.
There are some, however that I can't find. Can anyone provide a list of
the main sheds for IR (this is probably a very large order!!!) At the very
least, where is Vatva on WR? Many locos only have the initials on them LKO
I presume is Lucknow, but there are others I can't figure out. Depending
on the respone I get, I may post some other ones.
Larry

From: sank <sank@telco.email

Subject: Re:

Date: 03 Mar 1998 18:45:00 -0500


> At the very least, where is Vatva on WR?

At least this one I know: Vatva is a few kilometers south ofthe main station
in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. It has facilities for
BG Diesels.

I do not know if anyone will have a full list, but everyone on
this list could pool in shed names they know of, and mail them
to you: think that would help ?


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From: sank <sank@telco.email

Subject: Re: New Train Pix!!

Date: 03 Mar 1998 18:49:00 -0500


Sundar Krishnamurthy wrote:

> here's a mammoth set of
> my Indian Railway Pix - recent and 83 of 'em.....

Just been browsing happily through them.......Great work, Sundar !!!

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From: poras p.saklatwalla <pps@godrejnet.email

Subject: Re:

Date: 03 Mar 1998 23:24:00 -0500


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 sank@telco.email wrote:

> > At the very least, where is Vatva on WR?
>
> At least this one I know: Vatva is a few kilometers south ofthe main station
> in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. It has facilities for
> BG Diesels.
>
> I do not know if anyone will have a full list, but everyone on
> this list could pool in shed names they know of, and mail them
> to you: think that would help ?
>
>
> --
> Jayant S : IDStudio : TTIL : ERC : TELCO
> Pimpri : Pune : 411 018 : INDIA
> tel - 91(212)774261 exn 2534
> --
>
>
>

P.P.SAKLATWALLA.
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You wanted to know the name of some sheds in India,
here are a few of them.

Erode - in Kerala for diesel
Vatwa - In Gujrat near Ahmedabad
Tughlakabad - Near New Delhi which caters to diesel, and electric locos.
Ghaziabad - near Delhi for Electric loco
Bandra - Near Mumbai; It is BAMY - bandra marshaaling yard
KRISHNARAJAPURAM - JUST OFF SITE BANGALORE STATION IS A BIG ONE
GOOTY - ON SOUTH CENTRAL RAILWAY MUMBAI MADRAS ROUTE
I THINK RATLAM IS ALSO HAVING ONE. THE DOUBLE HEADED RAJDHANI OF YORE WAS
RATLAM LOCOS.
VIJAYWADA AND KAZIPET ALSO HAS ONE
(PLEASE CHECK ON KAZIPET)
ARAKKONAM HAS ELECTRIC LOCO SHED.
KATNI IN MADHYA PRADESH THIS IS A DIESEL ONE AND SOMETIMES KATNII LOCOS
CAN BE SPOTTED IN MUMBAI
OF COURSE WE CANNOT FORGET PUNE, BHUSAWAL, ITARSI.
PLEASE CONFIRM WHETHER THE INFO I HAVE GIVEN IS RIGHT. ALSO I HAVE GIVEN
ONLY BROAD GUAGE LOCO SHEDS.
LUCKNOW ALSO HAS ONE (LKO) IS INDEED LUCKNOW.
CHECK ON VARANASI. OF COURSE HAVE FORGOTTEN GOD KNOWS HOW MUGHALSARAI
AND PATNA.
PLEASE FOLKS LET ME KNOW IF THERE ARE IN ADDITION TO ABOVE ANY OTHER LOCO
SHEDS IN THE COUNTRY.

From: Sankar <shankie@emirates.email

Subject: Re: Loco sheds

Date: 03 Mar 1998 23:21:00 -0500


Hello Larry,
A complete list could be well nigh impossible to fit into a 500 page book,
leave alone an e-mail. Do you have anything specific sheds in mind?

Here are a few I could think of. Some of them are merely station codes,like
PA for instance is Poona (Pune), but all Pune shed locomotives, esp. diesel,
bear a navy blue disc shaped logo up front with the full name "Pune" painted
thereon, in the local language Marathi.
Likewise, Itarsi based engines also have the "Itarsi" displayed in full.

ADI: Ahmedabad BSB: Bilaspur BSL: Bhusaval BZA: Vijayawada (based on the
AJJ: Arakonam (Madras) BEGUMPET: Hyderabad city's old name Bezwada)
ASN: Asansol
BPL: Bhopal CHTS:Cochin Harbor Terminus DD: Daund
GOLDEN ROCK: Tiruchirapalli (Trichy) GTL: Guntakal GKP: Gorakhpur
GZB: Ghaziabad GWL: Gwalior HWH: Howrah (Calcutta) JAT: Jammu Tawi (Jammu)
JHS: Jhansi KJM: Krishnarajapuram (Bangalore) KYN: Kalyan (Bombay)
KOP: Kolhapur LNL: Lonavla LKO: Lucknow MAQ: Mangalore MMR: Manmad
MUGHAL SARAI:(Displayed fully): Mughal Sarai MDU: Madurai
NDLS: New Delhi NGP: Nagpur NZM: Hazrat Nizamuddin (Delhi) PA: Poona (Pune)
SBC: Bangalore City SUR: Sholapur SHAKUR BASTI:(Displayed fully) Delhi
TKD: Tuqlakhabad (Delhi) TVC: Trivandrum Central

Thats all I can think of for the moment. Hope to have been of help. e-mail me
if there is anything elese, which might not have struck me.

BASIN BRIDGE is Madras, by the way,

Best regards.

Shankar.




t 07:24 PM 3/2/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I've been able to determine the sheds that are marked on many IR locos.
>There are some, however that I can't find. Can anyone provide a list of
>the main sheds for IR (this is probably a very large order!!!) At the very
>least, where is Vatva on WR? Many locos only have the initials on them LKO
>I presume is Lucknow, but there are others I can't figure out. Depending
>on the respone I get, I may post some other ones.
>Larry
>
>
>
>

From: BHARAT VOHRA <bharat@giasbma.email

Subject: Re: your mail

Date: 03 Mar 1998 08:57:00 -0500


Dear Larry,
Vatwa is WR's Diesel loco shed at Ahmedabad, just outside the city.
It homes WDM2's, WDS6's and WDS4's and has a holding of about 110 odd
locos!

More info to follow soon,
Regards,
Bharat Vohra

On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Larry Russell wrote:

> I've been able to determine the sheds that are marked on many IR locos.
> There are some, however that I can't find. Can anyone provide a list of
> the main sheds for IR (this is probably a very large order!!!) At the very
> least, where is Vatva on WR? Many locos only have the initials on them LKO
> I presume is Lucknow, but there are others I can't figure out. Depending
> on the respone I get, I may post some other ones.
> Larry
>
>
>

From: Auroprem Kandaswami <kandaswa@apple.email

Subject: Loco Sheds

Date: 03 Mar 1998 05:35:00 -0500


Here are some of the BG Diesel Loco Sheds in the South :

Gooty - SCR
Krishnarajapuram (KJM) - SR
Erode (ED) - SR
Ernakulam (ERS) - SR

Ponmalai (Golden Rock, near Tiruchirapalli) for M.G. Diesel locos


Some of the Electric Loco Sheds in South :

Arakkonam (AJJ) - SR
Vijayawada (BZA) - SCR


- Auro


>At least this one I know: Vatva is a few kilometers south ofthe main station
>in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. It has facilities for
>BG Diesels.
>
>I do not know if anyone will have a full list, but everyone on
>this list could pool in shed names they know of, and mail them
>to you: think that would help ?
>
>
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From: Pushkar Apte <apte@spdc.email

Subject: Impact of KR on Mumbai-South route

Date: 03 Mar 1998 12:13:00 -0500


Besides all the advantages to the Konkan region, KR should also bring
some relief to the sad Mumbai-Chennai/Bangalore/Secunderabad route.
Netravati Exp and the Gujarat-Kerala trains will avoid this route -
lessening its load somewhat.
Further, some consolidation can be expected between the
Nagercoil/Trivandrum & Kanyakumari Exps from Mumbai - may be reducing
one more train (net) from the route. The Rajkot-SC Exp and the
Ahmadabad-Bangalore Exp can also be expected to consolidate.

It is too much to hope for - but this represents a great opportunity to
optimize and speed up this route by using the reduced load and by
re-adjusting timings to minimize single-line crossings. The biggest
single-line stretch is Daund-Gulbarga (or Daund-Gangapur Rd., to be
precise) so the focus must be on minimizing crossings here. A (fonder)
hope is that such re-optimization may bump one or more of
Dadar-Chennai/Hussainsagar/Udyan Exps over the magic 55 kmph mark and
make it a superfast!

One could also think of a Rajdhani-type train between
Mumbai-Bangalore/Chennai. For example the Delhi-Bangalore Rajdhani does
the Wadi-Bangalore run in ~8.5 hrs, and by sticking in times of the Pune
Shatabdi and the old SF Minar Exp, one can compute a Mumbai-Wadi time of
~9.5 hrs - giving a Mumbai-Bangalore run-time of only 18 hours, with
three halts - Pune, Solapur, Guntakal !

Regards,
Pushkar
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